Finding them dead on Long Island.

[First-light]

Too many posts coming up of guys finding fawns dead in  their beds. I much rather see them in your freezer than Mother Natures. Such a shame, the circle of life.

[jjb4900]

where were those found?

[First-light]

No idea,  Bunch of guys been shed hunting and ran across dead fawns. 

Edited February 22, 2015 by First-light

[letinmfly]

It has been a cruel winter lately!! Gotta feel bad for all of God's creatures.

[jjb4900]

they really don't look that emaciated.....wonder if they froze with some of the brutal cold we've been having.

[First-light]

Do you realize that the breeding cycle on Long Island is all out of whack? During the January hunt, towards the end say Jan 20th or so a few fawns were brought into the check station. The biologist said they were born in November.  It's no wonder why we find the really small ones dead this time of year. 

[ATbuckhunter]

Saw it all over the LI hunting facebook group. Such a shame!

[NFA-ADK]

Do you realize that the breeding cycle on Long Island is all out of whack? During the January hunt, towards the end say Jan 20th or so a few fawns were brought into the check station. The biologist said they were born in November.  It's no wonder why we find the really small ones dead this time of year. 

 

Any theories as to why?  I would figure isolation and or low buck population. 

[ants]

Damn shame…but thats the way it is…The ones I've been seeing all seem  to be O-kay. Must have been 50 in one field last night. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[phade]

And this is why shooting fawns is ok...

[wooly]

Damn yotes need to start doing their job.

[Lawdwaz]

It has been a cruel winter lately!! Gotta feel bad for all of God's creatures.

 

How much snow is on the ground on LI?  Those pics don't show much more than a few inches.......

[ATbuckhunter]

How much snow is on the ground on LI?  Those pics don't show much more than a few inches.......

There isn't that much on the ground, the problem is that there is such an over population out there, that the mature deer eat most of the quality browse in the larger pine barren areas. 

[bkln]

I think its the temps that did them, not the snow....

[Water Rat]

Do you realize that the breeding cycle on Long Island is all out of whack? During the January hunt, towards the end say Jan 20th or so a few fawns were brought into the check station. The biologist said they were born in November.  It's no wonder why we find the really small ones dead this time of year. 

 

If the biologist is correct that they were born in November and shot in January ........wouldn't they have still had their spots ?

[Curmudgeon]

LI is terra incognita for me. Up here on the Appalachian Plateau we have a deep snow pack but not so deep that deer can't move. They just aren't moving much. We broke a snowshoe trail around the property a couple of days ago. Deer are sticking tight to old Christmas tree plantations where there is browse and thermal protection. We bumped some. I hope they didn't move too far.

 

We found no coyote tracks, no fisher tracks - actually no mammal tracks larger than squirrel and cottontail. We found no deer mortality. If the snow pack stays this deep for another month, I expect it to take a toll on the mature bucks and fawns. The does are loaded with fat and should be okay.

[growalot]

Good point Water Rat and you also would not be seeing and under coat....they wouldn't have had time to go through a full molt.

[Water Rat]

Guess the term " Bambi Killers " came from Long Island . Lol

[Dom]

Tick's possibly?Is any research being done if so many are being found dead?

[growalot]

Winter kills on cervids by ticks are usually moose and Elk ...for deer seem to be able to remove their own ticks through grooming and the social grooming of others. Though, a heavy fall investation and heavy pressure on young animals could possible weaken them enough that ticks could be a contributing long range factor

[Curmudgeon]

.............for deer seem to be able to remove their own ticks through grooming and the social grooming of others.

 

Really, deer groom each other? Forgive my ignorance. Can you provide some documentation. I would love to see it.

 

[growalot]

I love this...if you want me to scourer the internet to see if I can find "documented Proof"  I fear you will be sadly mistaken...I have no problem telling you I have sat countless hours in stands and blinds...even my front porch and watched them. This will be like other behaviors I have encountered ,that got "your full of it status". I then sat back and viewed as others posted similar actions in animals over time...So let me sit here with a smile and watch things evetually unfold....

[Single_shot]

Really, deer groom each other? Forgive my ignorance. Can you provide some documentation. I would love to see it.

 

 

I have seen it a few times in the bush but here is a quick video of them grooming in LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G0Nx14igoE

[dbHunterNY]

Do you realize that the breeding cycle on Long Island is all out of whack? During the January hunt, towards the end say Jan 20th or so a few fawns were brought into the check station. The biologist said they were born in November.  It's no wonder why we find the really small ones dead this time of year. 

 

about the same problem we have here in areas of 4C.  coyotes seem to clean them up quick though.  you just see spots where they were most of the time.

[Curmudgeon]

I have seen it a few times in the bush but here is a quick video of them grooming in LI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G0Nx14igoE

 

Thanks Single Shot. I learn something new once in a while. Today is a good day.

 

Thanks too to grow. Sorry to have gotten the hackles up.

 

Edited February 23, 2015 by Curmudgeon