UpStateRedNeck Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 46 minutes ago, Buckmaster7600 said: If recoil is an issue I highly recommend going to a lighter bullet! I haven’t found much of a difference in recoil between charge rates but bullet weights are absolutely noticeable. I’m not recoil sensitive but I shoot these with great results. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I used these this year with crush rib sabots, they performed very consistent at 100 yards "unloading" with 100 gr bh209. Can't find any right now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 57 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: My MLs are so heavy I don't feel any recoil at all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Not only weight but the powder , black powder has more of a push on your shoulder compared to a rifle or shotgun that hits quicker and harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, UpStateRedNeck said: I used these this year with crush rib sabots, they performed very consistent at 100 yards "unloading" with 100 gr bh209. Can't find any right now though. So is that a 45 cal bullet ? And I’d use a 50 cal sabot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveboone Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 a 50 cal ml will shoot 50 cal. saboted rounds...which use a .45 cal. projectile. What will work best for you can only be answered by you experimenting at the range. What works for one person may very well not be best for the next. I would certainly stay away from three pellet (150 grain total) charges, which arent necessary for deer anyway. Starting out pick a black powder substitute that you can reliably find and work from there. If you want to be proficient...it will take time at the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Correct as stated above ,you can also shoot .50 call full bore ,no sabot needed https://www.muzzleloading-bullets.com/ https://bullshop.weebly.com/bullets.html https://thorbullets.com/ https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/hornady-fpb-muzzleloader-bullets-300-350-grain-bullets.html https://www.hornady.com/muzzleloading/bore-driver-ftx#!/ Just to name a few ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 So right now there are no primers I guess ... when there is what ones are best ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 So right now there are no primers I guess ... when there is what ones are best ?I notice a difference with the KleenBore primers they definitely don't crust up the breech as quickly as standard onesSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 You wont feel anything when you're shooting at the deer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said: You wont feel anything when you're shooting at the deer No but after it blows what’s left of my shoulder I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 If you go the blackhorn route you should use a shotgun primer instead of a MZ primer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jeremy K said: If you go the blackhorn route you should use a shotgun primer instead of a MZ primer What’s the diff ? Isn’t a 209 primer the same for both ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, luberhill said: What’s the diff ? Isn’t a 209 primer the same for both ? The MZ primers are supposed to be weaker , the theory i believe is that a shot primer can dislodge the load before it fully combusts and cause inconsistencies in shot placement , so the weaker primer is supposed to ignite with out to much pressure . The blackhorn ignites much quicker then the other powders and pellets on the market and the hotter primer will ignite it faster . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jeremy K said: The MZ primers are supposed to be weaker , the theory i believe is that a shot primer can dislodge the load before it fully combusts and cause inconsistencies in shot placement , so the weaker primer is supposed to ignite with out to much pressure . The blackhorn ignites much quicker then the other powders and pellets on the market and the hotter primer will ignite it faster . So what primers do I use with 777 pellets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loworange88 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 hours ago, luberhill said: Can u post the one U use And is yours a 50 cal Ml ? They are the Hornady XTP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, luberhill said: So what primers do I use with 777 pellets You can use any primer for 777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ATbuckhunter said: You can use any primer for 777 So any brand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 So let me see if I got this if I buy a 50 cal Wolf I can buy 50 cal crush rib sabots that take a 45 cal bullet ? and use two 777 pellets and any 209 primer ? then just need to choose a good bullet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 ML’s barely thump. A 20 gauge field load hits the shoulder harder by a bunch. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, turkeyfeathers said: ML’s barely thump. A 20 gauge field load hits the shoulder harder by a bunch. Humm well that hasn’t been my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
land 1 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 u have no experience from what have gathered from this post and past posts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 14 hours ago, luberhill said: So any brand ? I used CCI primers, but thay was because I knew I was going to switch to Blackhorn 209 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 MY CVA is a 50 and i shoot a 45 projectile . Most people do. I tried white hotts ,they are absolute garbage. Curious as to why your hatred of white hots? I've been using them for years with no issues? Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Loose powder , 45 or 44 cal sabot 80 grains of powder kill anything out to 200 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Curious as to why your hatred of white hots? I've been using them for years with no issues? Sent from my moto g(6) using TapatalkThe founder of the company killed Jeremy's great-grandfather in a North Tonawanda saloon, circa 1886. The locals said it was a fair fight Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 The founder of the company killed Jeremy's great-grandfather in a North Tonawanda saloon, circa 1886. The locals said it was a fair fight Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProHaha gotta be a reason! And that would be a good one!Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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