LET EM GROW Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hey guys, im inquiring for a friend, her father left her a gun that even local gun shops do not know anything about .. so i was hoping someone here could maybe help. She is looking to just get info about it, the make, possible model, era, you name it.. the only thing the shops and local museum could tell her is, that it seems to be a revolving shotgun from Belgium back in the 1800's... maybe If anyone has some knowledge of the gun or a place to inquire about it, we would greatly appreciate that... Thanks in advance 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpkot Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Can't help you there, but what a cool looking firearm. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Very nice firearm!I have no clue but just a guess it is either a 30 or 45 cal.made in Sweden/Germany 1896 this is only a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter49 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Cool firearm! Maybe Turnbull restoration in Bloomfield would know about it or the NRA may have info. on it send pics. to them. What gage shotgun do they think it might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Looks like a Colt copy, made in Belgium "In 1855, with his Model 1855 patent, Colt introduced a spur-trigger revolver that featured a fully enclosed cylinder. These handguns were officially named Sidehammer revolvers, but they also were known as "Root" revolvers after Elisha K. Root, who at that time was employed as Colt's factory superintendent and Chief Engineer. Based on the Sidehammer design, Colt produced the Sidehammer Model 1855 rifles and carbines for military and sporting use, as well as a revolving shotgun. In failing health, Colt expanded his factory on the eve of the Civil War, and began production of a new, lightweight .44 caliber Army revolver, followed a year later by a .36 caliber Navy version.[2] Dragoon carbines (other than the Belgian copies and experimental carbines) are rare. There are not many known examples, and it is most likely they were only available as a special order." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_revolving_rifle P.S. I am no expert, I just googled around a bit. The engraving and lack of further stamps tell me it is a copy/custom order gun. Also the crest is Belgian for sure, according to one site I saw, 1924 on that crest was used. Edited January 29, 2016 by Doewhacker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I googled Belgium revolving shotgun and came up with many pics some with links to sites for these guns. My battery is dying and I gotta walk the dog but that seems like a good place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET EM GROW Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Cool firearm! Maybe Turnbull restoration in Bloomfield would know about it or the NRA may have info. on it send pics. to them. What gage shotgun do they think it might be? she went there, and all they could tell her is possibly Belguim and a revolving shotgun maybe.. if i ever get some time i told her id do some research to help her get information... just have zero free time besides break time at work lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I can't find any "hammerless" designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 86 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 If your friend has any interest in selling. Feel free to pass on $1,000 offer. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It's entirely possible that it's a 'home-built' piece. A one-off product with no traceable provenance. I've owned a few of them over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It's entirely possible that it's a 'home-built' piece. A one-off product with no traceable provenance. I've owned a few of them over the years. One-off prototype? Quite probable. "Home built"? Not unless the guy had one hell of a machine shop in his shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 If your friend has any interest in selling. Feel free to pass on $1,000 offer. Thanks Big help you are............douche bag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 That gun is a work of art. You need that dude Sean that the pawn stars always call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 86 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Really lawdwaz? Have some self dignity, don't sit behind a computer playing the name calling game ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Really lawdwaz? Have some self dignity, don't sit behind a computer playing the name calling game ! You have a fellow asking for some help for a friend and instead of offering some help in identifying the piece, you toss out a pretty big number (for some, but not all) to snatch it up from an uneducated individual. The OP didn't ask for offers nor did he say a damned word about selling the gun, just looking for information. So now it's painfully obvious that you know something about the pictured firearm but aren't going to help out. Classy move............... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Interesting piece. How long is the barrel? Even if it doesn't work, would look cool on a wall somewhere Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 You have a fellow asking for some help for a friend and instead of offering some help in identifying the piece, you toss out a pretty big number (for some, but not all) to snatch it up from an uneducated individual. The OP didn't ask for offers nor did he say a damned word about selling the gun, just looking for information. So now it's painfully obvious that you know something about the pictured firearm but aren't going to help out. Classy move............... HERE! HERE! You Can't Beat My Meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 86 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Lawdwaz- you should really not get so worked up about other people's post's that don't affect you. No body knows about that gun, sure would be proud to own s piece of History though. Got a problem, message me man to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Fight fight fight. 230pm Monday at the buses Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Fight fight fight. 230pm Monday at the buses Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk oh yeah! a fight via PM as opposed to an open forum is usually very brutal, usually only one walks away with all his teeth.......hahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 86 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Instigators^ lol Good job "Mr.Helpful" , your rude remark is taking people right off the main subject. But no, my meeting spot would be at the flag pole. Teach respect that you learn when serving and protecting this great country. To respect your fellow man and respect the beautiful Red, White and Blue flying above us ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlammerhirt Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Click....back to the gun tricky Ricky Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hahaha I can still recall some special ones I witnessed. Fight fight fight. 230pm Monday at the buses Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 86 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Thank you mlammerhit ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Hahaha I can still recall some special ones I witnessed. I still recall you kicking my ass at Fulmar before practice (everyday) lolSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited January 30, 2016 by Biz-R-OWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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