gjs4 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Ladies and Gentlemen, please note the survey link below. This is a quick multiple choice means to submit your thoughts on the current state of deer hunting here in NY. Thank you so much for your time and participation. https://eSurv.org?s=LCMNKI_d9fc06fd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 So now how do I find the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Took it...where does it go?? Hopefully to the DEC but I doubt it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I just read over the questions. Would be nice to have a place to explain why I made my selection. Where does this go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 For whatever good it may do, I took the survey. Posting results, even for the people who participated, would be appreciated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I just took it. Again let us know where this goes and the results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 What deer hunting??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Okay, so I took the survey. What, exactly, will this accomplish? Needless to say, my answers were overwhelmingly negative (not that the DEC cares). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 By the way, like someone mentioned, I wish there were areas for comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I took it, will you be posting the results at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Comment here! I have to say that I where I hunt in the Southern Tier the is Amish surrounding or people like the Amish surrounding the area and I see maybe 6 different deer at most the entire season. Come gun season they are gone! How about the DEC starts to fine them for not calling in tags and over harvesting deer they don't have tags for. Edited February 22, 2016 by chas0218 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hi Guys. Sorry for the delayed response. When I figure out how to post the results- I will. I would sort of prefer to post them at the end (3/31/16) but will check out the options prior. As for the comment boxes- I think we are past that point. I omitted them for a couple reasons. There is 1) an upcharge for them as I read it and 2) most folks don't want to comment...and my goal was selling a 3-5 min multiple choice survey to sell the participation value of it. where is it going? In the end it will make it to the DEC and the big game board specifically. I may include the qdma and the nyscc on this as well. I feel both organizations are too into their agendas to know what people really want. Not trying to stir the pot or derail the thread with that commentary but throwing it out there as food for thought. As for the negativity- I get it. I wrote this being inspired by the antler restriction statement produced by the DEC last week. Topic aside I was enraged to see a private sportsman's group managed to get a not so random survey of 2700 people (out of the states 750,000 hunters) to reach the point of policy. I also am so sick of the DEC not giving every license holder the opportunity for feedback. Our license dollars feed a machine that most feel very little is produced from. Our divided groups (ARs, Gun vs Bow, etc) all for the lack of unity to make us a push over. The goal was to have deer hunters banded together making a statement. Its not perfect, nor are we...but it was my best shot. Better to do something than nothing, right? I truly feel we are owed more respect and opportunity than afforded and am trying to rally more into realizing that. Just my 2 cents..thanks for the support, your time and your patience. Will do all I can to provide value to us as a whole. Feel free to post or pm me any thoughts you have. THANK YOU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Hi Guys. Sorry for the delayed response. When I figure out how to post the results- I will. I would sort of prefer to post them at the end (3/31/16) but will check out the options prior. As for the comment boxes- I think we are past that point. I omitted them for a couple reasons. There is 1) an upcharge for them as I read it and 2) most folks don't want to comment...and my goal was selling a 3-5 min multiple choice survey to sell the participation value of it. where is it going? In the end it will make it to the DEC and the big game board specifically. I may include the qdma and the nyscc on this as well. I feel both organizations are too into their agendas to know what people really want. Not trying to stir the pot or derail the thread with that commentary but throwing it out there as food for thought. As for the negativity- I get it. I wrote this being inspired by the antler restriction statement produced by the DEC last week. Topic aside I was enraged to see a private sportsman's group managed to get a not so random survey of 2700 people (out of the states 750,000 hunters) to reach the point of policy. I also am so sick of the DEC not giving every license holder the opportunity for feedback. Our license dollars feed a machine that most feel very little is produced from. Our divided groups (ARs, Gun vs Bow, etc) all for the lack of unity to make us a push over. The goal was to have deer hunters banded together making a statement. Its not perfect, nor are we...but it was my best shot. Better to do something than nothing, right? I truly feel we are owed more respect and opportunity than afforded and am trying to rally more into realizing that. Just my 2 cents..thanks for the support, your time and your patience. Will do all I can to provide value to us as a whole. Feel free to post or pm me any thoughts you have. THANK YOU One thing I would have added is the ability to choose a WMU in a check list or at least the region(s) people hunt. Edited February 22, 2016 by chas0218 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I took the survey. So after reading your statement I assume this is something you made up yourself? Thank you, hopefully you will get it into the right hands to be read. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Self-made. Thank you for your appreciation and participation. Like many of the suggestions provided after the fact...I was driven at the moment- drafted it- ran it by a few buddies and the wife for editorial...scrapped some questions and out it went. Could've made a better product but felt it was best to strike when the iron was hot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 It's ridiculous that any org relies on a sample for a survey in 2016. It's easy and inexpensive to post a poll on a website and get actual numbers. Require a survey when purchasing a license, done. It's almost like they don't want our feedback... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadKill44 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Did the survey. Diddo on seeing the results. Do you expect to get more than 3000 responces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) You mind if I share the survey with a few people that aren't on here? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Edited February 22, 2016 by chas0218 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Chas0218- PLEASE share it everywhere you can!!! Roadkill- I was blank slate with expectations. Around 550 as I type this....not bad considering it was 250 last night (after 4-5 hours being up). If it surpasses 3000 (God willing and hoping) it will really carry weight. It is sad to think that out of a state with 750,000 licenses sold that we couldn't hit 3, 5, 15k. DATA IS ATTACHED -PDF Great info for sure.Please do not read the data until you have completed the survey Spread the word, text it (it can be smart phone completed), Facebook, Twitter or QR code below. Survey QR code. Deer Satisfaction Survey 2016 GJS 2 22 16 at 701pm.pdf Edited February 23, 2016 by gjs4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Took it. Hope it helps in some way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I may include the qdma and the XXX on this as well. I feel both organizations are too into their agendas to know what people really want. Not trying to stir the pot or derail the thread with that commentary but throwing it out there as food for thought. What agenda is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I took your survey, and I was also one of the 2700 or so that sent in my Cornell survey. I agree that 2700 sounds like a small sample, but depending on several factors such as geography, type of hunter (bow, gun, xbow) age, etc, it's hard to say if it was an accurate representation of the hunting population. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Culver Crk- I personally feel the QDMA is about membership more than deer. As stated before I am a member but not with the passion I used to have by any degree. Where were they with all of these deer season (non) changes? How can they buy the crap harvest stats the state throws out? Just my opinion...sure many will flame me for it too. Otto- you are the first person I know of to say they took the Cornell survey. I would love to hear more about it. As for the 2700...I got some background on why that offered enough statistical significance for the DEC to use HOWEVER it still doesn't bode well with me knowing that 1:278 representation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I wish I had kept a copy of it. I think it had about 50 or 60 questions. Basic questions to start...age, county of residence, how often you hunt, where you hunt, how you hunt, and other hobbies. Then more direct questions related to if you preferred to see or be able to harvest deer for meat, or for trophy. I believe there were a few sections where you could add a comment, but most of it was a 1-5 scale from strongly disagree to strongly agree. It was totally anonymous, I don't remember filling out my name, and I didn't even put a return address on the envelope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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