Talk About Butt Covering

[Doc]

We need guys/girls like Early on the forum..Keeps us from being BORED...

Actually, I was going for the sarcasm ..... lol.

[Skillet]

Early, I really pity any children influenced by your 'teaching'. They are screwed. I'm sorry you're such a bitter, misguided person. I'll pray for you.

[ants]

Early is a fraud. I will bet money that she is not a hunter she is just an angry leftist who goes on sites like this to try and bash people who do not agree with her far left views. Am I getting warm there Shirly??

[Skillet]

Early is a fraud. I will bet money that she is not a hunter she is just an angry leftist who goes on sites like this to try and bash people who do not agree with her far left views. Am I getting warm there Shirly??

I bet you're right Ants. And we keep falling for it.

[nyantler]

Agree with GreeneHunter....Sending your kids to Catholic School is, indeed, laughable! Or, maybe it is just the opposite: I mean....who would entrust their children's education to an institution that protects/supports pedophiles?

Hmm.. you might want to check your facts on the number of teachers convicted of pedophelia in America.

[virgil]

Here we go again! Early opens mouth, inserts foot...LOL... early you must also hate homesexuals for their acts of pedophilia... you must have heard of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)... How could homesexuals let that happen?? You must be outraged by that as well!! Don't you think that homosexuals are an evil cult?? Like I said before, you really need to read your posts before you click the post button.

I'll agree that Early seems to be just looking to pick a fight with this thread- not that I necessarily disagree with any of his/her statements. Anyway, Antler your repsonse is ignorant and absurd. Lumping together homosexuals and pedophiles is classic homophobia and ingnorance. Homosexuality is not a crime- pedophilia is. Homosexuals do not commit sexual assaults against children- pedophiles do. If your comparison were valid, then all male heterosexuals could be blamed for any sexual assaults against woman by men.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Virgil you totallly missed his point. He was illustrating that it is just as crazy to say all Catholics support pedophiles becasue of actions of a few as it is to say all Homosexuals are pedophiles because of actions of a few. It is just that homosexuality is such a endeared topic for the left they would never make that absurd tie. But since many of them are so anti Christian (especially Catholic) they don't take issue making that assumption.

[Pygmy]

Actually, I was going for the sarcasm ..... lol.

No problem Doc...I consider sarcasm a valid form of lingual communication... Actually, I regard it as somewhat of an ART FORM, and sometimes I use it myself.. Like when I talk to Growie...

[NFA-ADK]

[First-light]

Well, looky here ..... this trolling stuff really works. Early got into his second page already. Say thank-you Early. He is indeed a lovely addition to this site..... lol.

It's offensive, has nothing to do with hunting and if I was a first timer on this site and came across this thread it may turn me off. If you guys don't lock it maybe John will?

[Grouse]

Here we go again! Early opens mouth, inserts foot...LOL... early you must also hate homesexuals for their acts of pedophilia... you must have heard of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)... How could homesexuals let that happen?? You must be outraged by that as well!! Don't you think that homosexuals are an evil cult?? Like I said before, you really need to read your posts before you click the post button.

I'll agree that Early seems to be just looking to pick a fight with this thread- not that I necessarily disagree with any of his/her statements. Anyway, Antler your repsonse is ignorant and absurd. Lumping together homosexuals and pedophiles is classic homophobia and ingnorance. Homosexuality is not a crime- pedophilia is. Homosexuals do not commit sexual assaults against children- pedophiles do. If your comparison were valid, then all male heterosexuals could be blamed for any sexual assaults against woman by men.

Virgil, you totally ignored the reference to NAMBLA in your reply. Why is that? That organization does exist, they do promote sex with minors and they are supported by the majority of the homosexual community. Antler has made a very good analogy to the original post bashing the Catholic Church. Ignorant, homophobic and absurd? Perhaps you better research what NAMBLA is and what they preach. It is a crime to have sex with a minor, of either sex. And that also goes for heterosexual males who have sex with females that are MINORS!

[WNYBuckHunter]

I doubt John will lock it, hes probably sharing NFA's popcorn lol.

Honestly, the only thing that could be considered offensive about this thread is the smell of early's opinon lol

[virgil]

Virgil, you totally ignored the reference to NAMBLA in your reply. Why is that? That organization does exist, they do promote sex with minors and they are supported by the majority of the homosexual community.

Prove the bolded part of that statement. It's utterly false and you should be ashamed to be so ignorant.

[steve863]

Virgil, you totally ignored the reference to NAMBLA in your reply. Why is that? That organization does exist, they do promote sex with minors and they are supported by the majority of the homosexual community.

Prove the bolded part of that statement. It's utterly false and you should be ashamed to be so ignorant.

Have to agree with Virgil here. If the majority of gays were to support such a thing, there standing in society would be far below where it presently is.

I just find it funny how Early frequently attacks catholics around here. It's one thing making a joke, but he does seem to have a very serious hatred towards them. Whatever. My wife happens to be a chatecism teacher and I know for a fact that the church has taken safeguards far beyond any organization to assure that such things don't happen again. Absolutely NO adult is allowed to assist in activities in a catholic church or school without being trained and certified and having attended classes that discuss such crimes. A parent cannot even assist on a classroom field trip without having completed such a course. Also the new rules are that NO priest is ever allowed to be alone with a child without another certified adult present. What happened in the past was surely not a good thing, but the church HAS done a lot to help prevent such things from happening again.

[ants]

Notice how she bashes someone or something that she doesnt agree with and after one or two replys she just slithers away?

I gotta stop falling for it!! We all should

[Grouse]

Virgil, you totally ignored the reference to NAMBLA in your reply. Why is that? That organization does exist, they do promote sex with minors and they are supported by the majority of the homosexual community.

Prove the bolded part of that statement. It's utterly false and you should be ashamed to be so ignorant.

OK Virgil, per your request, I will enlighten your ignorance.

In 1994 NAMBLA, along with many members of the Gay Liberation Front participated in the "The Spirit of Stonewall" march which commenorated the 1969 Stonewall Riots.^[25]

In 1994, Pat Califia^[26] argued that politics played an important role in the gay community's rejection of NAMBLA

An article showing how NAMBLA was well supported, but shunned for political reasons. The agenda is still there and being promoted by LGBT groups.

http://www.allameric...ize-pedophilia/

Note the author's pointing out of similarities in political strategy for this agenda as well.

The current movement to legalize and normalize pedophilia may seem unrealistic to some. I have yet to have someone agree with me when I claim that it will be legal in the next 25-30 years. But there are many, as I have detailed here, who see pedophiles as an oppressed minority. They see the road to freedom as being the same road homosexuals marched down. The first step would be the removal of pedophilia as a mental illness, a move the APA has already considered. Then, using the research of Kinsey and others mentioned above, the move would be made to abolish the age of consent. With the seeming support of science, this could be possible and it would effectively legalize pedophilia. With the legal burden lifted, the effort would then shift to normalization and acceptance. This is done by pedophiles casting themselves as a minority, a victim of a culture that rejects them. March after march makes the sight of a fifty year old man giving a six year old boy a deep tongue kiss nothing more than a sign of America’s tolerance, regardless of who gets hurt.

Harry Hay - Founder of the Gay Rights Movement- An article describing his support for NAMBLA, in spite of pressure to be quiet about it.

http://www.bostonpho...ts/02511115.htm

He was, at times, a serious political embarrassment, as when he consistently advocated the inclusion of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in gay-pride parades. In 1994, he refused to march with the official parade commemorating the Stonewall riots in New York because it refused NAMBLA a place in the event. Instead, he joined a competing march, dubbed The Spirit of Stonewall, which included NAMBLA as well as many of the original Gay Liberation Front members. Even many of Hay’s more dedicated supporters could not side with him on this. But from Hay’s point of view, silencing any part of the movement because it was disliked or hated by mainstream culture was both a moral failing and a seriously mistaken political strategy. In Harry’s eyes, such a stance failed to grapple seriously with the reality that there would always be some aspect of the gay movement to which mainstream culture would object. By pretending the movement could be made presentable by eliminating a specific "objectionable" group — drag queens and leather people were the objects of similar purges in the 1970s and 1980s — gay leaders not only pandered to the idea of respectability but betrayed their own community.

Note the line about "PRETENDING". The NAMBLA agenda is only rejected where it is in political view. LGBT groups play politics with the NAMBLA agenda in order to advance their ideology. NAMBLA is supported, not rejected by the homosexual community, in the private settings that are not in the media limelight.

When Hay died, neither of the long and laudatory obits in the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times mentioned his unyielding support for NAMBLA or even his deeply radical credentials and vision. That's pure suppression of the facts. The MSM continues to do the same thing today in it's support of the LGBT agenda.

Another source.

http://www.voiceofre...ctivist-closet/

I could go on and on, but I doubt you would be impressed, no matter what evidence you were presented with.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Grouse

[5.9cummins]

Ive been looking for that.

[Grouse]

Another article of interest.

http://www.jesus-is-...bla_exposed.htm

"If the ACLU wins in the thrust of their arguments, it means the state has no right to say that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a 13-year-old child." Kline also fears that an ACLU victory will make it difficult for the state to enforce laws against polygamy, incest, bestiality, and other sexual perversions. The effort to abolish "age of consent" laws has been a long-time goal of homosexual activists. The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent."

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/nambla.html

Activists in the early 1980s mustered a battery of recent research to demonstrate that young people were capable of informed consent to sex, even of soliciting sex themselves. They claimed a long history and pan-cultural relevance for intergenerational sex, and argued that the benefits of such relations far outweighed their potential abuses.

Initially, NAMBLA won considerable support for its efforts from the gay left. Differential age of consent laws for homosexuals and heterosexuals were then (and continue to be) used to target gay sex in jurisdictions around the world, including ones in the United States. Equalization of age of consent laws has been a major part of the struggle for gay rights in the United Kingdom and elsewhere. Some libertarians rallied to this cause, as did such leading feminist writers as Pat Califia, Kate Millett, and Gayle Rubin.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Grouse

[fasteddie]

Virgil, you totally ignored the reference to NAMBLA in your reply. Why is that? That organization does exist, they do promote sex with minors and they are supported by the majority of the homosexual community.

Prove the bolded part of that statement. It's utterly false and you should be ashamed to be so ignorant.

Virgil, you totally ignored the reference to NAMBLA in your reply. Why is that? That organization does exist, they do promote sex with minors and they are supported by the majority of the homosexual community.

Prove the bolded part of that statement. It's utterly false and you should be ashamed to be so ignorant.

Virgil --- I normally don't agree with you but you are right on this one !

[Grouse]

Their words say one thing, but their actions reveal the truth. Elimination of age of consent laws are part of the worldwide gay agenda.

[BornToHunt]

Hmm.. you might want to check your facts on the number of teachers convicted of pedophelia in America.

This is so true antler I bet it happens in public schools a lot more often that in catholic schools.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Sorry Grouse, but you are wrong on this. Pointing out the statements, etc of a few individuals does not constitute the majority.

Thats the same as saying all Catholics support or enable pedophilia.

[Felonious_Monk]

Raised Catholic, turned agnostic here. Stereotyping any of an entire group, based on the actions of a small minority is wrong. I simply don't understand the rabid hatred for religion some people harbor. Religion is not for me. Then again, neither are Salami and peanut butter sandwiches. What do I do about it? Avoid both. Crikey, in the last month here on Long Island we have had a custodian and a math teacher arrested on possession of child pornography charges. The math teacher's collection was evidently so large it took up an entire evidence van and the back seat of a car. Does this mean that, simply via association, every single employee of the public school system is a kiddie porn lover? Of course it doesn't. Should people begin a rabid, hate-filled, foaming-at-the-mouth campaign against teachers? The very idea is ridiculous.

So, why the double standard? Don't like religion? Don't practice it. That's a pretty simple solution. Spouting off vitriolic nonsense and screaming that the Catholic Church is an evil organization based on the actions of a few of its members or officials makes you look worse than it does them. You come off as an arrogant, irrational, miscreant with an axe to grind.

Hey, OP, how big's your kiddie porn collection? I mean obviously if as others have mentioned, you are a former teacher, and we know public school employees have collected kiddie porn, then you too must also collect kiddie porn, right? So, how big's your collection?

[nyantler]

Here we go again! Early opens mouth, inserts foot...LOL... early you must also hate homesexuals for their acts of pedophilia... you must have heard of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)... How could homesexuals let that happen?? You must be outraged by that as well!! Don't you think that homosexuals are an evil cult?? Like I said before, you really need to read your posts before you click the post button.

I'll agree that Early seems to be just looking to pick a fight with this thread- not that I necessarily disagree with any of his/her statements. Anyway, Antler your repsonse is ignorant and absurd. Lumping together homosexuals and pedophiles is classic homophobia and ingnorance. Homosexuality is not a crime- pedophilia is. Homosexuals do not commit sexual assaults against children- pedophiles do. If your comparison were valid, then all male heterosexuals could be blamed for any sexual assaults against woman by men.

Just like Catholisim is not a crime and pedophilia is... and you are not getting my point.. early's statement about relating isolated insidents with catholics as a whole is ignorant and absurd.. you always assume that when I post something to make a point that it is what I think.. I was pointing out how rediculous he is to lump any group with isolated incident and gave exampes of other instances that occor that he has no problem with based on his views.. You should be talking to him not me.

Edited September 4, 2012 by nyantler

[nyantler]

Grouse.. thanks for posting what I am too exhausted to post myself... defending NAMBLA for any reason and saying they are not a homesexual group is something I didn't think we needed to prove to anyone here.. but I guess I was wrong.. thanks for the help.