NY DEC officers ticket dozens of poachers over the past few weeks

[HuntingNY]

Just released a few minutes ago, the NY DEC announced that NY DEC officers ticket dozens of poachers over the past few weeks. The full announcement from the DEC and list of locations as well as those involved in the incidents is attached in PDF to this article.

New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) police officers recently concluded a blanket deer taking enforcement detail in the Capital Region and surrounding areas in conjunction with the states of Connecticut, Massachusetts and Vermont, DEC announced today.

Environmental Conservation Officers (ECO) worked in conjunction with their counterparts in neighboring states to set up saturation patrols to target illegal deer shooting with the use of an artificial light, a practice commonly known as deer jacking. Typically, deer jacking occurs in remote rural areas, throughout the night. During this operation, which took place in late October and the first three weeks of November, ECOs worked long hours and often confronted armed individuals.

“The vast majority of hunters pursue and take game legally,” said DEC Law Enforcement Major Tim Duffy. “We work closely with the sporting community to stop individuals from illegally taking game to the detriment of wildlife populations and the legal efforts of honest hunters.”

ECOs are out in full force this time of year patrolling, staking out, and observing the lands on which people take deer. They are in uniform and undercover; they are in vehicles and on foot; they are checking licenses and watching over deer decoys.

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[burmjohn]

To bad the fines are not more severe... Ruins it for the rest of us.

[WNYBuckHunter]

I hope they all get the max penalties. Good work DEC.

[sampotter]

It never gets old reading these reports. Too bad they keep coming though.

[5.9cummins]

Hopefully there will be another one to come for the central NY area and or WNY areas.

[virgil]

Glad they got caught. It doesn't mention anything about loss of hunting license. Is that because they haven't been convicted yet? I'd have to assume that these violations would get your hunting license revoked, no?

[burmjohn]

Yeah I'm guessing once convicted they loose it for at least a few years. But if they are a poacher I hardly think they are worrying about their license.

[growalot]

Once again...I see that central /western NY wasn't included...yet authorities know about it....the Sheriff knew it was wide spread here when I told him of the one on our place

But Kudos to the ones they got else where

[WNYBuckHunter]

They are probably conducting the same type of operations out this way, they just havent published the reports yet.

[sampotter]

They posted a big report for region 7 last year

[88GW]

For the first time I saw some DEC officers patrolling the area I hunt. Glad to see them out! My only complaint is looking at some of the fines. One guy shoots a deer over bait and the fine is 250 another guy spotlights within 500 feet of a dwelling and the fine is 250. Doesn't seem logical to me.

[NFA-ADK]

They should do this year round as poachers have no season... Should be a mandatory licence revocation on the worst offenders... DEC has thier work cut out for them. Poachers suck!!!

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Responding to an ATV trespass complaint in the town of Indian Lake an ECO discovered deer and bear bait in the area. On October 22, after a month-long investigation, three men were charged with numerous violations of Environmental Conservation Law. Michael J. Weis, 48, of Babylon (Suffolk County) was charged with illegally feeding bear and deer, placing a salt lick on lands inhabited by deer and bear, ATV infractions (all violations), and illegally discharging sewage, a misdemeanor. Vincent Pizzello, 58, of West Islip (Suffolk County) was charged with illegally feeding deer, shooting deer over bait and failure to carry hunting license and carcass tags while hunting, all violations. George M. Saraiva, 42, of New City (Rockland County) was charged with illegally feeding deer and shooting deer over bait, both violations. The three men were issued summonses to appear before the town of Indian Lake Justice Court. Weis faces maximum penalties of $38,750 in fines and up to one year and 90 days in jail. Pizzello faces up to $750 in fines and up to 45 days in jail. Saraiva faces up to $500 in fines and up to 30 days in jail. So i guess the moral of the story is shooting deer and bear over bait isn't as big of a deal a pooping in the woods...lol. Bet that guy wishes he took the extra time at home that morning...lol

Edited November 29, 2011 by Culvercreek hunt club

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Going to sound sad but I have made two report to DEC about bait being used this year. Nothing has been done and the bait stations are still there and being used. I think the baiting violation is like the cell phone used to be. they ticket if it is in conjunction with another crime. I just don't understand why they haven't done anything.

[sampotter]

Culver- are those guys the "Citiots" that Pat Rockets refers to?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Not sure but one is in a very city type area and one is very rural. DEC has done nothing. The one I can plainly see from my office and the deer have been there today.

[DEADDEER1]

6 pages of SCUMBAGS makes me sick

[growalot]

REG 8

[Dom]

Dumb asses thats what they are.There is only two things that i poach and that is eggs and fish.

[RifleSharpShot]

Not cool at all!!

[JFB]

Glad the DEC has made some impacts in some cases. Personally, I called the hotline this weekend and it was clear that the operator had very little interest in sending an officer out. They asked me so many questions and basically it made me feel like they wanted to see if I had the perps tied to a tree for them as a guaranteed catch. They didn't have the man power to investigate or work on the situation. Sad but it sounds similar to the earlier post who tried to report bait piles but nothing done about it. I sure hope they post the arrest made in region 8.

[noahmstone]

1. The game warden used to tell us for trespassers call the state troopers because the $250 fine dec gives out automatically goes to a $1000 fine if the troopers respond.

2. They left a big one out of this article.

"CLARE — The chairman of the Ogdensburg Bridge and Port Authority’s board of directors was charged Oct. 19 with discharging a firearm across a public highway, a violation, by New York State Department of Conservation officers.

Frederick J, Carter, 66, Clark Street, Ogdensburg, is accused of shooting at a deer on the side of a road at 4:55 p.m., according to DEC.

To avoid the criminal charge, Mr. Carter agreed to a civil penalty, which came with a $200 fine, Mr. Carter said.

Also with Mr. Carter was Edward Carter, 77, and Charles J. Schaver, 78, who also were charged with discharging a firearm across a public highway

Edward Carter was also charged with possessing a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle. All charges were settled with civil fines, Mr. Carter said.

He said he was driving on Tooley Pond Road when he saw a large buck on the side of the road. What Mr. Carter said he didn’t know was that it was not a real deer.

“It was a wonderful decoy,” he said.

He said his brother, Edward, got out of the truck and began firing at the fake animal. He and Mr. Schaver were charged even though he said they did not fire.

“It’s one of those things that happens,” Mr. Carter said. “It’s like getting a speeding ticket.”

Edited November 30, 2011 by noahmstone

[sampotter]

Wowsa! Now that is a good one!

[88GW]

1. The game warden used to tell us for trespassers call the state troopers because the $250 fine dec gives out automatically goes to a $1000 fine if the troopers respond. 2. They left a big one out of this article. "CLARE — The chairman of the Ogdensburg Bridge and Port Authority’s board of directors was charged Oct. 19 with discharging a firearm across a public highway, a violation, by New York State Department of Conservation officers. Frederick J, Carter, 66, Clark Street, Ogdensburg, is accused of shooting at a deer on the side of a road at 4:55 p.m., according to DEC. To avoid the criminal charge, Mr. Carter agreed to a civil penalty, which came with a $200 fine, Mr. Carter said. Also with Mr. Carter was Edward Carter, 77, and Charles J. Schaver, 78, who also were charged with discharging a firearm across a public highway Edward Carter was also charged with possessing a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle. All charges were settled with civil fines, Mr. Carter said. He said he was driving on Tooley Pond Road when he saw a large buck on the side of the road. What Mr. Carter said he didn’t know was that it was not a real deer. “It was a wonderful decoy,” he said. He said his brother, Edward, got out of the truck and began firing at the fake animal. He and Mr. Schaver were charged even though he said they did not fire. “It’s one of those things that happens,” Mr. Carter said. “It’s like getting a speeding ticket.”

Noahmstone Besides DEC enforcing environmental laws and Troopers enforce state laws, what are the differences in jurisdiction between DEC and State/Local police?? Do DEC have more or less authority and if so how?

[Jennifer]

Glad the DEC has made some impacts in some cases. Personally, I called the hotline this weekend and it was clear that the operator had very little interest in sending an officer out. They asked me so many questions and basically it made me feel like they wanted to see if I had the perps tied to a tree for them as a guaranteed catch. They didn't have the man power to investigate or work on the situation. Sad but it sounds similar to the earlier post who tried to report bait piles but nothing done about it. I sure hope they post the arrest made in region 8.

Without ranting about NYS's handling of various budgets, I am sad to say to expect to see this more and more. The DEC is forcefully out of a lot of its manpower, and they are letting DEC workers and ECOs go at a sad, regular rate these days.