bhunterED Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 11:09 PM, Chef said: For what? And how do you know it was linked to the vaccine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand What do you mean for what? Did you not read cardiac arrest? I'm sure you'll say it's coincidence and that's fine it's your right to an opinion but the shot is the only change to the kids life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 3:04 PM, Grouse said: NZ Government Panel: 26-Year-Old's Death 'Probably' Due to Pfizer COVID Vaccine https://www.westernjournal.com/government-panel-26-year-olds-death-probably-due-pfizer-covid-vaccine/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2021-12-20&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR1cAEAXzjHawmSwYc4ILlezsFjUoHAxFrh9mpiqYpU-QeSR59O4N9Q21ow Expand Unfortunately our government won't admit to fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoots100 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 11:58 PM, bhunterED said: Unfortunately our government won't admit to fault. Expand Even if they admit to anything, they Won't/Can't be held responsible for anything, just like Big Pharma. Even knowing that, people are lining up to get the Jab ! Why isn't anyone touting the merits of Prophylactics and other ways to protect from getting covid ? Follow the Benjamin's. Why would Companies that are making Trillions of dollars, kill their golden goose ? Notice how none of the Covid Pill treatments have been released to the public yet ? We're being told that they need approval and more testing before being given to the little people and even if they are made available, it'll be very limited. More like, once these meds hit the streets, the vaccines will be long forgotten, unless mandated by the political elites that have stock in big Pharma and/or want to keep the control high their on. Yet, we're being told from many that are suffering from Jabmentia, All is fine with the Vaccine, you just need to get a booster or two every year and wear a mask(or two) for the rest of your life. Baaaa Baaaa Sheeple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 No fact behind this at all and just a weird thought I had. What if with the US government was shifting from the petrodollar to the pharmadoller with all the green energy push. Again no facts behind this at all and just a weird thought I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 12:30 AM, Shoots100 said: Even if they admit to anything, they Won't/Can't be held responsible for anything, just like Big Pharma. Even knowing that, people are lining up to get the Jab ! Why isn't anyone touting the merits of Prophylactics and other ways to protect from getting covid ? Follow the Benjamin's. Why would Companies that are making Trillions of dollars, kill their golden goose ? Notice how none of the Covid Pill treatments have been released to the public yet ? We're being told that they need approval and more testing before being given to the little people and even if they are made available, it'll be very limited. More like, once these meds hit the streets, the vaccines will be long forgotten, unless mandated by the political elites that have stock in big Pharma and/or want to keep the control high their on. Yet, we're being told from many that are suffering from Jabmentia, All is fine with the Vaccine, you just need to get a booster or two every year and wear a mask(or two) for the rest of your life. Baaaa Baaaa Sheeple Expand Money the bottom line in this whole shit show and have been at the source since the beginning. Is the FDA approved vaccine Comirnaty even available in the US yet our are they still passing out the EUA version still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Lol you’re a trip man. Good luck in life, I’m out of this one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 4:09 AM, Belo said: Lol you’re a trip man. Good luck in life, I’m out of this one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Not sure who exactly you're referring to as being a trip but if it's me, thanks. As far as good luck in life I'm set and I couldn't ask for a better one but thanks for the concern. I don't rely on luck to make things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left field Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 3:58 PM, Jeremy K said: How ever my body's immune system fights covid is the way I want it to attack the virus. Expand Let's go, Darwin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) On 12/22/2021 at 3:58 PM, Jeremy K said: How ever my body's immune system fights covid is the way I want it to attack the virus. Expand Do you mean that you wouldn't go to a hospital if you get sick? We've seen many people in the hospital who felt that way until they started getting very sick. Edited December 23, 2021 by virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitear Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) On 12/23/2021 at 2:18 PM, virgil said: Do you mean that you wouldn't go to a hospital if you get sick? We've seen many people in the hospital who felt that way until they started getting very sick. Expand It's funny, I'm listening to a discussion right now about if those who refuse to take the vaccine will turn down the Pfizer pill if they get sick. Someone said "there are no atheists in foxholes". It's an interesting discussion. My bandmate who is still recovering from Covid refused to get the vaccine. Now, he has told us that he and his family will be getting it when they can because he doesn't want to go through that again. Edited December 23, 2021 by Splitear 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:23 PM, Splitear said: It's funny, I'm listening to a discussion right now about if those who refuse to take the vaccine will turn down the Pfizer pill if they get sick. Someone said "there are not atheists in foxholes". It's an interesting discussion. My bandmate who is still recovering from Covid refused to get the vaccine. Now, he has told us that he and his family will be getting it when they can because he doesn't want to go through that p Expand You are aware that vaccinated people are being reinfected with covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:18 PM, virgil said: Do you mean that you wouldn't go to a hospital if you get sick? We've seen many people in the hospital who felt that way until they started getting very sick. Expand There's a big difference in being sick and needing hospital care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:44 PM, bhunterED said: There's a big difference in being sick and needing hospital care. Expand Yes, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:43 PM, bhunterED said: You are aware that vaccinated people are being reinfected with covid. Expand Everyone is aware of this. But, the fact remains that vaccinated/infected people are requiring medical care/hospitalization at much lower rates than the unvaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:49 PM, virgil said: Everyone is aware of this. But, the fact remains that vaccinated/infected people are requiring medical care/hospitalization at much lower rates than the unvaccinated. Expand So says the media. I personally know more vaccinated people who have covid than those who are unvaxxed and have had prior infection. It's honestly pretty messed up to me how you don't even know what news outlet or elected officials are actually telling the truth. I truly hate the divide that has happened within our country and I put most of the blame for it on the politicians spewing their own biased beliefs based on personal vendetta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitear Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:43 PM, bhunterED said: You are aware that vaccinated people are being reinfected with covid. Expand Yep, I've heard plenty about all of it. It sounds like vaccinated are less likely to get seriously ill or die. I chose to get vaccinated, and so far haven't had Covid to my knowledge. I hope it stays that way. Regardless, it's your choice to make, I'm not going to argue that at all. Really, I'm not going to argue any of it, I'm intrigued by all of the discussion and the points raised by both sides. This was merely an observation on a radio discussion I was listening to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:56 PM, bhunterED said: I personally know more vaccinated people Expand I personally know very few people and Love it ! Just Sayin ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I honestly cant tell who is or isnt vaccinated in my circle of peers . Except for a few but I stopped talking to them immediately LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitear Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 2:56 PM, bhunterED said: So says the media. I personally know more vaccinated people who have covid than those who are unvaxxed and have had prior infection. It's honestly pretty messed up to me how you don't even know what news outlet or elected officials are actually telling the truth. I truly hate the divide that has happened within our country and I put most of the blame for it on the politicians spewing their own biased beliefs based on personal vendetta. Expand I just plain know more vaccinated people than unvaxxed, so my personal experience is likely to be skewed from the onset. Regardless, the only people that are in my circle who are still dealing with Covid right now are unvaxxed. Obviously it's the opposite for you. This is why anecdotal evidence is so unreliable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 3:24 PM, Jeremy K said: I honestly cant tell who is or isnt vaccinated in my circle of peers . Except for a few but I stopped talking to them immediately LOL Expand HEY! Im happy just being considered a peer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 3:58 PM, Jeremy K said: How ever my body's immune system fights covid is the way I want it to attack the virus. Expand Interesting. Do you not take antibiotics or medication ever? IfI was to contract covid again and needed more than my immune system I would opt for the Desantis monoclonal antibody treatment (i am coining this term fyi). Or invermectin. Or zpak. So many great options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 3:26 PM, Splitear said: I just plain know more vaccinated people than unvaxxed, so my personal experience is likely to be skewed from the onset. Regardless, the only people that are in my circle who are still dealing with Covid right now are unvaxxed. Obviously it's the opposite for you. This is why anecdotal evidence is so unreliable. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitear Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) On 12/23/2021 at 4:34 PM, bhunterED said: Expand As a Cornell Contract College Staff person, we've been getting several emails about this. Again, not looking to argue, because it's widely know that vaccinated people are still contracting Covid. However, when 99% of the population is vaccinated (even though the article says 97%), of course the chance of the majority of cases being in those who are vaccinated is high. Would that "majority" be different if only 50% were vaccinated? What if it were 70%? Who knows? I'm simply saying, in my small circle of folks, 100% of those dealing with Covid (3 people total) are unvaccinated. You have stated your experience is not the same, and I'm sure that's true as well. Edited December 23, 2021 by Splitear 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 3:59 PM, diplomat019 said: Interesting. Do you not take antibiotics or medication ever? IfI was to contract covid again and needed more than my immune system I would opt for the Desantis monoclonal antibody treatment (i am coining this term fyi). Or invermectin. Or zpak. So many great options available. Expand Good luck ,the government has decided to cherry pick who gets them and who can give them out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhunterED Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 4:39 PM, Splitear said: As a Cornell Contract College Staff person, we've been getting several emails about this. Again, not looking to argue, because it's widely know that vaccinated people are still contracting Covid. However, when 99% of the population is vaccinated (even though the article says 97%), of course the chance of the majority of cases being in those who are vaccinated is high. Would that "majority" be different if only 50% were vaccinated? What if it were 70%? Who knows? I'm simply saying, in my small circle of folks, 100% of those dealing with Covid (3 people total) are unvaccinated. You have stated your experience is not the same, and I'm sure that's true as well. Expand That is where my issue with the whole pandemic began. The politicians and health officials talking out of both sides of their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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