Mr. Ackley and I Encounter a Slob

[wildcat junkie]

It didn't go well for him.

 

10-points (G-4 on the right barely makes a inch.) 205# dressed on my scale. Not a huge rack, but what a pig!

He stepped out @ 4:25. 240 yds down the lane. I could tell it was a buck by the shape & when I put the glass on him, I saw enough antler to make the choice. The whole thing took less than 5 seconds to go down.

I sent a 200gr .323 Speer Hot-Cor on his way @ 2900 fps. Hit him a bit far back, clipping the liver as the bullet ranged forward taking out both lungs. He went down like a ton of bricks & never even got close to getting back up.

Edited November 12, 2017 by wildcat junkie

[Five Seasons]

205 is indeed a pig. Congrats wildcat!


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[SmokeinTN]

Nice deer congratulations Wild Cat

[Pygmy]

That is a dandy buck Dan....You still coming south to hunt next week ?

[wildcat junkie]

7 minutes ago, Pygmy said:

That is a dandy buck Dan....You still coming south to hunt next week ?

Yeah we both have 8R does tags and my bear tag is still unmolested.

My son was supposed to be sitting in the tripod this evening, but he thought it was "too cold". TOO COLD? I knew if I sat that stand I would get a crack at a buck. The weather conditions were perfect.

I once sat a day out in Wisconsin in 1975 when the thermometer on the window sill read -18F. That's "too cold", not +30F and 4 mph winds! The day before that frigid Wisconsin morning we spent the whole day out in -15F. You could see ice crystals in the air when you looked in the right direction and the sap was exploding inn the jack pine limbs.

[coonhunter]

Beauty. Look at the fat ol gut on that buck.

 

[Ontario Buckhunter]

1 hour ago, wildcat junkie said:

 

My son was supposed to be sitting in the tripod this evening, but he thought it was "too cold". TOO COLD? I knew if I sat that stand I would get a crack at a buck. The weather conditions were perfect.

I once sat a day out in Wisconsin in 1975 when the thermometer on the window sill read -18F. That's "too cold", not +30F and 4 mph winds! The day before that frigid Wisconsin morning we spent the whole day out in -15F. You could see ice crystals in the air when you looked in the right direction and the sap was exploding inn the jack pine limbs.

Where you hunting bare foot and was that stand up hills both ways .

In all seriousness that is a great buck congratulations.

Edited November 12, 2017 by Ontario Buckhunter

[grampy]

Beauty of a buck! Congratulations! 

[ATbuckhunter]

Congrats! Nice buck! 

[steve863]

Did you test his blood for diabetes??  Wow, that is one hog of a big bodied deer!!

[Lawdwaz]

Great buck!

So what is the chamber cut for?

[wildcat junkie]

1 hour ago, Lawdwaz said:

Great buck!

So what is the chamber cut for?

8mm-06 Ackley Improved. When the A.I. chamber is cut properly, the "parent cartridge" will still headspace on the 40* angle cut in the chamber. In this scenario, a 30-06 case is necked up to 8mm-06, then fire formed.

 The beauty of the P.O. Ackley designs is that factory ammo can be shot with perfect safety/accuracy to "fire form" the case. After that, the cartridge "could" be safely loaded to 62.000-65,000 psi given the decreased bolt thrust and case metal flow. In this case chamber pressure is around 60K and I have never had to trim a case once fire formed. Incipient case head separation seems non existent.

On the left is the original chamber for 8x57 IS which, when loaded to European "adult" specs, spits out a 200gr pill @ 2700 fps @ 3200 ft# of Me. The 8mm-06 A.I bests that by 200fps with Me of 3737 ft#. Basically the 8mm-06 A.I arrives @ 100yds with the same energy as the 8x57 @ the muzzle.

Terminal performance is about midway between factory 300 & 338 WM.

Edited November 12, 2017 by wildcat junkie

[wildcat junkie]

1 hour ago, steve863 said:

Did you test his blood for diabetes??  Wow, that is one hog of a big bodied deer!!

If I laid down next to him people might mistake us for brothers.

[mowin]

4 hours ago, wildcat junkie said:

8mm-06 Ackley Improved. When the A.I. chamber is cut properly, the "parent cartridge" will still headspace on the 40* angle cut in the chamber. In this scenario, a 30-06 case is necked up to 8mm-06, then fire formed.

 The beauty of the P.O. Ackley designs is that factory ammo can be shot with perfect safety/accuracy to "fire form" the case. After that, the cartridge "could" be safely loaded to 62.000-65,000 psi given the decreased bolt thrust and case metal flow. In this case chamber pressure is around 60K and I have never had to trim a case once fire formed. Incipient case head separation seems non existent.

On the left is the original chamber for 8x57 IS which, when loaded to European "adult" specs, spits out a 200gr pill @ 2700 fps @ 3200 ft# of Me. The 8mm-06 A.I bests that by 200fps with Me of 3737 ft#. Basically the 8mm-06 A.I arrives @ 100yds with the same energy as the 8x57 @ the muzzle.

Terminal performance is about midway between factory 300 & 338 WM.

Picked up a 8mm-06 AI a few yrs ago from a neighbor who passed.  Got several boxes of ammo with it. 

Preformed beautifully at the clubs range. Didn't plan on letting it go, but while at the range, a fellow shooter made me a offer I couldn't refuses. Was fun while it lasted. Lol..

Congrats on the buck.. can safely say I've never seen a 205 lb dressed deer.  

[wildcat junkie]

6 hours ago, mowin said:

Picked up a 8mm-06 AI a few yrs ago from a neighbor who passed.  Got several boxes of ammo with it. 

Preformed beautifully at the clubs range. Didn't plan on letting it go, but while at the range, a fellow shooter made me a offer I couldn't refuses. Was fun while it lasted. Lol..

Congrats on the buck.. can safely say I've never seen a 205 lb dressed deer.  

Some claim the 8mm-06 A.I. is the best of the 30-06 wildcats. It certainly falls in the middle in versatility having enough Mv for flat shooting and enough mass in a bullet diameter that yields a high BC for good retained energy.

200# dressed weight bucks, although not a dime a dozen here on the NY/Canadian border, are not rare either. What our bucks give up in antler spread/tine length, mother nature puts into body mass.

 

The 2 biggest bugs taken on my farm prior;

2004)  219# shot on November 4th. The fact that he was taken early before the rut kicked in accounts for some of his weight.

2014) 190# (est) Shot November 29th, very late in the rut. The buck would have probably weighed 20-30# more on Halloween. Note the mass in the shoulders/neck and lack of same in the hindquarters. He had been tearing up the saplings along the main loop of the horse trail for weeks before he came strutting around the bend in a horse trail @ 3:30 PM. He was about mid way between 2 of his scrapes.

[eagle rider]

really well done!!!!  Love the Ackley.  

[mowin]

Those are some impressive weights. They don't grow em that big around here too often (4U). I've seen pics of 200#ers taken around here.  My biggest was a early bow 9Pt that weighted 182. 

[turkeyfeathers]

I know nothing about rifle cartridges other than the front end and back end BUT I do know that's a heck of a buck ! Congrats on a fine deer

[GreeneHunter]

Nice Buck !

[The_Real_TCIII]

Nice buck WC! Make some jerky for our next trout stream outing

[wildcat junkie]

22 hours ago, wildcat junkie said:

My son was supposed to be sitting in the tripod this evening, but he thought it was "too cold". TOO COLD? I knew if I sat that stand I would get a crack at a buck. The weather conditions were perfect.

I once sat a day out in Wisconsin in 1975 when the thermometer on the window sill read -18F. That's "too cold", not +30F and 4 mph winds! The day before that frigid Wisconsin morning we spent the whole day out in -15F. You could see ice crystals in the air when you looked in the right direction and the sap was exploding inn the jack pine limbs.

 

20 hours ago, Ontario Buckhunter said:

Where you hunting bare foot and was that stand up hills both ways .

Yes I was barefoot. I only had on a "T" shirt with Bermuda shorts and no hat either..

Edited November 12, 2017 by wildcat junkie