Is Putin emboldened by weak leadership and appeasement?

[Robby]

...........but, but, but, sanctions!!! Yeah right, the Biden's still have filthy lucre to reap, so the sanctions don't cover Rusky oil. What an effing joke. Except those brave souls in the Ukraine aren't laughing.

Go Afghan on those putin puppets my brothers and sisters!

 

[phade]

4 minutes ago, Shoots100 said:

So we're to take your opinion over the data provided by the Energy information Administration ?

Did Chef or VH hijack your account  ?

In the end, Putin will do what he wants and doesn't give one robho what the west says.

I’m done conversing but do realize I literally posted data from the EIA showing we IMPORTED BILLIONS OF $ OF RUSSIAN OIL IN TRUMP’s tenure.

Didn’t want you to miss that part.

 

 

[Northcountryman]

16 minutes ago, phade said:

LOL. You two have a great day. Let me know how that Russian oil works for you today just like it did in Trump’s era. Because you got it today and then, too. Just plain fact.

But it appears we (were) energy independent whenTrump was in charge- unless the quote  from Shoots is wrong.

[Chef]

This is just Russian imports alone into the US.
Does that make you feel like you’re energy independent? I mean, Trumps years were trending down, but by no means the lowest since the turn of the century.

Looks like the downward trend started during Obama continued through Trump and the up started before he left office?


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[Chef]

LOL. You two have a great day. Let me know how that Russian oil works for you today just like it did in Trump’s era. Because you got it today and then, too. Just plain fact.

It’s sad but what you need to realize is you are no longer arguing with Americans.. you are now arguing with people who would prefer to live in the unite states of Trump.

They will dispute anything and everything that doesn’t make their golden boy look perfect.


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[Northcountryman]

A Quote from Forbes magazine:

 

 

 

Are We Energy Independent?

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) tabulated U.S. energy consumption in 2019 and 2020, and determined that for both full years, counting all energy sources, we were energy independent. Even though U.S. energy production declined by 5% in 2020, energy consumption also declined by 3% as the pandemic impacted the economy. So, our energy independence was shrinking as the pandemic unfolded.

[Jeremy K]

2 hours ago, Chef said:

It’s sad but what you need to realize is you are no longer arguing with Americans.. you are now arguing with people who would prefer to live in the unite states of Trump.

They will dispute anything and everything that doesn’t make their golden boy look perfect.


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Why is it so hard for people to understand that voters who support trump just want less government influence in their life? It's disgusting seeing grown adults root for politicians to piss all over their rights. That's it in a nutshell.

[Four Seasons]

26 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

Why is it so hard for people to understand that voters who support trump just want less government influence in their life? It's disgusting seeing grown adults root for politicians to piss all over their rights. That's it in a nutshell.

Exactly. The cook and other idiots would rather vote for 5 Dollar gas and everything else in line more expensive along with the most unsafe America we have have in decades and a guy that made his family rich off of Americans and politics while getting absolutely nothing done for this country.  And those idiots like to think their Americans.   Only a complete idiot would vote anything left for any reason. Let alone one just because the guy makes themselves look weak. 

[BizCT]

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[Shoots100]

5 hours ago, Chef said:

It’s sad but what you need to realize is you are no longer arguing with Americans.. you are now arguing with people who would prefer to live in the unite states of Trump.

They will dispute anything and everything that doesn’t make their golden boy look perfect.


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It's really sad that you and all the rest of the TDS jabmentia people were focusing on the bad orange man, when Putin was amassing hundreds of thousands of troops for the eventual invasion of Ukraine and thought sanction threats were going to stop him.

Keep up the good work Comrade'.

And then there's this;

Hillary

[Chef]

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Why would you post something like that, especially when you know it’s not true


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[Shoots100]

That's right Chef, if it's not from CNN or Huff post, it's got to be fake, like the moon landing.

[Chef]

That's right Chef, if it's not from CNN or Huff post, it's got to be fake, like the moon landing.

No clown it’s not true because it’s not true….

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2A42N9


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[knehrke]

Ouch, this is starting to take a turn. I appreciate that at one point late in 2018, we tipped the balance from being a net oil importer to net exporter. So, at that point in time, we were "energy independent". But up until that point, we were importing 3 million barrels a day, net, and at that point, we were exporting 220,000 barrels a day...according to the numbers in the article. That's razor-thin. And it didn't last, unfortunately.

In other words, it was a very transient independent. Depending how granular you want to be, we can be independent several times a day, until the next shipment of Russian oil arrives lol. 

I appreciate that folks want us to stand on our own. I do, too. But arguing the semantics of independence isn't going to win anybody points. I feel like this is one of those things where five minutes and a beer would have everybody on the same page.

Edited February 28, 2022 by knehrke

[Northcountryman]

40 minutes ago, knehrke said:

Ouch, this is starting to take a turn. I appreciate that at one point late in 2018, we tipped the balance from being a net oil importer to net exporter. So, at that point in time, we were "energy independent". But up until that point, we were importing 3 million barrels a day, net, and at that point, we were exporting 220,000 barrels a day...according to the numbers in the article. That's razor-thin. And it didn't last, unfortunately.

In other words, it was a very transient independent. Depending how granular you want to be, we can be independent several times a day, until the next shipment of Russian oil arrives lol. 

I appreciate that folks want us to stand on our own. I do, too. But arguing the semantics of independence isn't going to win anybody points. I feel like this is one of those things where five minutes and a beer would have everybody on the same page.

Maybe , but I don’t think it lasted due to the pandemic and the change In leadership . Saw a couple sources now that both said accdg to their metric of analysis , we were under Trump but idk . You know , the thing is is that BOTH sides will cherry pick stats to advance a narrative , which is frustrating- I’ve seen that for years . Best thing you can do is look around you and , take in as much info as possible from a myriad of different sources to try to make a assessment as to what the hell is goin on. For me , it’s quite simple : under Trump , economy was good , gas was cheap ; u see Biden, economy sucks , gas prices are high and are rising ever further . NOONE can deny this - therefore , things were much better under Trump than Biden . 

[left field]

Here is some interesting analysis and background on Putin's ability to wage war.

[Versatile_Hunter]

Wake up call from Romney. 

[left field]

They have uniforms.

 

I miss old Russian TV.

 

[Shoots100]

19 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

Wake up call from Romney. 

He was looking in the mirror at the time.

[left field]

I tell you who we need to diffuse all this ... Giorgy!

 

[ApexerER]

One thing i will say that I wasn't expecting. This isn't looking good for Putin. I thought he would roll through Ukraine the way we rolled to Bagdad.  I am happily shocked at his lack of progress.....

[Splitear]

6 minutes ago, ApexerER said:

One thing i will say that I wasn't expecting. This isn't looking good for Putin. I thought he would roll through Ukraine the way we rolled to Bagdad.  I am happily shocked at his lack of progress.....

I was listening to a general yesterday, and he said that most of what is in the 3 mile convoy are resupply trucks, fuel, food, etc. The tanks and stuff are more than likely escort. He was explaining that the fact that they are that behind on supplies shows that they weren't ready for the resistance they've been dealing with. 

[ApexerER]

1 minute ago, Splitear said:

I was listening to a general yesterday, and he said that most of what is in the 3 mile convoy are resupply trucks, fuel, food, etc. The tanks and stuff are more than likely escort. He was explaining that the fact that they are that behind on supplies shows that they weren't ready for the resistance they've been dealing with. 

It is evident to me that Putin doesn't have the air superiority and precision weapons we have.......Thankfully!

[left field]

Take a look at that twitter thread I posted earlier. The guy makes a convincing argument (as near as I can tell) that Putin and the Russian forces are highly overrated and that the Ukrainians learned their lesson from Crimea.

[Splitear]

Just now, ApexerER said:

It is evident to me that Putin doesn't have the air superiority and precision weapons we have.......Thankfully!

I read this morning that Russia is claiming that they have control of the airspace, but as much as they have lied throughout, it's likely not true. I think the defense weapons the Ukrainians are getting sent are really putting a hurt on the Russians.