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That sounds about right, Chris...Especially if the rain holds off until daylight...

 

Actually, if I were betting man, I'd go with 630 to 6:40 ( due to overcast) and then maybe  8 or 10 more shots before legal shooting time...

Back in the shotgun days, before rifles were legal, I would double or triple those numbers...

 

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10 minutes ago, growalot said:

 I don't know how! I  Shoot open sights, a bead I paint with neon orange nail polish.. no way I could see that bead before good light...everyone must have light gathering scopes...LOL

With a simple 4X fixed Leupold, I could easily take safe shots 1/2 hour before and after NY  shooting times...In most states  where I have hunted, shooting time was 1/2 hour before published daylight and sometimes 1/2 hour after  and it was no problem getting a clear sight picture with a quality scope...Not night vision scopes either, just garden variety quality optics.

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Yes , last year when this came up ..... I researched neighboring states, known popular deer hunting states , western states , I could not find one with NYS  sunrise to sunset laws .

Every . Single . One . Was half hour before and after . Which is what we have here , unofficially .

I bet that an easy 25 % and perhaps as many as 50% of deer taken here are outside legal hours , based on shots I hear .

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8g and 9f here....heard no less than 125 shots today..some well after legal shooting and bet w dozen is a better number before legal here and the same number after. I agree with the sentiments that the actual sunrise sunset rules for big game are dumb....but NY gun hunter lawlessness is insane


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33 minutes ago, growalot said:

 I don't know how! I  Shoot open sights, a bead I paint with neon orange nail polish.. no way I could see that bead before good light...everyone must have light gathering scopes...LOL

 

4 minutes ago, gjs4 said:

8g and 9f here....heard no less than 125 shots today..some well after legal shooting and bet w dozen is a better number before legal here and the same number after. I agree with the sentiments that the actual sunrise sunset rules for big game are dumb....but NY gun hunter lawlessness is insane


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So what made you think those shots were being fired illegally ?

Lots of guys today were shooting their guns to make sure they are on zero...

I happened to be at a friend's house tonite and his nephew returned home from college , set up a target across the pond and  fired    3 " confidence" shots, just before dark...

out of the 125 shots you heard today, a few may have been illegal...There are some outlaws out there and always have been..But I'll bet the great majority of them were legitimate...

 

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At five minutes to legal shooting time, it's been "light" out for at least fifteen minutes. Honestly, how many would "not" pull the trigger if a wallhanger was at fifty yards, broadside, looking the other way? Honestly, .............. I  know what I'd do.

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Sorry I have passed..and more than once.. That timer doesn't buzz in my pocket I don't shoot...I only go out way early during gun to avoid being shot...

Ps.. having a slug whizz past my ear.hitting a branch infront of my face causing it to snap back hitting me as I watched the slug ricochet downward cutting a dog wood in half,20 mins. Before legal light as I sat in a 16 ft stand,showed me even that is false hope...

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I’m with grampy on this one. I think that safe and ethical shooting light is a bit before sunrise. If I had a 150” in front of me at 5 minutes before, I know what I’m doing and feel I know what the vast majority would do as well.

 

Anyway, my predictor is 6:13 and I’ll hear 65 shots tomorrow before the downpour.

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