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You can't kill them from the couch.

Finally got my photobucket account straightened out... Pics from saturday:

now it's my turn: 1) I didn't say you stole the picture. I did say by taking it for your own avatar you are using someone else's work to represent yourself. 2) yes, it was worth my time to PM you about it as I was very surprised someone would do that while hoping the owner would not notice. 3) you used the word "insane" and "whack job" to describe the person inquiring about your own selfish actions. 4) you used the "whack job" again in your next post. we have another guy on this forum that regularly throws out those and other similar insults. we all know from the crossbow threads who he is. you really don't want to be like him. yes, in your first PM reply to my inquiry you did say that you used the photo because it was a beautiful picture. next after my reply to your reply you sated that "it was hardly a work of art". can't you see that you have contradicted yourself here in an lame effort to downplay actions which you probably knew were wrong from the get go. as "Wooly" stated, there is a lot of hard work that goes into capturing images of wildlife, and in the eye of the beholder wildlife photos are absolutely "works of art".

Not even THIS couch?

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I'm another going with my Bow Madness. Never killed a spring gobbler with the bow, only a few fall deer season coincidental turkey kills. Since I don't get super fired up over turkey hunting, failure wont be too hard to swallow, but success could be super sweet!

Don't forget the hot brunette in the back seat wearing short shorts! Lol!

I would have laughed and said "nice photo" but then again, Phade gave our best trail cam shot last year to Covert to use on its website. Probably would have been nice to ask first and there are some on here that are pretty serious about trying to catch really unbelieveably nice shots (magazine type photos) so I can see why they may be ticked if it was used without permission. You are welcome to use any photos I post if you like. lol Just apologize and move on - one of those simple misunderstandings and you have removed it. He didn't make it a public dispute so you really shouldn't either.

Don't be bitter. Some guys put a lot more time and effort into getting a quality pic than some may dedicate into a season of hunts. To just snag someones pic without asking is a slap in the face, almost like you're taking credit for the work that went into it.(..yes, there is work involved) I think the pic you're talking about was skyhunters. He also has a copyright attached to his photos and offers them for sale. Ask first to avoid all the unnecessary drama that comes after the fact.

All of the threads have been posted. If I missed someone, PM me to let me know. I will be creating the contest cards tonight and tomorrow, once they are done I will be posting them in the individual threads.

Ive had my fair share of Chevys over the years Lawdwaz. I learned my lesson. LOL The sitting around issues arent limited to Chevys, my opinion on that applies to any vehicle thats sat around alot.

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finally got it home after renting an enclosed trailer

I went for a hike today and got on some more gobblers! I heard one gobble on his own as soon as the snow stopped and the sun peaked out. I found an old downed tree to hide behind, so I quick set out my rubber chicken,lol I gave a few excited calls and I heard some serious double gobbling coming my way, so I got tucked in and waited. Birds were on a dead run to my decoy. First to show up was 5 hens, and then a jake and a longbeard stopped by for a little dance off before they moved up the hill to strut and gobble. They left the ladies behind, and I literally had hens within 5ft of me for about 10 minutes straight. I'm think I'm kinda starting to get the hang of this spring turkey stuff! Heck, I even found another antler! Before all the turkey got a chance to leave the area, this little deer showed up and practically kissed me.

With the trespasser crap I've had to put up with on opening morning of rifle season 3 of the last 4 years, I'd offer money for one to hunt with me. Hell, I'd give him food and lodging!

What if... The DEC guy was doing something illegal! Oh snap.

Update: The euro is coming along nicely. I taped him out at 160 gross typical and 170 2/8" nontypical. His larger left side scored just over 81"...not too bad for a NY buck. Don't know yet whether or not I'll have him professionally measured or not.

ok so if you cant find a hot bird than there are none around. you should be fine lol thats alot of ground to cover. you could walk from 6am to 12 locating birds...Goodluck!

Mossberg 535 24" barrel and a red dot.

2 years ago I shot my 1st on the opener at about 1150. He came in screaming to.

Thank you for putting this on, it's people like you, WNYBuckHunter, who make this sport fun and exciting. Good luck to all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Youtube it. Basically set the bird on a stake, cover with a metal can and have charcoal around the outside bottom of can. Turns out pretty good

If you go the burning route, I'd at least sink a few arrows in it before sending it up in smoke. Make it exciting....., dowse that sucker in gasoline, and light it up with a flaming arrow "Duke Boys" style,lol

Get rid of it . You might pizz someone off and they might turn you in out of spite . Uhhhhhhh , drop it off at someone's home that you don't like .

Out of say ten turkeys ive shot, 9 have come between 930 and noon. Ill agree, cant get em from the couch!

K9, It definitely is worth it. I've shot birds late in the morning and close to noon, in one case about 11:50. Often the a hen the gobbler is with will nest up a few hours after sun-up and the gobbler will look for another hen. In some states where hunting afternoon is allowed they shoot them in the afternoon. Good luck.

Yes, many turkey are shot well after 8 and when henned up the toms are more receptive to calling after the hens leave to lay egg.. 830-1200 noon. My nephew got his bird at 845 this Past sunday. Later in am is also good when bad weather as turkeys will stay on roost longer up to 2-hrs past sunrise.

I'm not in any way saying shooting Jake's is bad or sayin I don't shoot to harvest meat, I'm all against antler restrictions, I don't think it's right to be the judge of what some one wants to shoot or should shoot or what's the best to shoot, I just choose to practice not shooting Jake's or smaller bucks out of personal preference, not because it's the best way, or the way it should be, I'd rather see more kids and people getting into the sport , not deter them from it by restricting them on what they can harvest, Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

Seeing as the laws and regs arent set yet, maybe people shouls wait to form an opinion on it. The reasons you have always given for being agains crossbows have never had anything to do with the way the laws were written. Dont try to rewrite history, like you try to rewrite Wikipedia articles....

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common courtesy is to ask. You're not doing anything wrong unless you're trying to profit off it. But again, common courtesy would be to ask. It would be a compliment.

Easy there Mopar Mad Man............................. My 2002 Chevy Silverado was a window motor eater too. I replaced 4 IIRC. Front wheel hubs? You wouldn't believe it. Brakes? How about three times for front and rear, pads & rotors. One the dealer paid for and two out of my pocket. 125K on it IIRC when I traded it on the Tacoma.

You're probably right, he IS the greatest. Slam dunk at 237? Heck its a World Record One of the best shots in the world? He is now...................... I wonder if the Guinness Book of World Records excepts Youtube video?

My homemade mouth calls....always my go to

Had to re-order forms 2x, moved(repositioned) leg and turned head to make this custom bear mount.

On a completely unrelated note, nice job on taking the class with your daughter. Dads should be more like you rather than dropping the kids off for the class. I see that all too often. Sometimes those discussions are great opportunities to instill the long-term values a hunter should have.

The first turkey I ever killed back in 1981 was plucked in the basement at home. OMG..........OMG.........what a mistake THAT was. Did I mention that was the last turkey I ever plucked? YMMV.............But if you're going to pluck one, do it on a windy day.

(by my nephew ryan) My First Turkey! The first day of my hunt was starting to be a beautiful day. My uncle woke me up at 5:00 am and told me to get my camouflage on while he made me breakfast (pancakes, waffles and eggs). After breakfast we set out into the woods. We started along a path that led to another path that was taken on two sides by a thick forest and a large meadow. We found a good spot and sat there and waited and waited.turkeys were gobbling on the roost across the meadow from us. Around 7:00 after seeing that nothing was calling back to us or "the turkeys weren't talking" as my uncle said. We got up and walked straight through the meadow. We heard turkey's gobble where we just left. We started to make our way back over but there were 3 hunters coming up the hill that spooked the turkey , they saw us and they left. After that we walked a lot and arrived at a field where we could see two toms and a hen. We started to make our way over to them but we kicked up some deer. The deer almost trampled the turkeys as both the deer and turkeys left the field. We pursued the turkeys only to hear them crossing the road out of reach. We started walking up a hill back to my uncles house and came to the same path that started our journey. A heavy rain set in and made everything more difficult. We went back to the house and changed our clothes so we could go out to lunch. The second day was a lot shorter time on the actual hunting part. I was awakened at 4:30 am by my uncle. This time we didn't eat breakfast. Outside the air was chilling. We left the house at 5:10 am and departed to start our walk. Around quarter to six we reached our destination. It was here that a game of calling and response occurred. The game lasted for about 25 minutes when one of the Two toms started down the trail towards us. He was not within my effect range by about 10 yards.Right as i would of gotten a clear shot he spotted me putted and flew away! While doing this he let all the other turkeys within a 200 yard radius know I was there. We got up and he took me to an new area about 1/2 a mile away at about 8 am At some point we came across a corn field and there was a tom turkey in it. We called to it but it spooked and snuck back into the woods. We pursued it.in the direction it had headed While walking in quietly, i heard a gobble, we sat and called he would gobble back, after 15 min, I looked to my left and 50 yards away it was walking towards us. I got a clear shot at 40 yrds and took it! After it was dead I carried him back to the house where my uncle showed me how to gut and clean him.... (THIS WAS HIS LEAST FAVORITE PART lol) We called the DEC to report the harvest. In the aftermath I learned the importance of wildlife in the woodland ecosystem and what a huge step it is to take a creature's life. By Ryan Van Splunder

With all the complaining we do about lawbreakers, I would think we'd all want a DEC officer hunting with us.

If the crossbow is considered archery , why isn't there an archery safety class ?

Why does one need to sit through a long course to earn their archery license but no course required to hunt deer in archery season with a xgun? I can see it now......deer drives November 1st.

This was my 12 year old son, Steven's, first time turkey hunting since taking and passing the sportsman's education course this past October. He decided that his first hunt would be this years Youth Spring Turkey Hunt. Last weekend my father in law gave him a 20 y.o. Savage 20ga side by side shotgun with double trigger. He also gave him a 410 which he had a blast shooting at the Calverton range. He was afraid to use the Savage and I did not push the issue. During our car ride up this past Friday afternoon we got to talking about the 410 not having enough knockdown power and that he should consider using the 20ga when we went into the field the following morning. Well he didn't give it much thought and half way up he decided that he felt confident to shoot the 20ga. I said ok and left it at that. Saturday morning's hunt started out with the two of us trying to sneak to our blind when we didn't realize we were set up right below a roost. We ended up spooking 5 big ones and heard them soar like helicopters onto the neighboring property. We get to the area where I had previously set up the ground blind and it was missing. So in pouring rain I'm cursing under my breath that someone stole it. I thought to myself I'm not going to let this ruin his first hunt. After about 5 minutes I found the blind upside down along a path inside tall brush. After resetting up the blind we sat there trying to dry off and heard nothing. Then the rain stopped and shortly thereafter the gobbles started. He was shaking in his pants from excitement. They were far off in the distance but close enough to get him hooked. After a few hours on Saturday, we see two young jakes coming out from the tall brush and enter a cut corn field about 150 yards to our right. I start soft calling on my glass call. They start moving at an angle closer toward us but heading for the woods. Eventually they disappear into the treelike. About 30 minutes later my son spots two hens coming out of the woods in the corner of the property just opposite the front of our blind. Following not even 5 minutes later were 4 jakes. All 6 were heading into the cut corn field. I had a jake and hen decoy out and I started purring on my glass call. The jakes danced around for a few minutes but eventually continued on their way just out of the 20ga range. Needless to say although they were too far my son was excited to see them that close. At 10:30 he was bored after not seeing anything for about 2 hours so we called it a day. Saturday night he says to me lets get out there earlier on Sunday. So I said Ok and asked him what time. He said lets be in the blind by 5:00am. After another sleepless night for me, (He was sound asleep all night) I'm up at 3:30am and head downstairs to put wood in the wood stove. About 30 minutes later I hear footsteps walking along the hallway and down he comes dressed and ready. I said it's still too early. We sat and talked for a while and he says to me I feel that I'm going to get me a turkey today. I said lets hope so. He wanted to get in there before they flew down from above us. At 4:45 we head out to our blind and by 5:00 we are sitting patiently in the blind. Unfortunately they decided to roost all the way on the other side of the property on the neighbor's land. Sitting there listening to them gobble their heads off on the roost made me a bit disappointed and I thought to myself well they have about 600 yards to make there way toward us and we only had 3 hours to hunt today. Nevertheless, he was all excited and raring to go sitting there listening to the Toms gobbling. About 6:30 we are glassing the fields and we see 4 turkeys about 500 yards away across the fields, tall brush, a stream and a pond. I start soft calling and purring and they start to gobble. I call again and they continue. This goes on for about 20 minutes but they are moving from our right to our left still at 500 yards away. I'm thinking to myself Steven is not going to connect today. Then out of nowhere without a peep at about 6:50 two jakes pop their heads out of the brush about 40 yards directly across from our blind. I grab my glass call and start purring. One starts to gobble. Steven grabs the 20 and slowly puts the butt up against his right shoulder and places the fore end on my Primos trigger stick for support. The jakes start walking toward us but at an angle to our right and toward the woods. All the while I'm soft calling and they stop, look and continue. My son has his 20 still pointing straight out of the blind and he can't maneuver it toward the right. I slowly grab the trigger stick and help him lift and angle the 20 toward the two jakes. The jakes get to about 15 yards to our right at a real awkward angle and they stop about 10 feet apart or so. I say to Steven, pick one and shoot whenever you are ready. I hear the safety go "click" and then the next thing I hear is "BOOM!" One jake runs and takes off and the other hobbles its way toward us, crosses not 15 feet from our blind and drops in a heap just off to our left another 10 feet away. We look at each other and the expression on Steven's face was indescribable. He could not believe he just shot his first jake. We hug, and he just sits there. I say "what are you waiting for, lets go get your gobbler"! He tears off his face mask and we run over to where he laid down in a pile and without even saying anything to him, he says to me "Dad, lets kneel down beside him and thank God for the opportunity". I was speechless. He weighed in at about 18lbs with a 5inch beard and stubs for spurs. I think the pictures describe his experience a lot better than I did!

Personally the biggest issue in handling the local population booms in the deer herd is access. If the hunters can't get to the deer, a tractor trailer load of tags won't help. I think the 150' change was set to help that but I sure would like to see some active role out of DEC to assist in access. Don't know how it could be done but that is my take.

Only reason one would be concerned is if one has something to hide.

Unless that person is an actual ECO, and not a specialist or other non-ECO role, yes. If it was an ECO role, then yes, as well. Sometimes you get more with honey.

He would be handy if there was a tresspasser !

Definitely. Why not?

That's a big pile of dookie. The DEC is a good resource. But, they also aren't going to rank in the top 10 or 15, or top 20 of comparative agencies across the land. Just because you get 6 tags doesn't mean you should shoot 6 does. I'm sorry, but it doesn't. That's the #1 way states, even those with GREAT hunting and deer quality, get in trouble. I'm sorry, but it just is. Case in point the past few years have been Ohio, Iowa, and Kansas. Ohio fared the best out of these three states because their system allowed for quicker changes in the deer seasons. You must not remember the big decline in deer numbers about 10 years ago. Where did that originate from? The DEC and hunter complicity. It took them a year or two, but they finally admitted they missed the mark in the population decline. A similar issue is going on in a majority of whitetail states right now - harvest numbers are going down. Iowa is hurting - despite it being the mecca of whitetails. The right answer is using the DEC info as a guideline and your tangible, physical knowledge of your immediate (within a deer's home range) hunting area to make the right decision. That's hunter responsibility, not complying with state management plans outright and taken for scripture. Sometimes not filling a tag is the right call.

You are correct based on my observations...I've seen some bucks that blow up after they hit 3 years old and others that don't really reach the level that you are expecting them too. Good luck with that guy this fall. Just remember that if you kill him you won't be able to find his sheds next spring!

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