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I'd just tell Mom!

Could have done the same thing with a short, simple survey at the time of purchasing your license. Then everyone would have a say, not just 1% of the big game hunters in the state.

Well, I guess the issue is not dead as far as the DEC is concerned. There is another survey being conducted by Cornell University's Human Dimension Research Unit on behalf of the DEC to once and for all get at the true attitudes of hunters toward ARs. 7000 randomly selected big game license holders will be surveyed to kind of take the temperature of big game hunters on this issue. It sounds like this survey may actually impact some regulations changes for 2015. It will be interesting to see how it all comes out. By the way, I have to ask why Cornell keeps getting all this survey money when it would be real simple to include a survey question at the time of license purchase that would reach ALL license purchasers. It seems to me that in this age of electronic license purchases and databases, the damned computers could wack this thing out without any mailings or postage or fees going off to Cornell. Simple question at time of license purchase ..... "you for it or against it". Town clerk or whoever checks the appropriate box and there you are. Push the button at the DEC headquarter's computers and out pops the answer. Why isn't it that simple and that cheap?

It took 4 weeks to get a deer with in bow range yesterday I was sitting in my stand in franklinville and at 753 am I could see a big bodied deer coming out of the thicket about 60 yrds away as soon as he took a few Steps I could see I was a big buck he had his head down walking straight for my stand he gets to 24 yards and facing me so I'm still standing very still out of no where he looks right at me and takes off he was a beautiful 8pt some where in the 120s. So after the morning Hunt I decide ill leave that stand alone until next Sunday so I drive to east aurora to hunt a spot that I haven't been to yet this year it's loaded with doe. I make it less then 10 yards into the woods and almost got to shoot a doe at 15 yards but she was facing me I got into my stand at 2pm by 540 I had seen 8 doe had a few small ones with in range at 547 I had a doe at 23 yards made a great shot I could see and hear her crash I packed my stuff and took care of my deer while seeing 5 more doe I had the deer gutted and on the car At 612 pm my best day this season so far

This is the one that gets me. The old "hiding in line with game" game. Twice I have encountered guys dressed completely in camo including face paint on state land on opening day of gun. What on earth were they thinking? These two incidents were different in that fortunately there didn't happen to be any shot opportunities but similar in potential consequences. No there was no deer between us, but there could have been. I never saw either one until they moved. Now that speaks very well for the quality of their camo, but doesn't say much for the quality of their mental processes. But those two episodes were just additional situations that proved to me the value of blaze orange, or more specifically the foolishness of not wearing it. The idea of hiding from other hunters is simply ridiculousness and makes a good basis for becoming another horrible statistic. How much is a deer worth?

Ever hunt turkey...?

Got these just the other night. Wish he'd take a stroll past my stand.

Jesse, We can all including myself say what we would do. None of us really know your situation. Al I can say is I hope you do not treat your children as he has treated you. By posting this it shows how much it bothers you. I sincerely think you will not follow in the same foot steps. You are not responsible for your father's actions. However you are not obligated to cover them up either. In the end you will do what you see as right. Happy hunting

So what if "Dad" decides to do this three or four more times this year? How much is too much? Look at this the other way. Any Dad should be saying to his son, hey there is a 12 point near your stand go get him and good luck. He seems pretty selfish to me. We all let emotions cloud our decisions and I am glad I was never in this situation as my dad would have never considered this in the first place. Hell he would turn my butt in without hesitation. HUNTER INSANITY even effects families. Hunter competition and greed is a recipe for disaster just waiting to happen.

The shot was further back then I would have liked but the snyper broad head really did a number on her

So my wife wanted to come sit across the street in this new property I've been hunting. She doesn't like heights so I put her under this big bush and put some branches around her and gave her some shooting lanes. So after I get her all setup I go over to my climber about 600 feet away and get all set up. Half an hour later I hear a deer running over by my wife.....I'm thinking GREAT she got one! Then I see the doe walking and stop. She takes another shot at her and hits some branches and misses. I'm in my stand crackin up when I hear some snorting going on to my right and here comes another doe snorting at my wife not even looking at me. I stopped her at 25 yards and let one fly. POP is all I heard...like I hit my target bag. Low gut shot....I couldn't belive hit her there. She ran 10 yards and layed down in the stream infront of me for an hour. When she got up and left so did we. Whent back out 3 hours later with my buddy and recovered her thank god. She went about 300 yards. Wish I had pics but it was 9pm sunday and had to butcher her up and head back home.

Really? Why don't you and I go up in the NZ and fill our doe permits? These freaking blanket statewide comments make me sick

I see the benefits every year. I can't say how many times I have spotted that flash of orange even before I could tell there was a hunter out there. Even when the lighting isn't all that great that blaze orange catches attention. I am always hoping that when that other guy is swinging his scope across the woods intent on settling it in on a deer maybe it will be that little flash of orange that I'm wearing that will stop him from pulling that trigger. I know that it has stopped some petty unsafe stand set-ups from happening. It's not all that rare that I have had to move to another stand because I spotted that orange of another hunter posted in the area. Yeah, I'm a believer ..... pretty much fanatical about it.

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Know what I find funny. Guys take all the time to do all they can to be scent free then hop on a gas operated machine with gas and exhaust smells and park it 200 yards form where they plan to hunt. I wonder how many deer walk toward you and get near the 4 wheeler smell it or see it and turn away. The old guy we used to hunt with always said if you can not walk there, do not go there. That always stuck in my head and we used to do some long walks for sure.

Photo shoot in the woods? You look like a model out there.

fresh out of sterling

Personally no I would not turn him in. I also would not hunt with him any longer and I would tell him why. I have lost or left behind hunting partners and friends and honestly family who decided to break the rules.

Oh golly, I thought from the title this was some kind of "If it was last call at the bar...........would you?" thread. Sorry.................

I wouldn't even bother paper tuning it... it's a different bow you're not used to... i'd just practice shooting it and then maybe walk back tune it if need be. seems I've had better luck with older quality bows with getting the left and right dead on from the start. I think it's because they flex less and aren't loading up to store so much energy as with the newer bows.

If you killed 6 year old bucks that were 4 Points then you have killed some of the rarest bucks in the world (unless its a 4 point with a 16-20 inch spread) because in the whitetail world that happens so infrequently that it is nearly non-existent. Unless you live in a place that is entirely made of rock with no vegetation and the deer have nothing nutritious to eat... and even then they would most likely die of malnutrition before they reached 6... it is true that a bucks antlers can start to decline when they get older, but usually not until they are much older than six... and they never revert back to a small 4 point ... normally they lose mass and maybe a g-3 or g-4 point... but their rack will still not be mistaken for a yearling buck... even a slightly malnourished buck will still have a better than average rack at 6 unless he's had an injury that causes his rack to dwarf... 99.999 % of older bucks do have bigger racks period.

i personally would not be bothered if AR's were put into place in all WMU's. i personally have a bar higher then AR's anyway but thats just me. i mean really, how many people would really be affected so bad by this? so you shoot a deer with 3 points on one side.. lay off the spikes and fork horns, is it really that bad?? i mean give it one season or 2 and that WMU will be seeing more legal deer for sure and bigger ones then the guys who shoot any small buck they see for the "meat". i understand some guys want to use their tags how they see fit, i get it. but i mean really, its not the end or the world for AR's.

Shot our limit of mallards (all drakes) plus two bonus geese over a small crayfish pond. We're shy one mallard because we lost him into some super thick grass that neither us nor the dog could find, but to be fair we counted him as a kill.

better than you in case you havnt takin a look at the harvest thread lately...

Just got back from tracking a 10 with my friend at night and we got him. He's thrilled as it's his first nice buck with the bow. Dressed 160 and was chasing.

This is the first good buck I've seen so far all year. I made a mock scrape here ~10 days ago and keep it freshened, every couple of days. I make one in this same spot every year and it gets a lot of attention during the rut.

Ahhh. He shot the first on last years tag in the early NZ season 9/27-9/30. Some unused tags carry over to the next early season in the NZ but no doe permits.

Yep....Put a camera out....Sheesh, the good old boy Delaware County hunters are rolling over in their graves!

I spent 2 - 1/2 months in the hospitle,took my foot off of my leg.Thanks to the doctor that spent plenty of time fixing combat injuries put my ankle back together with 5 pins and 7 screws,I somehow got staff infection,every 3 days the would take the cast off do a blood and visiual test then a new cast went on. had the staff inf. dormant until I would aggrivate the angle by hitting it into something ,Then I would go on meds.Now that Dr. said (and keep this in mind) that when you brake a bone you will eventualy get arthritis in that area.He was right 15 years later I could not put a sheet over my foot at night the pain was just too much( and I am not a pill junkey and stand a good amount of pain) Eventualy the immoblized the ankle and a month later I was up in the Catskills Hunting, thanks to a great doctor.BR.After the 2 -1/2 month stay in the hospitle, My friends took me Rifel hunting ( I was still in a half cast ) Set me up in a beach chair wrapped me in a blanket ( no cell phones then ) My Rem. 742 with an extra clip. Had Does walking around me all day,No bucks.And the one year we did not get a party permit,A memory I will never forget.That was 20 years ago when I had the ankle fusion ( which people tell me I do not have it) and still can walk up and down the hills.

I agree with ^

This and the wind drying out my contacts is why I hate hunting in the wind

Over the winter I am fabricating one of these and I won't even have to pick up the deer to place on the wheeler. http://www.mackspw.com/Item--i-FHHH?src=Y0807GL0N0N10000&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA&gclid=CKGR5PmlvLoCFc2h4AodMxcADg Now if I can just find a way to scare the guts out of them!!!..LOL

4 wheelers are for wimps, old geezers and handicap hunters. Bunch of sissy's afraid to walk a little. I don't know why most of you have them getting a deer out, you never kill any! hahahahahahaha that should fire them up,

Welcome. I guess fromt he picture and your name you are a fan of Hemlock lake as well.

Obviously - but neither is mature Then why choose a system where the best of the 1.5 are legal to shoot and are in fact targeted. In 7j and h, nearly 2/3 of the 1.5 are 6 or better. If hunters truly care about balancing age structure, they will learn to get a feel for the age of bucks and quit killing the young ones just because they meet an arbitrary points number. I am in no way trying to argue that there are no positives to letting bucks get older - I do it myself and talk to others about it all the time for education. What I am saying is don't make a system mandatory that sounds good short term, but will have have little long term statistical difference in much of the state. Especially when the mind set will be a 1.5 or 2.5 is great as long as it has X number of points. Education while slower, will have a real long term effect when hunters learn to understand it. But as a society we want the quick fix feel good solution even if it is no fix at all.

My Saturday morning was spent on a pond in Ontario County. We have been hunting it for many years, some very productive and others not so much. Just Jenny and I again this year. Not a great morning but certainly time well spent.

Nice! I've been driving my little work beater car (04 hyundai elantra) to my camp and I've been wondering where I'm gonna put a deer if I kill one lol. I guess over the trunk is a good option since the inside of the trunk is filled with gear most the time. I shot a 6 point years ago and we had my uncles jeep since he was borrowing my dad's truck to move some things one weekend. We ended up spreading the body cavity overtop the spare tire on back and kinda wrapping the deer around the tire lol. People were honking and giving us a thumbs up all the way home lol.

limited out on geese and the ducks will be this weekend, i wont hunt my honey hole until my brother can hunt with me

Surf was up last weekend - the wind can chill your jazz. Sat. late afternoon hunt I'm hunting a friends camp, in a hang on stand med size tree trying to keep my balance. Noticed a doe making noise 50 yards out @ 10 oclock, nice buck behind her with his nose to her. They are quartering to me - she stops in range and he strolls closer. Now he's @ 11 then 12 oclock.25 yards close but behind lots of twigs and the steven king tree. You've all heared it before - but if he took 5 more yards, just 5 yards into the lane I was up. I watched the whole picture come together then she moved off and he turned to follow - the whole picture came apart.

Light draw bow? So women and kids who hunt with 40# shouldnt either? Im trying to understand that thought.

Should I bite on this one?

I scouted there for the last 2 weeks. No sign at all. No scraps, no rubs, no scat. Nothing. I need a new place to hunt.

Definitely heating up...I took this 8Pt after watching him chase a 6Pt and a 3 or 4Pt, plus he was grunting a lot and rubbed a tree. They hung around for about 20 minutes until he finally presented me with about a 18 - 20 yard shot after chasing the 6 Pt for the second time.

And one fact is if you shoot a 6 pt at 1.5 it never gets older.

It is my understanding that a first year spike has the potential to mature into a trophy if given the time to grow.

I've never hunted it.... But it's big woods and steep terrain

ADKhunter 1590 said "they just left the cans laying all over the place." This is what i hate about people using scents at all.Always have scent wicks and empty bottle in the woods.If you take it in take it out unless its biodegradable.

they are in all counties