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10 hours ago, ATbuckhunter said:

Exactly why I wont eat bear meat. Just not worth it for me 

Probably safer than most of the food you eat at fast food restaurants lol. I've had wild pig and cooked the heck outa it so I get where your coming from though.

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Just now, Fletch said:

Probably safer than most of the food you eat at fast food restaurants lol. I've had wild pig and cooked the heck outa it so I get where your coming from though.

You're probably not wrong about that lol. This is why I shoot so many deer...best meat you can eat.

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19 hours ago, Fletch said:

From what I understand bears meat can vary widely. The taste is consistent with what they eat. I had a friend take one down in GA a few years back, it was young and eating corn and crops. He said it was super. Rinella has said some of the best meat and fat he has taken was from a bear living off of pretty much blueberries. So much that the fat tasted like blueberries. I have also heard some have real bad tasting ones, ones from eating rotting fish or garbage....

this right here. blueberry or mast/ag crop bears are supposed to be amazing. But there's a real problem in alaska where they eat rotting salmon or dead wales and just taste horrendous. 


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Everything you always wanted to know about trichinosis, I don't think the CDC has any agenda. Obviously something can get into a farm-raised hogs food to cause trichinosis, but outlawing the feeding of raw-meat garbage to hogs seems to have decreased the cases dramatically. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/trichinellosis/gen_info/faqs.html

 

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12 hours ago, Uncle Nicky said:

All the ones I killed were definitely deep in the "bush" and not primarily garbage eaters, baited with donuts, old meat & fish racks. It wasn't so much the taste, it was less bloody tasting than whitetail, but a little tough & chewy. It could have something to do with the meat being cooked to the medium well stage (I don't think 140 is enough to safely kill trichinosis). For the same reason, I wouldn't chance making smoked sausage or jerky out of bear meat, but to each his own.

140 is safe, but you can do 160 and not ruin your meat either. just treat it like pork

2 hours ago, G-Man said:

Funny how people are worried about bear but think nothing of throwing pork fat, eating pork sausage, and pork in general when It can carry it as well. The meat doesn't all.come from nice USDA monitored pork farms. Just like mad cow or any other disease.  Any meat can carry something look at all the dam recalls..  cook it to proper temp and eat.. 

exactly! What happens is a few guys do get sick, because they dont treat their wild game like their store bought game for some reason, and if anything we should be more careful with wild game as few of us our pros and none of these deer or bear die with a pneumatic gun to the head in a controlled environment. 

handle your sh!t properly and there is no worry. eat a raw piece over a  camp fire like rinella and suffer the consequences. 

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17 minutes ago, Belo said:

140 is safe, but you can do 160 and not ruin your meat either. just treat it like pork 

exactly! What happens is a few guys do get sick, because they dont treat their wild game like their store bought game for some reason, and if anything we should be more careful with wild game as few of us our pros and none of these deer or bear die with a pneumatic gun to the head in a controlled environment. 

handle your sh!t properly and there is no worry. eat a raw piece over a  camp fire like rinella and suffer the consequences. 

140 is just BARELY on the edge of safe, thermometers are not always 100% accurate, and the CDC is recommending higher temps for wild game (bears). If somebody wants to risk getting sick, that's their business, but at least make sure you cook the meat to medium well if you plan to feed it to your family or friends.

When I had my processing business, I flat out refused to make jerky or smoked sausage out of bear meat or wild hog meat. I know I pissed some customers off, but to me it wasn't worth the risk of making them sick, their family sick, or possibly contaminating equipment.

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2 minutes ago, Uncle Nicky said:

140 is just BARELY on the edge of safe, thermometers are not always 100% accurate, and the CDC is recommending higher temps for wild game (bears). If somebody wants to risk getting sick, that's their business, but at least make sure you cook the meat to medium well if you plan to feed it to your family or friends.

I agree. You're far more likely to contract lime from a tick in the woods than properly preparing bear meat. And one has consequences a lot worse than the other. 

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6 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

Nope not even bacon! It just feels like a dirty animal to me

Wander around a chicken raising and processing facility and you will be running to get some pork...lol. Chickens are the filthiest animals alive. 

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1 minute ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

Wander around a chicken raising and processing facility and you will be running to get some pork...lol. Chickens are the filthiest animals alive. 

Lol you have a point there! 

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4 hours ago, ATbuckhunter said:

Nope not even bacon! It just feels like a dirty animal to me

Oh ok. I dont know what life would be like without bacon lol.

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I eat pork and bacon and medium rare burgers from slaughterhouse cows that probably swam in their own “dodo feces,” a phrase beautifully coined by Michael Jackson when he was discussing his prison cell.

I eat organ meat from deer and raw fish and hotdogs and worst of all White Castle as a nice treat!

BEAR meat skeeves me out....period! It may be irrational; it may be foolish. But if I can’t enjoy what I am going to eat or have a hint of skepticism about its sanitary nature, I’m out!


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I like bacon, yet I have never bought it to make at home. It never crosses my mind. But I’ll gladly order bacon for breakfast if I’m out


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On 9/11/2019 at 4:59 PM, crappyice said:

I eat pork and bacon and medium rare burgers from slaughterhouse cows that probably swam in their own “dodo feces,” a phrase beautifully coined by Michael Jackson when he was discussing his prison cell.

I eat organ meat from deer and raw fish and hotdogs and worst of all White Castle as a nice treat!

BEAR meat skeeves me out....period! It may be irrational; it may be foolish. But if I can’t enjoy what I am going to eat or have a hint of skepticism about its sanitary nature, I’m out!


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what if you tested it and it came back negative? 


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I consider myself an adventurous eater, as long as it is safe to eat and most of all tastes good I will enjoy. Like crappyice there are some things that just do not appeal to me no matter how tasty they may be, a mental thing I guess.

No Dogs, Cats or Monkeys on the menu for me!:negative:

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23 minutes ago, airedale said:

I consider myself an adventurous eater, as long as it is safe to eat and most of all tastes good I will enjoy. Like crappyice there are some things that just do not appeal to me no matter how tasty they may be, a mental thing I guess.

No Dogs, Cats or Monkeys on the menu for me!:negative:

Al

 

Some people eat mountain lions out west and rave how good the meat is.  NO way would I ever want to even try it.  At least a bear is an omnivore and will eat berries and other stuff along with meat, but a mountain lion is a pure carnivore which I couldn't get my head around while trying to eat the meat.

 

 

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what if you tested it and it came back negative? 

My best answer is maybe...if I need to go through all that to eat the meat I’m not sure I would be enamored by it. It certainly would help .... I just can’t explain why bear meat freaks me out.


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On 9/24/2019 at 8:42 AM, airedale said:

I consider myself an adventurous eater, as long as it is safe to eat and most of all tastes good I will enjoy. Like crappyice there are some things that just do not appeal to me no matter how tasty they may be, a mental thing I guess.

No Dogs, Cats or Monkeys on the menu for me!:negative:

Al

As a kid, like many of us, i took quite a few wasteful lives with the bb gun and .22. As an adult I'm no longer interested in killing what I wont eat. I enjoy bear hunting. I've only been at it 2 seasons, but the rush I got last year at dusk as I heard an animal approaching through the brush is unrivaled. It ended up just being a deer, but it was still a rush. I'd love to harvest a bear and make a rug and I wouldn't feel ok about not at least trying it. If I ever am successful and don't like the meat I'm not sure I will try again. 

This isn't intended to judge others, just my own personal belief system.

On 9/24/2019 at 9:10 AM, steve863 said:

 

Some people eat mountain lions out west and rave how good the meat is.  NO way would I ever want to even try it.  At least a bear is an omnivore and will eat berries and other stuff along with meat, but a mountain lion is a pure carnivore which I couldn't get my head around while trying to eat the meat.

 

 

wouldn't even try it? Come on, if someone had a lion kabob you'd just turn it down?


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27 minutes ago, Belo said:

wouldn't even try it? Come on, if someone had a lion kabob you'd just turn it down?

 

I'd give it to you instead.  Bon appetit!  :)

 

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