G-Man Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Savage model 24 over under make it a .308 (would have to modify the 30-30)on top and 12ga on bottom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 This is the reason drilling were made in Europe 1 gun 3 barrels usually a double shotgun on top and rifle underneath ( of large caliber like 375 h&h mag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbler Chaser Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Tough one. I would go with any of the top bolt guns in 308. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 1:56 AM, phantom said: Just saying you moved here from a place with some of the strictest gun laws in the world and you say a bow ? Like don't you like freedom ? What made you move here from the old world if you are not going to take advanged of all the freedom this country gives you ? I don't get it ? Bad enough if they made the law one gun And you say no gun lol even the amish have guns. Expand Honestly,I don't get you guys fascination with guns. Are you saying freedom equals gun ownership? That seems pretty absurd. To protect yourselves against government overreach? When is the last time that happened? Ok,I forgot my 22. That one is useful on occasion. Actually the muzzleloader is more useful,it kills deer. There,happy now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:47 AM, BowmanMike said: To protect yourselves against government overreach? When is the last time that happened? Expand Yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:47 AM, BowmanMike said: Honestly,I don't get you guys fascination with guns. Are you saying freedom equals gun ownership? That seems pretty absurd. To protect yourselves against government overreach? When is the last time that happened? Ok,I forgot my 22. That one is useful on occasion. Actually the muzzleloader is more useful,it kills deer. There,happy now? Expand Your from the country of Germany right ? And say this lol Hitler nazi's ring a bell , Wow !!! I am really shocked . What just happened in Afghanistan ? A few days ago ? Taliban didn't take over that country with a bow did they ? How many directorships in the world let there people have guns 0 you thinks its a coincidence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:56 AM, phantom said: Your from the country of Germany right ? And say this lol Hitler nazi's ring a bell , Wow !!! I am really shocked . What just happened in Afghanistan ? A few days ago ? Taliban didn't take over that country with a bow did they ? How many directorships in the world let there people have guns 0 you thinks its a coincidence . Expand I was not talking about Afghanistan. What are their gun laws? I was talking about the U.S. If germans had guns back before Hitler came into power it would not have made a difference,they wanted him in power. So your arguments are all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:47 AM, BowmanMike said: Honestly,I don't get you guys fascination with guns Expand How the Hell would you know you are not even an American citizen, yet you come on an American hunting message board and lecture for the most part a conservative group about our traditions, values, rights and laws. Honestly "GET LOST"!! Al 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:47 AM, BowmanMike said: Are you saying freedom equals gun ownership? That seems pretty absurd. Expand Gun ownership means the government trusts the people. It also means the people are in charge of the government. Gun control means just the opposite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 11:13 AM, airedale said: How the Hell would you know you are not even an American citizen, yet you come on an American hunting message board and lecture for the most part a conservative group about our traditions, values, rights and laws. Honestly "GET LOST"!! Al Expand I just stated I don't get the fascination,how is that lecturing? you seem a little touchy on the subject,or too much caffeine? Are you so insecure that you flip your lid over a civil discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) Try looking at America's love of firearms the way Germans love beer. What would happen in Germany if the government started controlling beer with the intention of eliminating it and locking up people who drink it? (Damn. Another General Chit Chat post gone political. Can't seem to avoid it.) Edited August 28, 2021 by Grouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 11:16 AM, Grouse said: Gun ownership means the government trusts the people. It also means the people are in charge of the government. Gun control means just the opposite. Expand And here I thought voting puts us in charge of the government. I guess I am a simpleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 It does, but only if you can trust the votes. They held elections in the Soviet Union too. They had no guns to enforce the stolen ones though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loworange88 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 9:24 AM, G-Man said: Savage model 24 over under make it a .308 (would have to modify the 30-30)on top and 12ga on bottom Expand Practicality. Yes, I’d pick my 24 as well. 22lr/20ga. Good for small game, deer, and HD to an extent. Very versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 All one has to do is read your past posts to know what you are, all you do is take subtle cheap shots. You have no say here as far as I am concerned non-citizen "GET LOST" Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Seems many foreigners look down on us unwashed Americans from a "morally superior" vantage point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 10:56 AM, phantom said: Your from the country of Germany right ? And say this lol Hitler nazi's ring a bell , Wow !!! I am really shocked . What just happened in Afghanistan ? A few days ago ? Taliban didn't take over that country with a bow did they ? How many directorships in the world let there people have guns 0 you thinks its a coincidence . Expand The fantasy of acting like the Taliban is your best argument for guns? …Recall that the Afghan army was trained and heavily armed and didn’t put up a fight. You think you would’ve done more with your AR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 11:47 AM, Versatile_Hunter said: Recall that the Afghan army was trained and heavily armed and didn’t put up a fight. You think you would’ve done more with your AR? Expand Absolutely! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 11:31 AM, Grouse said: Seems many foreigners look down on us unwashed Americans from a "morally superior" vantage point. Expand Clowns like you don’t do Americans any favors. Go wash up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Ether a switch barrel gun or a 12ga. with two barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 11:54 AM, Versatile_Hunter said: Clowns like you don’t do Americans any favors. Go wash up Expand For you to insult me, I'd have to care about your opinion. I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Here we go , always has to turn into a pissing match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Yep. Some folks have to start throwing insults when they get triggered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 What will they do with all the extra guns when everyone can have just one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 11:03 AM, BowmanMike said: If germans had guns back before Hitler came into power it would not have made a difference,they wanted him in power. Expand Did hitler not seize the guns from the people after he was voted into power or was that only from the people of nations he conquered? On 8/28/2021 at 10:47 AM, BowmanMike said: Are you saying freedom equals gun ownership? That seems pretty absurd. Expand It’s in the bill of rights so yes here in America it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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