Dom Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Many brands styles to choose from.I say bank your money and keep searching you sure do not need to make an impulse purchase.Go pick them up hold them and see witch one feels the best to you.You can always change the optics to your eye.Impulse buys have bitten me in the ASS many times the money you put out will not allways give a good return if you decide you don't like the tool /firearm/crossbow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Excalibur matrix 310 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: If I was upgrading to a higher end crossbow at this point, I would be choosing this, which is right around your budget number. https://www.hortoncrossbows.com/shop/horton-storm-rdx/ https://www.fieldandstreamshop.com/p/horton-storm-rdx-with-dedd-sled-crossbow-package-15horustrmrdx4x32abw/15horustrmrdx4x32abw?camp=CSE:FNS_pg45302_ecom_PLA_453 That is the best feeling crossbow I have ever fired. Says 15.5 axle to axle.....I would have to look at the regs to see if that was NY legal. Can't remember if it was 15" or 17". Anyway its a great crossbow. I have no idea what the point was with the minimum width other than to just be a PIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I just picked up one of these from a member here. An AWESOME crossbow. I'd highly recommend it. The adjustable rear stock for length of pull is a great feature to fine tune your sight picture through the scope. The scope is lit in blue or red. I do not have the attached cocking mechanism and don't miss it. https://www.killercrossbows.com/products/furious-370-frt-2017-version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jdubs Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: I just picked up one of these from a member here. An AWESOME crossbow. I'd highly recommend it. The adjustable rear stock for length of pull is a great feature to fine tune your sight picture through the scope. The scope is lit in blue or red. I do not have the attached cocking mechanism and don't miss it. https://www.killercrossbows.com/products/furious-370-frt-2017-version This xbow and the Horton RCX both look awesome. The Horton's 15.5" uncocked width would appear to be disqualified by NY's 17" minimum for hunting. However, the KI's width is good at 17.5" plus that Furious platform comes with a Hawke XB30 scope, definite ahort list material! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubs Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Dom said: Many brands styles to choose from.I say bank your money and keep searching you sure do not need to make an impulse purchase.Go pick them up hold them and see witch one feels the best to you.You can always change the optics to your eye.Impulse buys have bitten me in the ASS many times the money you put out will not allways give a good return if you decide you don't like the tool /firearm/crossbow Thanks Dom. I'm pretty methodical in how I go about purchases like this. Internet is useful for creating a short list, but I will definitely be handling some before plunking down any money. Good replies so far are definitely helping out. The Jackal was actually a gift for my stepson who ultimately decided not to hunt afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 39 minutes ago, Jdubs said: I will definitely be handling some before plunking down any money. where are you actually located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, ApexerER said: That is the best feeling crossbow I have ever fired. Says 15.5 axle to axle.....I would have to look at the regs to see if that was NY legal. Can't remember if it was 15" or 17". Anyway its a great crossbow. I have no idea what the point was with the minimum width other than to just be a PIA. Its 17, but its limb tip to limb tip that counts in NY, not axle to axle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubs Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: where are you actually located? I'm in Saratoga County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jdubs said: I'm in Saratoga County. little too far away, was going let you try out my Furious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubs Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: little too far away, was going let you try out my Furious I appreciate the thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubs Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: I just picked up one of these from a member here. An AWESOME crossbow. I'd highly recommend it. The adjustable rear stock for length of pull is a great feature to fine tune your sight picture through the scope. The scope is lit in blue or red. I do not have the attached cocking mechanism and don't miss it. https://www.killercrossbows.com/products/furious-370-frt-2017-version Looks like Cabela's is blowing this model out (the only KI xbow on their site) for only $419.88. I said I wasn't going to buy one without handling it first, but damn! http://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/archery/crossbows-accessories/crossbows/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/333154080/i/103854780/killer-instinct-furious-frt-crossbow-package/2485597.uts?slotId=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Wait until spring to buy a new Xbow. New hunting equipment premiers at the Shot Show (??) in Feb and previous year's models typically go on sale in Mar-May timeframe. Just to satisfy my curiosity .... Those of you that have purchased an entry level or budget Xbow AND then had to upgrade the scope - What was your total expenditure? After doing this, doesn't the difference ($$) between that and the purchase of a better Xbow not seem so overwhelming, budget-wise? One of the scenarios I looked at when I was buying a Xbow. JMO, but I think the technology for Xbows has sort of max'ed out right now. Clearly, Belo was instigating the Xbow debate with the air-Xbow photo. Current trend seems to be maintaining same performance (fps/Ke) while reducing draw weight. Improvements in cam and limb material & design seem to be the highlight of newer Xbows. As a hunter & a consumer, at some point you have to ask yourself is the upgrade from ~340 to 400+fps worth the additional $$ or will it be a more efficient Xbow for killing deer within 40yrds with a single shot...!??! It is NOT exponential, meaning a $1500 Xbow does NOT give 3X better performance than a $500 model. IMHO, you'd see a jump in Xbow quality in the ~$8-900 range as opposed to the sub-$500 models. Deja-vu, sounds like advice for buying/upgrading a compound bow.... Right back atcha, Belo. lol Everyone has different criteria or expectations from hunting with or purchasing a Xbow, so "to each, their own"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 17 hours ago, Belo said: is this legal in NY my friend was interested in getting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 is this legal in NY my friend was interested in getting one.In a few seasons it will be.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 13 hours ago, Jdubs said: Looks like Cabela's is blowing this model out (the only KI xbow on their site) for only $419.88. I said I wasn't going to buy one without handling it first, but damn! http://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/archery/crossbows-accessories/crossbows/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/333154080/i/103854780/killer-instinct-furious-frt-crossbow-package/2485597.uts?slotId=0 great price. You wouldn't be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Belo said: Right, like NYS and the rest of the country will have them in a few years. In a few seasons it will be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 hours ago, nyslowhand said: Wait until spring to buy a new Xbow. New hunting equipment premiers at the Shot Show (??) in Feb and previous year's models typically go on sale in Mar-May timeframe. Just to satisfy my curiosity .... Those of you that have purchased an entry level or budget Xbow AND then had to upgrade the scope - What was your total expenditure? After doing this, doesn't the difference ($$) between that and the purchase of a better Xbow not seem so overwhelming, budget-wise? One of the scenarios I looked at when I was buying a Xbow. JMO, but I think the technology for Xbows has sort of max'ed out right now. Clearly, Belo was instigating the Xbow debate with the air-Xbow photo. Current trend seems to be maintaining same performance (fps/Ke) while reducing draw weight. Improvements in cam and limb material & design seem to be the highlight of newer Xbows. As a hunter & a consumer, at some point you have to ask yourself is the upgrade from ~340 to 400+fps worth the additional $$ or will it be a more efficient Xbow for killing deer within 40yrds with a single shot...!??! It is NOT exponential, meaning a $1500 Xbow does NOT give 3X better performance than a $500 model. IMHO, you'd see a jump in Xbow quality in the ~$8-900 range as opposed to the sub-$500 models. Deja-vu, sounds like advice for buying/upgrading a compound bow.... Right back atcha, Belo. lol Everyone has different criteria or expectations from hunting with or purchasing a Xbow, so "to each, their own"! The biggest difference I have seen on the more expensive models over the cheaper ones is the sound. I have notice a marked difference with the more expensive being quieter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 9 hours ago, nyslowhand said: Wait until spring to buy a new Xbow. New hunting equipment premiers at the Shot Show (??) in Feb and previous year's models typically go on sale in Mar-May timeframe. Just to satisfy my curiosity .... Those of you that have purchased an entry level or budget Xbow AND then had to upgrade the scope - What was your total expenditure? After doing this, doesn't the difference ($$) between that and the purchase of a better Xbow not seem so overwhelming, budget-wise? One of the scenarios I looked at when I was buying a Xbow. JMO, but I think the technology for Xbows has sort of max'ed out right now. Clearly, Belo was instigating the Xbow debate with the air-Xbow photo. Current trend seems to be maintaining same performance (fps/Ke) while reducing draw weight. Improvements in cam and limb material & design seem to be the highlight of newer Xbows. As a hunter & a consumer, at some point you have to ask yourself is the upgrade from ~340 to 400+fps worth the additional $$ or will it be a more efficient Xbow for killing deer within 40yrds with a single shot...!??! It is NOT exponential, meaning a $1500 Xbow does NOT give 3X better performance than a $500 model. IMHO, you'd see a jump in Xbow quality in the ~$8-900 range as opposed to the sub-$500 models. Deja-vu, sounds like advice for buying/upgrading a compound bow.... Right back atcha, Belo. lol Everyone has different criteria or expectations from hunting with or purchasing a Xbow, so "to each, their own"! The scope is the only part of my Centerpoint Sniper that I dont like. Im actually thinking next season I will buy the Horton Storm RDX and pass the Centerpoint to my daughter. Ill most likely pick up another scope for it when I do that. When I bought my Centerpoint I wasnt even sure that Id enjoy hunting with it, which is why I went inexpensive. Well, it was purchased for me, but my girlfriend knew what I was interested in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 hours ago, rachunter said: is this legal in NY my friend was interested in getting one. No, and I doubt it will be legal in NY anytime in the near future. We currently do not have an airgun season for big game, and I have yet to hear about any type of push for one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: The scope is the only part of my Centerpoint Sniper that I dont like. Im actually thinking next season I will buy the Horton Storm RDX and pass the Centerpoint to my daughter. Ill most likely pick up another scope for it when I do that. When I bought my Centerpoint I wasnt even sure that Id enjoy hunting with it, which is why I went inexpensive. I really like my center point for the price and how well it shoots. The scope works well enough for me, but I know it's low end and an upgrade is something I'd consider. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, genesee_mohican said: I really like my center point for the price and how well it shoots. The scope works well enough for me, but I know it's low end and an upgrade is something I'd consider. I too like my Centerpoint over my Barnett Raptor. For roughly the same price the Centerpoint is MUCH better. That being said, the scopes on both are terrible, and need upgrading. Didn't even hunt with crossbow this year, as I wanted to get one more with my compound, and did. But next year, will most likely only hunt with the crossbow. So will be looking to upgrade. This thread has been very helpful, to see what the next level of crossbows offer. Now if full inclusion would get passed! But that has been debated to death here, and no need to derail this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I simply love my Centerpoint Sniper 370. The stock is adjustable so it can fit any member of the family. The arrows that come with it are not the greatest but with the money you save you can buy some something better. I've killed 3 deer (2 bucks and 1 doe) in the last two years with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 6:14 AM, rachunter said: is this legal in NY my friend was interested in getting one. On 12/6/2017 at 6:14 AM, rachunter said: is this legal in NY my friend was interested in getting one. I wonder if I epoxy some crossbow limbs on the airbow does that fit the legal requirements for New York State lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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