verminater71 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (II) EVERY MANUFACTURER SHALL CODE ANY AMMUNITION FOR HANDGUNS ANDASSAULT WEAPONS SOLD OR MANUFACTURED AFTER JANUARY FIRST, TWO THOUSANDFOURTEEN. B. THE VENDOR REGISTRY. EVERY VENDOR OF AMMUNITION SHALL REGISTER WITHTHE NEW YORK STATE POLICE IN A MANNER PRESCRIBED BY THE NEW YORK STATEPOLICE, AND SHALL RECORD THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IN A FORMATPRESCRIBED BY THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE: (I) THE DATE OF THE TRANSACTION; (II) THE NAME OF THE TRANSFEREE; (III) THE PURCHASER'S DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER OR OTHER GOVERNMENTISSUED IDENTIFICATION CARD NUMBER; (IV) THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THE PURCHASER; (V) THE UNIQUE IDENTIFIER OF ALL HANDGUN AMMUNITION OR BULLETS TRANS-FERRED; (VI) THE CALIBER OF THE BULLET; AND (VII) ANY OTHER INFORMATION DETERMINED NECESSARY BY THE NEW YORK STATEPOLICE. EVERY VENDOR SHALL MAINTAIN THESE RECORDS ON THEIR PREMISES FOR APERIOD OF AT LEAST THREE YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE RECORDED PURCHASE. 2. TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE OR PRACTICAL, THE AMMUNITION CODINGSYSTEM DATABASE SHALL BE BUILT WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF EXISTING FIREARMSDATABASES. THE AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE SHALL BE OPERATIONAL NOLATER THAN JANUARY FIRST, TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN. 3. PRIVACY OF INDIVIDUALS IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE. ACCESS TOINFORMATION IN THE AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE IS RESERVED FOR KEYLAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL AND TO BE RELEASED ONLY IN CONNECTION WITH ACRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. 4. THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE DATABASE SHALL BE FUNDED BY THE AMMUNI-TION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE FUND ESTABLISHED PURSUANT TO SECTION NINE-TY-ONE-G OF THE STATE FINANCE LAW. VENDORS SHALL CHARGE AN ADDITIONAL$.005 PER BULLET OR ROUND OF AMMUNITION TO THE PURCHASER. SUCH MONEYSSHALL BE DEPOSITED INTO THE FUND. 5. ANY PERSON IN POSSESSION OF NON-CODED AMMUNITION MUST DISPOSE OFSUCH AMMUNITION NO LATER THAN JANUARY FIRST, TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN. 6. ANY PERSON WITH A VALID HUNTING LICENSE SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM THISSECTION, FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS COMMENCING THREE YEARS FROM THEEFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS SECTION just the thought of this, will keep ammo shelves empty http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/A8108-2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Scary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 What about reloaders?Have to love it when the "smart leaders" get together to set some rules in motion for us simple minded people of the state.During one of their swell "get to know the SAFE ACT meeting" they told the whole group that it was legal to go out of state and get all the ammo you wanted,how does that work if you cant own "non coded ammo" they don't know what the hell they are doing much less what to do to make thing safer in this state.Screw them I am not getting rid of loading equipment,ammo or my livelihood!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Did anyone think for one minute that the Safe Act was the end of the attacks on gun owner's rights? Well, pay attention, because they are still revelling in the success of having stuck it to those evil gun owners, and can't wait to continue the campaign while they still have a hot hand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I will not comply! That's all I have to say about that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 So people (law abiding people) who have hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of ammo have to use it or loose it by a certain date and buy all new stuff??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 apparently last line says you can keep it for 3 years with Valid hunting license, hmmm is that a money grab to (encourage even non hunter to buy a hunting license)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 They can suck my balls... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Ball ammunition that is... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loworange88 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 So is this law now or just a proposed Bill? I see it is referred to codes, but what does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmkay Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 What about reloaders?Have to love it when the "smart leaders" get together to set some rules in motion for us simple minded people of the state.During one of their swell "get to know the SAFE ACT meeting" they told the whole group that it was legal to go out of state and get all the ammo you wanted,how does that work if you cant own "non coded ammo" they don't know what the hell they are doing much less what to do to make thing safer in this state.Screw them I am not getting rid of loading equipment,ammo or my livelihood!! LOL me to! im not either!!! I will not comply! That's all I have to say about that. me either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greybeard Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 When was this passed ? Who will collect all the ammo that we don't use ? This is a reason why the Federal Government doesn't have to pass stricter gun laws, the States , cities, counties and local towns will do it for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminater71 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 When was this passed ? it wasn't passed yet, its waiting to be voted on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Its not a law, it would have to pass the senate, assembly and governors desk first, as well as go through all of the committees. Dont get your feathers ruffled yet, just start writing letters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmkay Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Is this a proposed law of something that already passed?....thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Its not a law, it would have to pass the senate, assembly and governors desk first, as well as go through all of the committees. Dont get your feathers ruffled yet, just start writing letters. I am wayyyyyyyy beyond ruffled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELMER J. FUDD Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Oh, I'll give them my ammo alright... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodjr55 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 It says that the law will only be used for pistols and assault rifle caliber weapons. And that the coding will be etched in the base of the round so reloaders will be able to reload. <- was not trying to sound supportive of this legislation at all. You know no ammo manufacturers will actually do this so that means it will be even more difficult to find ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Did anyone think for one minute that the Safe Act was the end of the attacks on gun owner's rights? Well, pay attention, because they are still revelling in the success of having stuck it to those evil gun owners, and can't wait to continue the campaign while they still have a hot hand. The SAFE act stuff was written so fast because it was old committee level bills and wording put all together and passed. We get a Sandy Hook, theater shooting, etc. here and "they" will be right back at it for more next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymerlo Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 this is a basic rewrite of the micro stamping bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 No, microstamping was where the firing pin of the gun stamped a number into the primer. There was also no limit on how long you could keep ammo. This is a whole new ball of wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Track Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 This will work well. Try defining an assault weapon caliber. You can get an AR in .22 or install a conversion kit in them - same gun different round. Pistol rounds - .45 isn't this the same bullet to reload for a 45-70 rifle? How will they differentiate between ammo sold for an M-1 Garrand sporting a bayonet w/folding stock and hunting rifle in 30-06. How are they going to track them once fired they get mangled on impact? What if you no long use that caliber and sell/give-away that ammo it is listed as yours? Does that mean it has to be sold/traded via an FFL dealer to update the records? I read a proposal to ban all 50 cal guns earlier this year - guess they don't know about black powder hunting requirements in this state. Face it, it is a microcosm of Washington DC - a lot persons who don't know anything about what they are writing these laws on. We have to keep the few intelligent persons in office for a reasonable term limit and give the rest the boot and never put them back in any office anywhere again. This bill has to be shot down on its absurdity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsuperg Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 and we just started getting restocked on ammo at gander. oh how this state blows!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminater71 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Its not a law, it would have to pass the senate, assembly and governors desk first, as well as go through all of the committees. Dont get your feathers ruffled yet, just start writing letters. yeah, that's what they said about the safe act, how did that work for us sorry way past ruffled feathers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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