DirtTime Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Full exclusion what . You a hunter Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Pretty sure similar bills were introduced in 2015. Believe they got pinned to the budget bill, stripped out and then forgotten. Like what's introduced? Lets push our legislators to get it passed. Take 15min, find your legislator's web page & email your opinion to them! We all know who'll be lobbying against it! Edited March 17, 2016 by nyslowhand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_NY Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Be sure you call,write and email your Senator and ask them to support Bill # S7005 Just did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Why do you care Belo? You don't live in NY, do you still hunt here? The answer to that I've never missed a NY deer season, and maybe I, moving back? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince1 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 im a bit iffy on full inclusion and the setback part. but i will make call my rep as I am all for removing the 200 max poundage limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince1 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Spoke to a guy in my reps office and he said he would recomend it be supported should it make it out of committee. Think he said it was in the enviromental committee and he wasnt part of that committee. Edited March 18, 2016 by Vince1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 sorry, been waiting to use that one and couldn't resist. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The answer to that I've never missed a NY deer season, and maybe I, moving back? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Nice. As for moving back? Why? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Nice. As for moving back? Why? LOL Family and career opportunity. Can't give too much on the later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It sounds like a sensible change, especially the "full inclusion" part. Allowing the crossbow to be used during the early part of archery season would be very effective at getting the doe population under control in some of the overpopulated zones where the DEC has been struggling. Eliminating the need to draw, with the deer in close, eases the task of killing a doe from a group where several sets of eyes need to be fooled. That gives the x-bow a significant advantage over a conventional bow. The silent report also gives the crossbow an advantage over a muzzleloader at that time. Requiring the archery course to use one makes a lot of sense, since the crossbow kills the same way as a regular bow (by cutting), not by shock like a gun. The full inclusion part will likely put more hunters in the woods, especially the young, old, women and physically handicapped. It really isn't cool to discriminate against these groups as the current regulations do. Hunter numbers in NY have been falling off for a while now and this should help stem the tide of that a bit. Wanting the woods all for yourself is shortsighted when it comes to the future of our sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear2 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 You said it right full use . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It sounds like a sensible change, especially the "full inclusion" part. Allowing the crossbow to be used during the early part of archery season would be very effective at getting the doe population under control in some of the overpopulated zones where the DEC has been struggling. Eliminating the need to draw, with the deer in close, eases the task of killing a doe from a group where several sets of eyes need to be fooled. That gives the x-bow a significant advantage over a conventional bow. The silent report also gives the crossbow an advantage over a muzzleloader at that time. Requiring the archery course to use one makes a lot of sense, since the crossbow kills the same way as a regular bow (by cutting), not by shock like a gun. The full inclusion part will likely put more hunters in the woods, especially the young, old, women and physically handicapped. It really isn't cool to discriminate against these groups as the current regulations do. Hunter numbers in NY have been falling off for a while now and this should help stem the tide of that a bit. Wanting the woods all for yourself is shortsighted when it comes to the future of our sport. For so long I was told there was no advantage... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinlodge Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Assembly Bill A9623 has been introduced by Assemblywoman Gunther. We now have same as bills in both houses with the Gallivan Bill S7005. We need everyone to make phone calls to your respective legislators TODAY. Write a letter,send an email and call your Assembly member and Senator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Assembly Bill A9623 has been introduced by Assemblywoman Gunther. We now have same as bills in both houses with the Gallivan Bill S7005. We need everyone to make phone calls to your respective legislators TODAY. Write a letter,send an email and call your Assembly member and Senator Yea baby yea! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I sent an e-mail to my Senator in support of this bill last night. Hopefully we will find out in April, that it has passed, otherwise I will have to start working out with my old compound again. That will also give me plenty of time to pick out a new, higher-performance x-bow for my own use, and enable me to pass on my entry-level "two week special" to my daughter who will be "legal" if the bill passes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear2 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Wow sweet! how to email or respond to this bill thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I sent a follow up email to my Senator today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 For the Senate bill, I just did an internet search of the NY state bill number and a link to the Senate website came up. A quick site registration was required and it all took about 5 minutes. I imagine the same thing would work for the assembly bill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Per the qdma meeting the DEC is in favor with you. I don't agree with the crossbow deal (personally) but am posting that we as a group need have all things hunting in one pot. I find it so odd the DEC and legislators are different entities on the same topics with the hunter/game management group always being the low man. Then again maybe I should be thankful for that. Also wondering if this is so desired; what would you be willing to give for it to take place? As a group we all get railroaded with new regs without review and discussion. The common goal is to increase license sales but unlike some of the candidate speak...nothing is free. Would you still push for this if it was antlerless only, 5 points per side, etc? Lots of wish listers out there and hoping you can look at it from a different angle on occasion Edited March 25, 2016 by gjs4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Why does anything need to be "given"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinlodge Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Wow sweet! how to email or respond to this bill thanks Who Are My Legislators? Not sure who your Assemblymember or Senator are? Follow these links, insert your 911 physical address to find out and get their contact information. Assembly Member Search by Address Senator Search by Address Hint: If you have an address that includes a State or County Route Number, try substituting Hwy for Route. Example: instead of 1234 State Route 234, try 1234 Hwy 234 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 What would I be willing to give, to be able to hunt throughout archery season with a crossbow, and for my daughters to also be able to participate in the next several years rather than waiting until they are 16 ? Certainly some cash, probably in the neighborhood of $1000, for new equipment alone. We would likely be able to harvest enough deer, specifically antlerless ones, in the southern zones where the DEC has been struggling to get populations in check, to give some venison to the "feed the hungry" programs. I would also give some more of my time and money hunting earlier up in the cash-strapped northern zone. I see more money poured into the state economy, more hungry folks fed healthy food, and improved control over the deer population. What I don't see is a down side. It is awesome to see the fast accelerating approach of "full inclusion", increased youth hunting, and classification of a crossbow as archery equipment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I would give all the guys who think they are not bows a special finger when passed.....it shoots a arrow on a string....shouldn't be a issue Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I would give all the guys who think they are not bows a special finger when passed.....it shoots a arrow on a string....shouldn't be a issue Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Wahhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I would give all the guys who think they are not bows a special finger when passed.....it shoots a arrow on a string....shouldn't be a issue Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk And it's because of you we can't have nice things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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