who thinks this was a fair election?

[cachemoney]

1 minute ago, phantom said:

The democrat's will  suicide  anyone who rats on their  election rigging  probably they want to win that bad 

They probably killed this guys mom and forced him to commit voter fraud with her fake ballot:

https://www.timesleader.com/news/808825/boockvar-only-confirmed-case-of-voter-fraud-happened-in-luzerne-county/amp

[phantom]

6 minutes ago, cachemoney said:

They probably killed this guys mom and forced him to commit voter fraud with her fake ballot:

https://www.timesleader.com/news/808825/boockvar-only-confirmed-case-of-voter-fraud-happened-in-luzerne-county/amp

if you think their is only 1 or to cases of this I have highway I would like to sell you . biden got more votes then Obama then Hilary and the guy never had 5 guys show up to see him in a room . 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by phantom

[Splitear]

NM

Edited November 11, 2020 by Splitear

[phantom]

15 minutes ago, Splitear said:

NM

be nice to know for sure 

[phantom]

16 minutes ago, Splitear said:

NM

biden got more then  5 million  votes then Obama lol no way 

[Grouse]

Douglas Andrews

Many of us need no persuading. We already know in our bones that the Democrats stole this presidential election from Donald Trump. Others, though, still need convincing. This article is for you.

One of the points we've been making is about the utter improbability of all these votes for Joe Biden. This, after all, is the guy who couldn't draw flies to a rally, but who has so far racked up a lot more population-adjusted votes than the then-record 69 million that young, dynamic Barack Obama got in his once-in-a-lifetime 2008 campaign. We also mentioned the many tens of thousands of "Biden-only" ballots we're seeing in key states — ballots that appear to have been hastily filled out with no regard whatsoever to high-profile state and local races. And, of course, we noted that President Trump has received more votes — many millions more votes — than all but one candidate in the history of the Republic: an uninspiring, gaffe-prone, 77-year-old career politician named Joe Biden and his now 77 million votes.

It just doesn't pass the giggle test, does it?

Steve Cortes clearly doesn't think so. The senior Trump campaign adviser and self-described Voice of the Deplorables has put together a brief, plain-as-day statistical case for the unlikelihood of Biden's media-declared victory — a case that, in his words, "provides more than enough reasonable suspicion to require hand recounts and immediate investigation into fraudulent activities, including the new damning revelations of on-the-record whistleblowers."

The points he makes are about turnout, Biden's aforementioned performance versus Obama, those Biden-only ballots, and the lack of mail-in vote vetting in a certain swing state.

Turnout in the crucial swing state of Wisconsin, Cortes notes, was above 90% for registered voters, and it was 84% in Wisconsin's most populous city, Milwaukee, which gave Biden 145,916 more votes than it did Trump. Cortes compares Milwaukee turnout to that of a very similar Midwestern city with a very similar racial composition, Cleveland, which had a far more believable 51% turnout rate. What are the odds?

As for Biden cleaning young Barack's electoral clock, "Could a candidate as doddering and lazy as Biden really have massively outpaced the vote totals of a politician who boasted rock star appeal?" Cortes asks. "For example, consider that in key Pennsylvania counties of Chester, Cumberland, and Montgomery, Biden bested the Obama election performances by factors of 1.24-1.43 times." (No, population growth doesn't explain the gains.) But such eye-popping numbers in just the right places?

C'mon, man.

And how to explain all those "Biden-only" ballots, reportedly more than 450,000 of them nationwide? Is it really plausible that so many folks would be civic-minded enough to vote but would ignore closely contested Senate, House, and local races and initiatives down ballot? And that this odd behavior would be confined mostly to key battleground states? As Cortes writes, "President Trump's vote total [in Georgia] almost exactly tracked the vote totals for the Republican senate candidates, separated by merely 818 votes out of 2.43 million votes Trump earned there. But, Joe Biden saw an astounding surplus of 95,801 votes over the Democratic Senate candidates."

Finally, people on both sides of the political spectrum agree that mail-in ballots are far more likely to result in fraud than in-person voting. And yet in critical Pennsylvania, the rejection of just 0.03% of mail-in ballots represents a refusal rate that is just 1/30th the level of 2016 in Pennsylvania and 1/700th the rate of the 21% of mail-in ballots rejected in New York state this past summer. Why, it's as if the election officials in Democrat-controlled Pennsylvania just knew all those mail-in votes would help their cause.

The bottom line? There's a whole lot of fraudulent meat on this here election bone. But regardless of whether the Trump team can change the outcome, we need to track down and investigate every irregularity, particularly the Democrats' massive bulk-mail-ballot fraud. Otherwise, this behavior will become their standard for stealing elections in 2022 and beyond.

Edited November 11, 2020 by Grouse

[left field]

[Grouse]

DOUGLAS ANDREWS

There are plenty of fraud allegations out there, plenty to keep even a sizable legal team busy. But this much seems clear: Any pathway to President Donald Trump's reelection must include a win in Pennsylvania.

Or must it?

National Review's Andrew McCarthy thinks so. He calls the Keystone State "ground zero."

"In any event," McCarthy writes, "it is sensible that Pennsylvania is the center of the action. First, Trump needs the Commonwealth — if he doesn't flip it, there is nothing else to discuss. Second, as we've been covering here at NR since mid October, there is already a live Supreme Court case challenging Pennsylvania's election law, relating to whether the three-day extension for receiving ballots (i.e., through close of business last Friday, November 6) is constitutional. Finally, the Keystone State is where the Trump camp believes it can make a strong case of fraud."

Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer, says that because Philadelphia's Republican poll watchers weren't allowed to monitor the vote counting there, more than 300,000 ballots are in dispute. In addition, as McCarthy points out, there are 300,000 more votes at issue in Pittsburgh for the same reasons. "Giuliani," he says, "further posits a motive: He notes that late on the night of the election, President Trump appeared to be ahead by over 700,000 votes. So the theory is that what Rudy called the 'decrepit Democratic machine' produced fraudulent ballots to erase the deficit and put Biden ahead."

All this is good, sound, impenetrable McCarthian logic, and far be it from us to lock horns with him (or Rudy) on matters of legal strategy. But we'll bite on the math of McCarthy's first point: that if the president can't flip Pennsylvania, he can't win. Not true. Not true at all. In fact, we don't even want Pennsylvania, for reasons we'll explain in a moment.

First, we should start by putting the Trump electoral count at 232, because that's where it'll be when North Carolina and Alaska — two states whose outcome no one is seriously disputing — finally go into the Trump column where they've belonged since election night. From 232, then, a flip of three states with razor-thin margins — Wisconsin (10), Arizona (11), and Georgia (16) — would put the president at 269 electoral votes ... a splendiferous tie with the media's "President-elect" Joe Biden.

We say splendiferous because a 269-269 tie would go to President Trump. How? Our constitutional system says that in the event of an electoral tie, the House of Representatives picks the president and the Senate picks the veep.

But Andrews, you knucklehead, the House is firmly in Democrat hands!

And indeed it is. But the House doesn't get to cast its decisive votes by individual member. Instead, it must cast them by state delegation — one vote per glorious state. So California's 40-something Democrats will carry the exact same voting weight as Wyoming's one Republican rep, and New York's 20-something the same as Montana's one. And given that the GOP controlled more state delegations going into last Tuesday's election, and given that they didn't lose a single House seat, it's safe to say that the Republicans still have the numbers to return President Trump for a second term.

All Rudy needs to do is make the fraud case in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia. And all we need to do is stock up on beer, brats, burgers, and plywood paneling.

Like we said, splendiferous.

The bottom line? The Trump team may or may not be able to change this electoral outcome, but for the sake of future elections, EVERY instance of fraud in this election, particularly the Democrats' massive bulk-mail-ballot fraud, must be exposed now. If not, those fraudulent methods WILL become their standard for stealing elections in 2022 and beyond.

[Northcountryman]

29 minutes ago, Grouse said:

The bottom line? The Trump team may or may not be able to change this electoral outcome, but for the sake of future elections, EVERY instance of fraud in this election, particularly the Democrats' massive bulk-mail-ballot fraud, must be exposed now. If not, those fraudulent methods WILL become their standard for stealing elections in 2022 and beyond.

No doubt !! 

[BowmanMike]

I eagerly await any proof of voter fraud you guys can come up with. Oh wait,not needing proof is the number one requirement to be a trump supporter.

And why would the democrats steal the presidential election and not the senate? 

[Grouse]

Be patient and let the courts listen to the requests for recounts based on the evidence supplied which indicates massive improbability regarding the election results.

Once the recounts are ordered by the courts, all the evidence will be presented for all to see.

Hopefully the fraud will be exposed and Trump will overcome this leftist coup.

If not, America will be dead and all the Biden supporters will be responsible for it's demise.

[Grouse]

Neil Cavuto claims that the Republicans haven't provided evidence of illegal voting. Is he serious? Many here echo his thoughts.

Here is the filing in Pennsylvania, and it is filled with signed affidavits. Tons of evidence. Read this:

https://www.scribd.com/document/483697589/Trump-Lawsuit?fbclid=IwAR32B9ktjKFjzil_iQ0NEEfbEo-MgGGnwyRIsF6lQWaksu7J0DF0thLcZCM#download&from_embed

[cachemoney]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/this-election-result-wont-be-overturned-11605134335

That super-lib commie Karl Rove thinks it was a fair election. 

"To win, Mr. Trump must prove systemic fraud, with illegal votes in the tens of thousands. There is no evidence of that so far."

[Uncle Nicky]

[Grouse]

I like how the hedge their statements with "so far".   This way they can say they weren't lying.

 

[Grouse]

[Merlot]

On 11/10/2020 at 5:49 AM, phantom said:

When you have a election both sides need to trust the system , it needs to be fair and  transparent   . To do that you need universal voter ID laws  and in person  voting  , unless you are military  overseas 

the way it was done this time with almost more people doing the  mail in voting with no ID , THEN IN PERSON ,  most reasonable people will not trust the outcome no matter which side wins  when its close like this .

can you be on a jury with out showing up at court  ?  nope  so why is voting any  different ?  To lazy to get off the couch  is not a excuse  to not vote in person and frankly  those types probably should  not be voting anyway . 

 

 

Lot of people have just checked out on actively participating in society. Easier to sit on their arse and just dial up for something on their precious Smart phones and let someone else do the heavy lifting. Same goes with ballots being sent out...What the heck is the matter with some people?

Cannot wait to see those precious phones being limited in use and content when the Marxists take control...then you'll hear people scream..." what happened to us? my rights are being violated   what happened???...C'mon man...here's the deal...just look in the mirror idiot...probably your unconcern and laziness is what caused the problem, not bad orange man ...C'mon man...

[Steuben Jerry]

18 hours ago, BowmanMike said:

Oh wait,not needing proof is the number one requirement to be a trump supporter.

Kind of painting with a broad brush there..

[phantom]

14 hours ago, cachemoney said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/this-election-result-wont-be-overturned-11605134335

That super-lib commie Karl Rove thinks it was a fair election. 

"To win, Mr. Trump must prove systemic fraud, with illegal votes in the tens of thousands. There is no evidence of that so far."

Karl Rove is a bush  guy  , to do this   they had the blessings of  many on  both sides to rig it  if that's what  happened.  I would not trust him  he is part of the old guard  in DC  

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Merlot said:

Lot of people have just checked out on actively participating in society. Easier to sit on their arse and just dial up for something on their precious Smart phones and let someone else do the heavy lifting. Same goes with ballots being sent out...What the heck is the matter with some people?

Cannot wait to see those precious phones being limited in use and content when the Marxists take control...then you'll hear people scream..." what happened to us? my rights are being violated   what happened???...C'mon man...here's the deal...just look in the mirror idiot...probably your unconcern and laziness is what caused the problem, not bad orange man ...C'mon man...

yep  anyone who cant get off  the couch to go in person  and provide a ID to  vote once every few years shouldn't be able to unless they have a very good reason why they cant go.  and still you need to ask for a mail in, none of this unsolicited crap with no  ID  that's  a joke  .

Edited November 12, 2020 by phantom

[wildcat junkie]

On 11/11/2020 at 12:25 PM, left field said:

One the main reasons that Trump is so desperate to be re-elected is because that would allow the statutes of limitations to run out on the crimes he committed before 2017. He would get off Scott free on the money laundering scheme that bailed out his failed real estate empire. Deutsche Bank has the evidence and it will probably be released as soon as he is no longer a sitting President.

https://forensicnews.net/2020/01/21/russian-government-bank-deposited-500-million-into-deutsche-bank-subsidiary-as-it-lent-to-trump/

https://forensicnews.net/2020/01/03/trump-deutsche-bank-loans-underwritten-by-russian-state-owned-bank-whistleblower-told-fbi/

 

[Grouse]

Wow, with all of that criminal evidence in their hands, you would think the Dems would've mentioned it in their impeachment scam.  They would have succeeded with the impeachment if they presented that type of evidence.

I guess the Dems didn't want Trump out of office then?

 

[nybuckboy]

 

[BowmanMike]

9 hours ago, Grouse said:

Wow, with all of that criminal evidence in their hands, you would think the Dems would've mentioned it in their impeachment scam.  They would have succeeded with the impeachment if they presented that type of evidence.

I guess the Dems didn't want Trump out of office then?

 

Impeachment is for a specific offense,not a laundry list of charges against the man. The two dont have anything to do with each other other than pertaining to Trump.

He cant be imprached for a crime he committed before being president.

[phantom]

24 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

Impeachment is for a specific offense,not a laundry list of charges against the man. The two dont have anything to do with each other other than pertaining to Trump.

He cant be imprached for a crime he committed before being president.

and want crime did trump commit being a good businessman?