grampy Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Also,with a high hit check for blood a bit higher too. Look a foot or two high on blades of grass,branches and underbrush. Anything the deer could have brushed against while moving through. Don't give up to easily! You owe it to the animal to do everything you can to find it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowWeldingJohn Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Well no Recovery was made. I had some friends come out and help look we followed the bloodtrail right into a corn field were we searched for her for 3 hours and found zip... So we beileve it was a flesh wound.. Thanks for all your help everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Well no Recovery was made. I had some friends come out and help look we followed the bloodtrail right into a corn field were we searched for her for 3 hours and found zip... So we beileve it was a flesh wound.. Thanks for all your help everyone. an 11" flesh wound? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I can't hold back, I just can't Sorry. He did not look as long as he said. You guys gave more energy with advice than he did searching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylormike Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Wow! Some people have to stop passing judgment. The Kid is 16 years old. Give him credit and stop being harsh. It's happen to all of us and if it hasn't, it will sometime. Young man is out in the woods hunting and then up late on this forum trying to get advice. We all learn from our mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I so hope I'm wrong. I don't want to be harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowWeldingJohn Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 an 11" flesh wound? lol 11? I thought I mentioned in a earlier post about 6 inchs of the arrow (Including broad head) was missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCKANDAQUARTER Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I see where this is going... Curtain call? Or the beginning? Edited October 29, 2014 by BUCKANDAQUARTER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Remorse after a lost deer is often overwhelming. I can relate bud. It's a sickening feeling. You are the only one who can know if you truly feel like you put in enough effort to recover the hit deer. I was rooting for ya and I'm gonna remain doing so. It happens. You did the right thing in asking for help. Get back in there and knock.one down! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Sorry to hear about the ordeal, John. If you think you gave the recovery effort your best shot, that's all you can do. We've all been there. Learn from the experience (a lot) and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Happened to me before, I thought my shot was perfect, ran down my stand and I was on my hands and knees following blood for over 8 hours, would have been my first buck and first archery kill. Worst feeling there is. Learn from it and get back out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotorooter23 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Well being 16 this is how you learn. Was also rooting for you. I, myself have been down this road and I am sure many ppl on this forum have been too. Seems like you did some good things in trying to recover the deer and hopefully you gave it your best shot. Remember you owe it to animal and yourself to give it the best you can. Edited October 29, 2014 by rotorooter23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowWeldingJohn Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 I can't hold back, I just can't Sorry. He did not look as long as he said. You guys gave more energy with advice than he did searching. Excuse me? What makes you think that? Look at the time on my posts, from the time I said I was heading back out to the time That I got back it had been 4 hours.. I did every Possible thing to my knowledge to retrive the deer, even had help from somone who has alot (50 years) more expiernce then I to help locate the animal. There was nothing more I could have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 A bit harsh Paula, don'y you think. This kid was out looking, using social media for suggestions. I like what he did. We always bitch about kids not getting involved in hunting, this kid goes the distance and then some. Good for you John. You gave it a good look and at times you just have to give up. Hopefully the deer lives and maybe you see it again. I'll use the word "failure" in a sense that you failed to find the deer. What you have learned from this experience you keep in that head of yours and use it next time you have to track. Good luck with the rest of the season! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCKANDAQUARTER Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 You asked for help from others, on the forum and in the field. That is a lot more than some hunters I know personally would do. They are hearty elusive animals... it could be dead, or it could have survived, who knows? Take what you can from the experience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefbkt Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Sorry you couldn't find her. Keep your chin up, everyone has made a bad shot, everyone. As long as you learn from your mistakes you will be better off. Now you can look for buzzards and listen for coyotes. Granted the meat is lost, but if you see or hear any of these it may be worth inspecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I said I didn't want to be harsh, and I hope I was wrong. The only reason I said it was because I thought it was weird he had to have permission for for deer search to be out there. Unless it was on Hulmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I said I didn't want to be harsh, and I hope I was wrong. The only reason I said it was because I thought it was weird he had to have permission for for deer search to be out there. Unless it was on Hulmes Deer search needs consent from the owner directly for liability purposes and so they can call the DEC if necessary. That's a known fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) A fact not known by me. So do you need written permission to give to deer search or just your word works? Edited October 29, 2014 by Paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 As a former Deer Search tracker,Phade is correct. Before any tracking begins,consent must be given by any and all land owners where tracking will take place. Also local DEC is notified by the tracker who will give his tracking licence number and the area he or she will be tracking in. As far as this young hunter goes,I commend him for seeking advice and doing all he could do to recover his deer. With his limited experience,and we have all been there,he did more than some so called veteran hunters would have. I'm sure he learned some valuable lessons from this. John,get back out there in your stand and just kill a deer! Please post it here so we all can see the smile on your face! Good luck! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 paula when they came out for me this is what happened...we sat in kitchen ..he wrote downall my taginfo...called the DEC told them a search was needed and where gave them my in fo and before going out had to make sure I had permission from area land owners to track on their places...I showed him the #'s and explained I called all but one in advance and he waited until I did that...then we went out searching...Oh I had to sign some paper work and he gave me a tutorial on what we preceive as shot placement and what actually happens in many instances..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Sorry keys seem to be stickingI know I hit them but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I did not know it was that detailed. Learned something new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFB Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I am a current member of Deer Search. Although I'm fairly inexperienced still, you do not need direct permission from the land owner. The hunter signs off that HE/SHE has permission to be on the land and Deer Search then calls the DEC to notify them of the search and provides the landowner name. If a trespass occurs, it's the hunters violation. As a side note, best results occur from the dogs when people do not contaminate the woods by spreading scent and blood. This sounded like a non fatal hit to me and in my opinion a good effort was made to recover. Keep at it kid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Well your above statement goes to show why the person that came out for me...made SURE..I HAD permission in advance...so I would not get a trespassing ticket if it was pushed..He also had me sign off on the search...this was 4 years ago and was out of Onterio county Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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