Repercussions of "passing" deer.

[wolc123]

We often hear about how folks have  "passed" on smaller deer, so that they might get a chance to use their tag on a "more mature" one, or one with larger antlers.  I have to admit that I have done that myself.  The next time you get an opportunity to do that, think about this a little bit:  Today I learned that the girlfriend of one of our girl's classmates was killed last weekend when their ATV struck a deer.  She was a freshman in high school.   That is the second time that I know of, where a deer has caused the death of a person within 10 miles of our house.    What if that deer had been "passed" by a hunter looking for a larger deer ?   

I had planned on passing smaller bucks for the first weekend of crossbow season.  After hearing about this tragedy, I will now target the first deer that gives me a shot, that I am 90 % certain I can make.  I don't care if it only has a single 3" spike.  We really do not need more wall decorations that bad.  I was also not sure if I was going to get the 2 extra dmps that will be available on November 1st, but now I will make sure to get up there and get them on my lunch break on Wed.  I will also hunt as often as I can, until my tags are filled.   My own family only needs (3) deer this year to last until next season, but the processors will accept all the donations they can get for the hunters feeding the hungry program.   It would be selfish of me to pass any deer when I have a tag, so I will not do it again.  It is real easy to do, until it strikes this close to home (for the second time).    

Edited October 29, 2017 by wolc123

[BigVal]

Terrible accident but I don't see it as a story to push shooting any deer you see. 

[wolc123]

8 minutes ago, BigVal said:

Terrible accident but I don't see it as a story to push shooting any deer you see. 

What if you pass a little four point, and it survives the season to become a big 8 next year, then comes thru the front window of a delivery van, killing the driver ?

 That is how the other fella bought it in our town about 20 years ago.   I would have a pretty tough time sleeping if I ended the season with a tag in my pocket and had passed a legal deer.   

[blackradio]

I feel stupider for having read this thread.

[Merlot]

maybe get the bars of soap out of the shower in case my wife slips and hurts herself.

[wolc123]

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2 minutes ago, blackradio said:

I feel stupider for having read this thread.

Does that mean you have been passing a few ? 

[BowmanMike]

Must have been God's wil that the girl struck the deer with the atv,right?

Edited October 29, 2017 by BowmanMike

[Robhuntandfish]

That's like saying you should cut down all little trees so that no big trees fall on people.  Accidents happen. Shooting little bucks doesn't save people's lives. 

[BowmanMike]

3 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

That's like saying you should cut down all little trees so that no big trees fall on people.  Accidents happen. Shooting little bucks doesn't save people's lives. 

Couldn't agree more.

[wolc123]

4 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

That's like saying you should cut down all little trees so that no big trees fall on people.  Accidents happen. Shooting little bucks doesn't save people's lives. 

A dead buck (of any size)  can not kill someone but a live one certainly can.  Does that make sense to you ?

[Zag]

It's a llllllllllloooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg stretch here. Sad to hear and I can't imagine loosing a child but we can't ask what if our whole life it's to short.

[Robhuntandfish]

4 minutes ago, wolc123 said:

A dead buck (of any size)  can not kill someone but a live one certainly can.  Does that make sense to you ?

No it doesn't.  Deer aren't serial killers. Tragedy for sure but if you think your saving lives by killing a handful of deer your just thinking a little too hard here.  

[grampy]

If I'm following this correctly, perhaps we should ban or kill all the cars! Because they hit and kill a thousand times more people than deer do? Then the deer will have nothing to run into! Make sense?  About as much as the OP I guess........

Edited October 29, 2017 by grampy

[Pygmy]

Hmmmm...By that same line of reasoning, I should have run over that family of four coons in the road on my way duck hunting yesterday morning...I braked (safely) and let them go..

Tonite, somebody's teenage daughter might see that same family of ringtails, swerve to miss them and hit a big tree and  be killed...

I'll feel SOOOO guilty for not running over the little varmints when I had the chance  <<sigh>>...

[wolc123]

 

7 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

No it doesn't.  Deer aren't serial killers. Tragedy for sure but if you think your saving lives by killing a handful of deer your just thinking a little too hard here.  

We can all make a difference if we stop worrying about one-upping each other by killing larger antlered deer.   It was tough sitting down at lunch today with a bunch of those classmates, knowing that I had passed on a few deer in years past.  At least I am thankful that the one I passed at home last year got killed a couple weeks later by my neighbor. 

Edited October 29, 2017 by wolc123

[Robhuntandfish]

Your not making a difference by killing deer to save people's lives . It doesn't make a lick of sense. Bailing on this thread. Deer are not out to kill people it's a freak accident. If you think you can prevent freak accidents by killing animals ......yikes.   

People don't hunt deer cause they are a danger to humanity.  Maybe you should go out west and kill some little grizzlies before they attack. .....this makes zero sense to me.  

Sorry to hear of the loss of this young person. But maybe you should look into banning 4 wheelers since they kill more people than deer. And like grumpy said cars......I teach the def driving class and the #1 cause of death for people  under the age of 25 is motor vehicle accidents. Not random dumb deer. 

[Robhuntandfish]

And sorry grampy not grumpy.....stupid auto correct.....lol.   I'm out....

[erussell]

Had to read the whole post to see if he was serious. 

[wolc123]

4 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

And sorry grampy not grumpy.....stupid auto correct.....lol.   I'm out....

Grampy (and a few others)  might be a little grumpy thinking about some of the deer they have passed.  I am sorry for that.   

[moog5050]

And what if someone is killed by hitting the mature buck I would have killed had I passed on the first spike?  See how circular this logic is wolc?

[Buckmaster7600]

Wow, I have read some very stupid posts from you but this one takes the cake! I have let 9 bucks go so far this year, I'm going to have a very hard time sleeping tonight... NOT!


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[wolc123]

2 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

And what if someone is killed by hitting the mature buck I would have killed had I passed on the first spike?  See how circular this logic is wolc?

I follow that moog and 7600.  As long as you fill that tag by the end of the season you should be good.  I only passed one 90% or better shot last year and I filled my tag on a larger buck 5 minutes after that pass.  It is the tag-eaters that we need to be most concerned about.   You fellas have done your part.   

[grampy]

10 minutes ago, wolc123 said:

Grampy (and a few others)  might be a little grumpy thinking about some of the deer they have passed.  I am sorry for that.   

I will assure you that grampy is not grumpy over any deer I have ever passed. And I am not sorry at all for just letting them walk on by, to create mayhem on mankind.

[Buckmaster7600]

I follow that moog and 7600.  As long as you fill that tag by the end of the season you should be good.  I only passed one 90% or better shot last year and I filled my tag on a larger buck 5 minutes after that pass.  It is the tag-eaters that we need to be most concerned about.   You fellas have done your part.   

I finish out nearly every year with a tag in my pocket. That tag means I can hunt and I like hunting way more than killing.


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[Zag]

3 minutes ago, wolc123 said:

I follow that moog and 7600.  As long as you fill that tag by the end of the season you should be good.  I only passed one 90% or better shot last year and I filled my tag on a larger buck 5 minutes after that pass.  It is the tag-eaters that we need to be most concerned about.   You fellas have done your part.   

So if I don't fill all my tags I'm the problem???