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Big buck down!

Robhuntandfish
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Ok boys take a deep breath with me cause I am still shaking.  Mainframe 8 with quadruple brow tines on one side and a row of junk on the other.  Redneck hang a ring on it 16 points, but I am thin

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no one told the deer it was to warm.... He came in chasing 5 doe which are walking past me on the ground at 40 yards tight now !

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4 minutes ago, phade said:

When I found out that does are successfully bred at 95+% in my WMUs, and that the chances of a bearing age doe NOT having fawns is very small, I had to stop shooting does or get over it. I got over it. Even if you don't see them, they are there in many cases. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

In some cases, killing the mother of a BB fawn increases the odds of that buck not dispersing off your ground.

Everyone has their reasons, but I prefer not to ignore factual information. I'd have to almost stop shooting does to prevent killing one with a fawn. At that point, I am not being a good steward of the herd.

That makes a lot of sense and I never really thought about it like that. Not that I will change my mind but it does make sense. I have shot several doe. The times that I have they are in a large group with a mixture of adults and young deer. I have picked out the largest one and shot. They have always all run off and I have never had a fawn looking lost after that. I guess it is possible that I still could but to me the odds feel pretty good that the group will take care of the young. 

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16 minutes ago, OtiscoPaul said:

I love my dogs like kids (and I have kids) and I do think they have advanced emotions as they evolved with us...but I think all mammals share the ability to emote and also to be altruistic.

 

That wasn't directed at you @OtiscoPaul. It was in response to the not putting Disney emotions into deer.  Anyway....I hope someone gets out in the woods so I can read about what this thread is for. Sorry for getting it so off track....

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That wasn't directed at you @OtiscoPaul. It was in response to the not putting Disney emotions into deer.  Anyway....I hope someone gets out in the woods so I can read about what this thread is for. Sorry for getting it so off track....

Oh I know you just made me think of my dogs with your description of your pooch!

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1 hour ago, phade said:

When I found out that does are successfully bred at 95+% in my WMUs, and that the chances of a bearing age doe NOT having fawns is very small, I had to stop shooting does or get over it. I got over it. Even if you don't see them, they are there in many cases. You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

In some cases, killing the mother of a BB fawn increases the odds of that buck not dispersing off your ground.

Everyone has their reasons, but I prefer not to ignore factual information. I'd have to almost stop shooting does to prevent killing one with a fawn. At that point, I am not being a good steward of the herd.

 

And for those that wait for them to be pushed off during rut...in those situations the mothers and fawns reunite after breeding. Typically BB/yearling buck dispersal (permanently) happens later than that.

You take your "science" somewhere else, mister!!

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1 minute ago, crappyice said:

Maybe we should discuss mosquitos now that the great doe/fawn debate has ceased!!!
Personally I gently shoo them away as I would not want to end their family unit or cause emotion stress to its young by smooshing them on my skin!


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too soon ^_^

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Sat this morn from 7-11.  Heard one in the thick brush but never saw it.  

Got down from stand and into trail and out pops a monster doe about 100 yards up the trail.  She is headed my way and at 60 she went back into woods.  I had wind advantage and thought it was gonna get a shot .  She never saw me but went into woods.  

So back in the stand til noon hoping she came back out but nothing.  Get down again and this time a yote up the trail.  

Saw this rub about 35 yards from stand.

Pulled some cards and does and small bucks. But more movement for sure.  

Doe I saw today was just huge.  I thought when I first seen her it was two deer. Lol 

No hunting now til Thursday Eve.

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5 hours ago, OtiscoPaul said:

In my limited experience bucks breed the first accepting doe.

If that is the case then a glut of does is going to make his search shorter in distance and duration.

there is truth to this too. If you have the land, the time and the research you want to kill the nomad does or the ones who bed in other areas. Leave your home does alone. 

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4 hours ago, ApexerER said:

Well like I said in my post, everyone has to be ok with their decisions that THEY make in the woods. Your decisions are obviously different than mine and there isn't anything wrong with that. 

 

Do you have a dog? I almost can't imagine that you do. I am positive my dog has emotions. He is super happy when I come home, ask him if he want to do for a walk or got to the nature preserve. (yes he knows what that mean) When I leave I can hear him crying in the house. When I am leaving and he is all excited and I tell him he has to stay you can see the deflated look on his face.  You don't think its possible deer have those same sort of feelings? When you see a fawn jumping around in a field around its mother you don't think its possible it's happy in that moment. When a fawn is bleating because it lost its mom you don't think it might be sad at that moment? 

I can tell you for a fact that they do.

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2 hours ago, Belo said:

there is truth to this too. If you have the land, the time and the research you want to kill the nomad does or the ones who bed in other areas. Leave your home does alone. 

Do you brand yours?  I'm gonna need to invest in one cuz I can't tell one mature doe to the next.

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