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Long-tine no see fellers! Hopefully everyone is ready for another exciting SHED SEASON!!! Normally I like to think that when I find an antler it means that the buck survived another season and I have something to look forward to the following year. That ain't gonna happen with this guy,lol. On 12-9-14 this buck gave the ultimate sacrifice. He gave me his fresh flesh to chew on, and as if that wasn't enough, he "threw me a bone" in the form of an antler! I got caught up in the excitement of the kill and never snapped an ATL of the antler alone so I had to crop one of the field photos it was in where he dumped it. I started getting this skull cleaned up today and I have plans to incorporate my opening day 8pt skull with this one in a different kind of euro..... we'll see how that works out. I should probably wait until ML wraps up before I start hiking, but I'm gonna have a hard time not getting out there tomorrow to see what's laying around. Well, here is horn #1 for 2015 for me! Good luck to all the shed hunters this season, and keep those cameras handy for those unexpected encounters! Antlers- 1 Sets- 0 Dead doe/fawns- 0 Dead bucks- 0

Todays morning sit was the last and no deer...rain coming and I need to get the doe taken care of... I hunted pretty hard this season considering the knee and torn calf muscle........ no luck in gun or early bow but late bow( last 2 weeks of early) got me the 6pt and yesterday got me the doe in picture... I heard her come in behind me and was afraid to move...finally I slowly had my head turned to see her and thought crap another fawn...I'd only been in the stand 10 mins and it was 3:40....made scense She was all spooky and on alert...then she walked through brush under my stand and headed straight away from me at a good pace toward the soybean plot...I then realized she was and adult...got the cross hairs on her and prayed for a stop and turn....at 20 yrds she did, but it was a sharp quartering away...I have to release an arrow every night into a 8in. wide target and was confident in the shot placement...squeezed the trigger and she jumped 3ft and ran...5 seconds and 40 yards later..if that.... she was done and still...biggest blood trail I've ever had...went in ribs behind rt shoulder and exited where her neck meets the shoulder on left side...lungs and arteries ...found the bolt 5ft past where she stood...thanks WNYBuck hunter for mentioning G5's so often...took both deer with them and they left short recoveries dropping well in, not only sight but shooting range...lol Correction typed time wrong ...3:40 not 3:10

We got him! We hunted him several days last week with no sightings. Saturday morning, I went to hunt a different property with my son, & my girlfriend hunted the stand at my uncle's. On her way out after the morning hunt, she noticed fresh tracks in the snow with an obvious drag mark, leading up into the bedding area. She called me, & we decided to go after him. The plan was that she would post at the end of the thicket, and I would ease through, trying to gently push him to her. My son went with her because it's illegal for a kid to drive, and I wanted to be as sneaky as possible. I slowly worked into the thicket, zig zagging back and forth toward her. The snow was soft, and I made very little noise. About 1/3 of the way through, I looked up to see him watching me from his bed, 20 yards from me. I cocked the hammer and killed him with a neck shot. He never got out of the bed. Walking up to him, I realized what a mess he was. I'm pretty sure it was a gunshot wound on his shoulder. I could smell his wound from 15 feet downwind, it was full of gangrene. His neck was nothing but skin and bone, His shoulders & hips were thin and his spine was sticking out. It was sad to see such an animal in that shape. When I went to pull him out, the antlers both pulled off with very little force. She said that a stressed or injured deer will lose their antlers early. It definitely wasn't any kind of hunt to be proud of, but I know we did the right thing. I'm glad he's not out there like that anymore. This was a real reminder for me of what can happen when we make a poor shot. Obviously the meat is no good, but that's not important on this one. He's definitely not a 10 point like I thought, but like I said, he was in very thick brush when I first saw him. I don't care at all about the rack anyway. Thankful my killer girlfriend was paying attention, and that our efforts paid off.

Took this doe sunday AM... poked my way up a pine knob suspecting a deer to be bedded down. Sure enough I saw a head looking at me. She stood up and I pulled the trigger. Took out heart and both lungs and still ran 50 yards. I thought it was perfectly broadside but she had an exit wound under the front shoulder. I had one day to muzzleload hunt and it paid off.

It appears that way. My first season hunting as a 22 year old former Marine I was at my father in laws cabin with his 13 friends from work. My brother in law and I were with a couple of guys on our trail when one pulled up. We saw the buck and he shot and the deer took off. He said, "damn, I missed" Not knowing any better I started walking away when my brother in law grabbed my arm and said, "Hang on, I want to make sure that deer wasn't hit." We waited 10 minutes and went to where the deer was and there was a bunch of hair and little blood, but he'd hit the deer. We tracked for about 200 yards finding more blood and where it laid down. We went about 30-40 yards and the deer stood up and my brother in law, who was in front of me shot it killing it. By the time we got it field dressed and dragged to a trail it was well past dark. The old guys were eating dinner when we got back for the bike and my father in law asked where we'd been. I took out the heart from my pocket (in a baggie) and put it on the guys plate that shot it telling him that the liver would be in there too but that was where he'd hit it. He never came back. I was fine with that

Buddy just took this in 7s

Curmudgeon - Lots of folks on this site disagree with others. Most of us are civil. MR MVP usually presents his opinion and facts. I guess he points out that he believes those that disagree with him are lacking in intellect. But your suggestion of moderate read / approve some ones post before they are posted is a classic example of what is wrong in our society. I’d rather hear all sides. I see no need for censorship

I think it should be posted everywhere. I think the embarassment is a far better deterent than a $200 fine is. If they could add a points system, like drivers licenses, with suspension or revocation limits, then we might be getting somewhere in detering people from breaking the laws.

Well said Mr VJP. Together we stand, divided we fall. It's as simple as that. It's really sad to see a post like this.

I'd proabbly weigh your opinion more if you were able to read numbers. 6:22...or 6:41? Making the 30 minute rule change topic valid. Thus, not a troll thread.

Words don't cover it.

I got to stand at 3:30...3:45 she had a G5 go thru her at 20 yards..ran 40 and dropped ...Talk about last min.....

One photo of him.

luck on the last afternoon! I've been reading on here for quite a while thought it was about time to join and start posting. Good info here - thanks to all

I'm done.........I hunted hard yesterday and this morning and have nothing to show for it. Yesterday was a full day in Canadice/Lima and I should have killed a doe in the afternoon. I had 5 doe/fawns in a field with a couple small bucks. They mingled around for ten minutes and I was trying to sort out the doe from the fawns with my binos. I'd pick out a doe, put the glasses down and pick up the gun, she'd move and I'd start over. Then a buck would go behind her or a fawn would be in front of her. After a bit they fed over about 30 yards further south and my shot was screened by some brush. I had her dead and dressed, just waiting on them to feed another 20 yards further south when all of a sudden they all spooked off and never stopped until they were 240 yards away! My best shot and it should have been a gimme was at 140 yards and I had a perfect rest. That was it. It was 4:10pm and I was left holding a wish in one had and my________in the other hand. This morning I hunted East Aurora for a few hours and saw zip.......................... The Fat Lady has sang her song and the curtain has fallen on another great season.

I'm trying to figure out who would say no and why....

Going home to fry up some spam and 5 tags for dinner

Who do little for gun rights...

This is like asking someone why they like life. A true hunter can't really explain why they love it. I have never considered hunting a "sport", It's a part of who I am. There's just no simple answer to this question. Many of us would need a book to explain it.

I agree with the portion I made red here. It is what it is though, we just have to get over it. The orange? I have owned, been an Admin/Global Mod/Mod on many sites and forums. Being staff and being an OWNER are two very different issues. I have owned a few sites, still own a current site, with about 4 sub forums/sites.. We do not put anyone on the "Mod" list. I warn, if the warning doesn't decrease we delete the members account, but allow them to return if they keep within the rules. If they come back, and still act like an idiot, we ban their ISP, IP, and email ( if you don't own a website or understand what it really takes to own and run a site, not just drop on the web and go, you might not understand that ). But, we would never stop a member post from going out. I agree the Mods here should get more involved, but a site with this much activity, approving the posts from all the people with different "opinions" would take all day for 5 people. Not censorship, but a bit more moderation. I have to agree here. the NRA is mainly a political force that's supposed to help gun owners rights. It doesn't always work out the way we want, but it's better to support them then do nothing.

I think a "points ststem" would be a deterant. Accumulate points for bad behavior, lose points if you keep your nose clean. Just like a druver's license. As far as the fine & costs being too lenient? My cell pone bill is $70 a month, I buy my own phone & it cost me about $50. A one time expense. All I use is talk & text. My wife & daughter pay $50 each for data because they have smart phones. They pay their own way on that. My phone, DSL & DirectTV bills combined are less than $300 a month. (I'm getting raped on DSL due to lack of competition) All of the $$$ I have spent on stands, hunting clothes, guns, etc will give me years of service. I do not run out & buy the latest tecnoloy when what already have serves me well. Probably less than $20 a month amortised over the life of useage & my guns will serve my son for his lifetime if he takes care of them. One of them is already 115 years old & still is plenty accurate & lethal. I am on a fixed income & my wife's salary is only modest. My income is about 30% of what it was 5 years ago. $300 out of my monthly budget would be very hard to squezze out for a on etime expendature that would have no lasting usage.

They deserve the embarrassment for committing a crime. Maybe they will think twice before doing it again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't know if that one counts Wooly.. Kind of like referring to the mother of your children a milf.. Lol

No, there is no litmus test for this forum that involves anything to do with the NRA. However, I do have a problem with not supporting the largest and most effective pro-gun/pro-hunting national organization in the U.S. I understand that not everyone agrees with every one of the principles and goals of the NRA. But, I also understand that it is not necessary to support 100% of any organization to recognize that the over-all results of what they do are in keeping with my ideals and goals. That is the one thing that keeps us from being a viable political force as gun owners is that we find any excuse, to the point of nit-picking, just to keep from joining. It becomes a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you are waiting to find a gun/hunting organization that you have absolutely no issues with, then I guess you have resigned yourself to never becoming a part of the pro-gun lobby. As for myself, I know the required power of being organized to safeguard shooter's rights, because those who would remove those rights are highly organized and highly financed and have become highly effective at whittling away at our rights. You cannot take on a well organized opponent without being well organized yourself. Those who refuse to be organized are simply tag-a-longs who are willing to let others carry the load so they can free-load off their backs. As to the 20% figure that you quoted, while not taking that number as gospel, I will simply say that if that number is anywhere near correct, you have just highlighted the amazing level of apathy among gun owners. As for me I choose not to be part of the apathetic. Your choice is your own.

Nope not even the one who took an illegal deer off of private property. Our fines do nothing to deter people..

This is a great question and all the above are great answers... Let's see, first and foremost " I don't know". I can't explain why I love it so much... Obviously, the time I spend with my Brother and Dad is incredible, time away from the everyday struggle and craze of life, time to truly be alone and think through life's questions. Am I being a good Father, Son, Brother, Husband and so forth? Also, I do enjoy the meat, the competiveness, the work involved. To quote Tom Hanks, "It's supposed to be hard. If it were easy, everyone would do it." Finally, I really believe it's built in us humans to be successful, especially Males. For lack of better words, I think it's testosterone and are determination to "provide", even though today it isn't necessary for most of us. I would sincerely and genuinely love for the ladies to respond to this question.... Not to sound cliché or too deep but it has made me a better person. I've learned how to be more patient, I've learned there are times to be soft and gentle but that there are also times when severe and harsh actions will be necessary. It illustrates true meaning of life and how to respect it. Most anti-hunters would never understand this and come to think of it, that's probably why I don't personally know any.

3:45 big ole doe doe 40 yrd run and drop....

One more

Crossbows were legal implements during this season, but we used something else. This Adirondack buck (town of Fine) was the heaviest and probably the oldest buck I have ever taken. The 8-point rack was decent, but not huge. The teeth were so worn, that most of the acorns stuffing his belly were barely chewed. I will ask the taxidermist for the exact age when I talk to him next. I probably would not have gotten him mounted were he not the first buck and my in-laws new camp, and all the "special" help I had in the harvest and recovery. For the second consecutive time this season, the good Lord guided the shot to exactly the right place (diagonally thru the rib cage from about 300 yards, just below the backstraps to not ruin any of the "good stuff"). The 150 grain Federal 30/06 bullet out of the Ruger M77 put him down in his tracks.

12-9-14 Late season success on the timbered edge of a goldenrod field. I sat on my stump daydreaming about shed season and all the antlers I'd be scooping up from the field behind me in the coming months. I had a sudden snap back to reality at 3pm when all of a sudden out of nowhere movement woke me up 25yds in front of me. This guy was casually following behind a young doe fawn and she led him right by me at 15yds before the ML swept him off his feet. He piled up about 40yds away, and when I arrived at his carcass I discovered he knocked an antler off when he crashed. I grabbed a few quick picures, and with sunset fast approaching I made a quick run home to grab a sled to make the drag out a little easier and protect his antler that was still attached. At home I realized I had this bucks antlers from last season which I included in these pics, and that I killed him just over 100yds away from where I had found those antlers last spring. This was the kind of hunt that made me thankful I could appreciate some of the finer points of the hunt without the size of the antlers clouding my excitement over him!

Wildcat, you're right about that. You and your friends have the market on crazy cornered.

No, your hospital bills were inflated to cover those who did not pay. Health Insurance costs rose due to those increased hospital bills, Lawyers, Lawsuits and Government Regulation. You seem to have very little idea how "imperfect" ObamaCare is. Not surprising though. People who want "hope & change" will grasp at any straw offered to them.

I'm sure you are sold out... with guys that have trouble killing a deer under fair chase rules... or inside NY legal shooting time... just like many of the NY hunters who find it necessary to kill deer outside legal shooting hours. I never said hunters didn't do it... just giving my opinion why... their lack of ability to kill a deer during the legal time. Glad they can find a shooting sport they enjoy... Just think how many more deer we could kill after dark.. just like coyote hunting... the safety record there is even better than deer hunting.

Curmudgeon, I'm with you and the other Non-NRA but pro-gun and pro hunting hunters. I also agree that it doesn't help to recruit new hunters who may not care about or agree with positions of the NRA and therefore not want to support the NRA if there constantly and rudely told they have to. People don't typically want to be members of groups if they feel they are not welcome and folks just starting out trying to meet with others and get into hunting would be hard pressed to get passed that. I'd much rather put my financial support to hunting organizations such as Ducks Unlimited, RGS, etc.

A holes ain't fooling anyone or least not me with the shotgun in these hills. Single shots are kabooms and not ml. And the multiple shots says it all

What you are calling a litmus test is simply opposing views to some of the more controversial topics that are raised. That is all a logical part of a public internet forum. People have some deep seated opinions that they feel quite passionate about. Not everyone responds in a civil fashion, and that is unfortunate, but when you get into sensitive areas, you never know what tone the opposition replies will take. Frankly, when you start a topic that bashes the only effective pro-gun organization that gunners have, you should not be surprised in a forum consisting of a huge percent of gun owners that some in that forum are going to have some pretty strong opinions that do not agree with yours. That is not a litmus test, that is just common sense. I will agree that no one is going to agree with every position that the NRA (or any organization) takes. It is silly to think that you should or even could. But like I said before. If you are withholding support from every organization that you have some differences with then the result is that you simply are out of the system when it comes to protection of gun owner's rights. And if that is your position, then you are leaving your gun rights hanging out there waiting for the anti-gun machine to inevitably lop them off. I for one understand the impatience for people who simply ride the coat-tails of the NRA members and let them do the work while the nit-pickers reap the benefits. And I can also understand how that impatience might boil over into hostility. That's not bullying, and that's not a litmus test. That's simple human nature. Try for a moment to imagine if a member of PETA joined this forum and started bad-mouthing hunting. What do you suppose the reaction would be. If you can understand that, you should be able to understand how those that are invested in organized gun advocacy and pro-gun lobbying feel about someone slamming the one organization that unquestionably has been the solitary force beating back annual draconian gun legislation that is piled into the agenda of every session of government. What exactly have all these unaffiliated gun owners done to stop gun legislation besides whine about the NRA? Only one word comes to mind and that is "nothing". So those that do nothing are bashing those that do something. You can't complain about a reaction when you pick a fight.

I shot a doe Sunday evening same thing. Actually caught her bedded under a hemlock and she never had a chance to stand up witch was a first for me. She appeared to be bedded all day there were no fresh tracks leading to her bed and her belly was almost empty but she was packed solid with poop. I would have to say she bedded down early am and didn't move all day I shot her just after 4:10 p.m

I'm in 9h. Send him my way : ). Yup , umbrella just went up.

Comparing a trespasser to a rapist or miolester? Thats taking it a little far, dont you think? 99% of the time, the crimes are pretty much victimless, and they should be treated as such. Yes, I understand that someone trapsing through your property sucks and is a pain in the ass, but unless they are stealing or damaging things, they arent hurting you physically or financially. If they are caught stealing or damaging property, then additional charges should be held against them.

Maybe the after hours shooting is a winner/loser mentality... kind of like the guy that thinks the basket ought to count after the buzzer goes of in basketball when clearly the ball was still in his hands when time expired... the last resort to being the winner of the game when you are unable to get it done during the regular game time... maybe those hunters should resign themselves to paying for one of those high fence deer hunts where they are guaranteed a deer... then they can "win" every time and aren't tied down by the idea of fair chase.

I don't understand the comment. Is there supposedly something stupid about knowing the terms of the law? What exactly is "so stupid"? I don't get it.

Go wooly!

I can't wait to see some pictures of some fresh bone ill bet you find one or two tomorrow. Good luck ill be following this thread it's one of my favorites each year.

You are not a member of the NRA, you're Anti-NRA, besides being anti-lead ammo, anti-hunting contest, anti-black rifle and large magazine capacity (if you agree with the links you supplied), apparently anti-freedom of choice and anti-2nd Amendment as well if you agree with the links you posted. There seems to be a huge pro-control motive in your being though. There is no litmus test to be on here at all. It is a hunting forum open to all, even trolls who just stir the pot with their posts. You don't have to support the NRA. But there is a big difference between non-support and being a propagandist trying to turn hunters against the NRA and undermine the organization. After careful inspection of your past posts, and viewing the links you supplied above, I think it's quite clear you are an elitist in every area of hunting and gun ownership. You have strong opinions on who is a "respectable" hunter and now challenge "respectability" of certain firearms enthusiasts. I can only assume you are also self loathing, as you also confessed to being anti-zealot. I can tolerate non-NRA members, but an anti-NRA bias is just contemptible. To quote Vinny Gambini: "I'm done with this guy!"

One thing is for sure, I am not afraid of a blaze orange law. I can imagine a lot of slippery-slope scenarios most of which are completely ridiculous and fictitious. There is always some danger in randomly entering into that kind of mentality too. But I do choose my fights, and this one doesn't sit real high on my priorities. Anyway, I suppose there is something to be said for the Darwin style removal of idiots to improve the species ..... lol.

Fair question. Normally, I'm ok with a deer getting by me. It sucks when you can't close the deal, but there's always another day. I've come close on big deer before and had them give me the slip. This one hurts because I know he's out there suffering and I was really close to putting him out of it. Do I want to kill a big buck? Hell yeah, and anybody who says they don't is lying. But, I don't see finishing off a gimped buck as any kind of trophy or accomplishment. I think it's just the right thing to do. I don't care what the deer is, if it's wounded that bad I think we're obligated to finish it. It sucks to see any deer like that. I don't think the size of the rack has much to do with the way I feel about him.

Went into this sit after a big 8 with a tall caramel rack which was to be my last sit for bow.... Saw 2 other bucks and a doe n 2 fawns ... Didn't see the big 8 n was about to call it quits n hit the can a few times , couple minutes later here he comes trottin to me nose to the ground trying to figure out where his girl is... Not the biggest I've seen from the stand but he'll do ... Been a tough bow season for me , saw a lot of deer but for one reason or another never came together... Hadn't gotten my usual doe this year so I'm happy to have some meat in the freezer! Big boys need watch out next Saturday! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 point 11/2 at 420

Took this buck with my Carbon Express Crossbow Monday morning 3 November. It is my first cross bow deer. I initially resisted the move to a cross bow but felt I was an interesting piece of weaponry and liked what I heard about its reputation for clean kills. I hunted two very enjoyable days in the ADK's last week but Monday was my first day hunting in the Southern zone this year near our present home. Got my butt into the woods early in morning in spite of 15- 20 degree F chill factors, NW wind 12 -15. Climbed into my tree stand at 0630. Didn't see a thing, 1000 hours came and went with no sign of deer and I started thinking about coming out of the tree stand and heading down to the house to dig some potatoes for supper. But told myself " the deer could be moving this morning because it is cold, you lazy comfort loving son of gun, you are going to stay in this tree at least another hour!" At about 1030 I saw a medium sized doe moving coming toward the stand. She looks back over her shoulder. Suddenly a buck emerges! He is on her trail! He proceeds closer to the stand but is moving quickly. At 20 yards I made a "verbal buck grunt". He stops. I fire an arrow into his rib cage and hear a "thwack". The buck runs to the west and I see him slow down as he goes out of view. I wait 10 minutes and get out of my tree stand. I locate the arrow that I fired and determine it has passed completely through the animal. I believe the arrow took out both lungs. I walk to where I saw him last and find him there only about 35-40 yards from the shot. I said a prayer of thanks for the animal and the way it all went down so quickly for the deer.