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  1. I just finished this tonight. I do mine own that way they are personable. the other pic is of the ones I have done for myself. the one in the middle is the one I got this bow season
    5 points
  2. I plan to use some drones next year to verify whether forum members actually unload their weapons and leave their stands before legal shooting time ends. LOL Phade will use one to spy on Doc. He's got to be using a treestand at least some of the time! LOL Paula will send one over Bubba's cabin. She likes Bubba and wants to get a look at him from all different angles. LOL Pygmy will send one over Growalot's property. Pygmy can chime in on the reasons why. LOL
    5 points
  3. If you are worried about the perception of hunters in the eyes of non-hunters, what you're advocating is banning contests and making laws that will control hunting more to placate the anti's. Banning lead ammo and hunting contests are just two infringements. What's to stop the momentum after it gets started? Seems to me we are opening a door towards a total ban on hunting. I'd rather see hunters unite to elect pro-hunting politicians that would be inclined to pass a law recognizing hunting as a traditional right that cannot be eliminated. Other states have done it. Why not NY? If we do not push back against any and all attacks on hunting, we will soon find we have lost the war altogether.
    5 points
  4. Geeze...Sitting in a treestand in pitch dark for an hour and a half.. That sounds like lots of fun...Like whacking myself in the groin with a hammer or giving myself an enema with a turkey baster full of tabasco sauce...
    4 points
  5. 12-9-14 Late season success on the timbered edge of a goldenrod field. I sat on my stump daydreaming about shed season and all the antlers I'd be scooping up from the field behind me in the coming months. I had a sudden snap back to reality at 3pm when all of a sudden out of nowhere movement woke me up 25yds in front of me. This guy was casually following behind a young doe fawn and she led him right by me at 15yds before the ML swept him off his feet. He piled up about 40yds away, and when I arrived at his carcass I discovered he knocked an antler off when he crashed. I grabbed a few quick picures, and with sunset fast approaching I made a quick run home to grab a sled to make the drag out a little easier and protect his antler that was still attached. At home I realized I had this bucks antlers from last season which I included in these pics, and that I killed him just over 100yds away from where I had found those antlers last spring. This was the kind of hunt that made me thankful I could appreciate some of the finer points of the hunt without the size of the antlers clouding my excitement over him!
    4 points
  6. I have hunted this property in Stormville pretty hard during the bow season and passed on 5 different small bucks. I was looking for a mature doe to shoot or a bigger buck, but I never go the opportunity on either. Out of nowhere, this guy came in right on a doe and it was an easy shot with the muzzleloader at 50 yds. I have never seen this buck in person or on camera, but he seems to be related to a similar one I shot two years ago. They both have the same small brow tines and both had big bodies. I shot this one no more than 50 yds. from the other one. I guess that is a good spot to leave that stand!
    3 points
  7. I don't get the whole "what hunting has become" comments. Hunting contests aren't some new invention by a new attitude hunter or new generation. They have been around for years. Longer than I have been hunting and that is 37 years. Every bar, Elks lodge and such, the area that I grew up had big buck contests. The Fish and Game club near me had events as well. I remember a rabbit contest. To me they are more social events than trying to win prizes on the back of the poor innocent game animals. What's next, we gonna start seeing protest of fishing contests?
    3 points
  8. when the temperatures are mild (40's) i'll head in about 45 minutes before legal light. When it's cold out, I'll head in at legal light +/- 5 minutes. I'm not interested in wasting time just getting cold. I would rather have the extra time during legal shooting hours.
    3 points
  9. I'm still in bed, have yet to shower , eat, dress , drive 32 miles, walk in......
    3 points
  10. I like to be in my stand before sunrise but not if it means walking through a herd of them on the way in.I would say each situation is unique depending on the deer movement and the access you have to get to your stand.
    3 points
  11. I don't think non-hunters are as concerned about these contests as animal rights fanatics and the anti-lead crowd are. People who live in areas where coyotes and crows have gotten way out of hand certainly aren't against the contests. People who live in urban areas might have issues with them, but then again, when are they not trying to tell everyone else what to do? People really should be more concerned about the perceived image of Americans around the world than the image of hunters here. With a clown like Obama as President making America look stupid and weak, and his entire lawless, corrupt administration, I think this country's non-hunters have a lot more to be concerned about at this moment in time.
    3 points
  12. I shot this buck on 11/30/14 in the Adirondacks (Hamilton County) after tracking him for 4 hours 23 minutes (I originally claimed 5.5 hours in a FB post, I was incorrect according to my GPS) and covering 5.2 miles. I missed (deflected bullet) him once about halfway through the journey, but was able to connect when he got distracted by a doe and followed her across an opening in front of me. After shooting him I realized I had trail cam pictures of him last year over 2 miles from where I took up his track this year. These big woods bucks have large ranges! This was probably the most memorable hunt I've ever had, and boy did I have to work for it! Based on last year's trail cam pics and his tooth wear, which was at least as much as the 5 year-old 8pt (cementum annuli aged) I shot about a mile from there in 2012, I estimate this buck to be at least that old as well, perhaps even one year older. I will send his teeth in too to confirm. Gross green score of 131 and change. Brows are over 5 and 7" and bases are just shy of 5". The picture(s) I posted on FB last week generated a lot of comical comments about practicing shooting more, aiming better, and only taking ethical shots. Those folks don't realize that tracking is not blood trailing. They don't go 5.2 miles after a heart shot either. With tracking, you follow the buck BEFORE you shoot it... P.S. I wrote a much more detailed story of this hunt but I am going to see if I can get a magazine to buy it. They require it be unpublished material, which unfortunately includes posting it on an internet forum. If things go well, hopefully I will be able to post the story at a later date. (Sorry NYantler) Not something I normally look at, I thought this graph of my walking speed was interesting. (From GPS) Trail cam pics from 2013: Making a mock scrape:
    2 points
  13. Almost forgot an important one. Biz-R-O will send one over Four Season Whitetail's deer pen. The drone will be carrying scissors, and he'll guide it over Four Season's head to cut off his mullet. LOL
    2 points
  14. I need better looking neighbors before I shell out $400-600 on a drone...lol
    2 points
  15. IMO, it's only irresponsible because he didn't practice at that distance or know exactly where to aim. Had he done both and the conditions were right, no wind and deer standing still, there would be nothing wrong with a 60yd shot. It's done all the time successfully out west in open fields on deer, antelope, elk, etc. if I ever go to Wyoming with my xbow, I will make sure I can shoot out to at least 60 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    2 points
  16. Any hunter can make an irresponsible shot. The weapon doesn't matter. That said, I wouldn't want the thread poster in my woods. He's a risk.
    2 points
  17. So how many hunter do you think are going out to hunt coyotes for this contest that wouldn't be anyway? Do you believe that it would be so easy to just pick up a gun, go out and bag a few yotes in an attempt to win that contest? Do you think the public does? I know guys that do quite a bit of squirrel hunting and actually take part in the squirrel slam. This doesn't draw them out for the event. Quite differently, they don't hit areas they normally would and save those for the day of the event. So if as a hunter we take a dozen squirrels a year but choose to schedule one day afield to coincide with an social activity, I don't see the harm. Anyone that looks at these contests myopically and doesn't understand that the hunting activity still takes place even without a contest do not understand what really happens.
    2 points
  18. Breaking News: The fight between Doc and Phade has spilled into the street.
    2 points
  19. Beautiful view. I want to live where you do.
    2 points
  20. You are talking in circles. You just said I thought wrong. Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth there doc. If you were talking about ground stands you would have stated such after I questioned you on it and you KNEW what i was talking about. My question never included the word tree. I said...stand. you said i thought wrong. That proves you knew what i was talking about. Youre just backpedaling now. You pretty clearly tried to make a story that defended your position because it supported your belief.I usually think whether I disagree with you, you bring up points that are valid for positions I may not agree with. But this is clearly a case where you can't say changing the law would result in a safety decrease. Enough states do this that one can reasonably be assured that it is an effective law that does not impact safety. All you have to go on is anecdotal stories. These states are laws. Laws. If there were a safety issue with it, they'd change quickly. They havent been and won't be. Face it NY is on the wrong side of this law and it should be changed.
    2 points
  21. As I said almost a year ago today; that next February and March the clubs from Greene NY and Holley NY with their respective "crow down" and "squirrel slam" will again bring attention to the media. These annual events enable the antis to organize better and engage more people each year. These contests have also helped the antis win new friends, increase their donations and build the size of their memberships. Several politicians such as Tony Avella grandstand on this every year as well, as a matter of fact he sponsored a bill to ban hunting contests for the very same people who protest the Greene and Holley events. Ironically, organizers of these events have boasted that the negative attention has increased contest entrees. That boast is very narrow-minded and demonstrates lack of situational awareness and common sense. The antis have raised a number of issues with these contests. The most compelling argument they have is the introduction of lead into the food chain if large numbers of carcasses are dumped and/or game is not retrieved or lost. Since that is 100% accurate and lead in the food chain is indeed an impact, the clubs should concede to the use of non toxic ammo. Any individual, club, or organization who argues against this is further damaging the image of hunting and credibility of hunters. There are a number of additional measures these clubs can and should take to make these events more palatable to the public majority. By now, they should also expect protests and be prepared to address them appropriately. If they do not have such a plan in place they are not being mindful of the rest of the sporting community.
    2 points
  22. I just find it amazing how some can willingly admit to breaking some laws because it on accident or there are grey areas but you say you follow hunting laws to the T. I speed I set my cruise in 72 in a 65 because I know that is what I can do with minimal risk. I do not stare at my watch to the second for legal shooting times, I have let deer walk even though I could have killed them because I knew it was too early/late. If I am watching the news or reading the paper and I see someone caught doing 100mph I think "wow what a dummy" there is a big difference between me and 95% of other drivers doing a little faster than the speed limit and someone doing double the speed limit. It's the same thing as someone shooting minutes before or after legal hrs and some one shooting a deer at midnight with a spot light, there is a HUGE difference!
    2 points
  23. If you speed you are a Criminal If you poach you are a Criminal Your just deciding which one you are proud of...Law is Law.
    2 points
  24. Respectfully, that's not quite what I meant. Hunters are much more likely to interact with non-hunters on a daily basis than FWS staff are. in my experience, that is where opinions of non-hunters are swayed. Most non-hunters have very little idea what the FWS is or what they do, sadly. But they do know someone that hunts-- their uncle, a friend-of-a-friend, etc. Those interactions change opinions, for better or worse. I also by no means was suggesting that we tell each other what to do. I only wanted to present the fact that what you, I, and all the hunters do in the public eye does indeed have an impact on hunting in the future. These days, sadly, the public eye includes social media. I actually am completely with you in that we should be more united, not less. Kind regards.
    2 points
  25. Just remember, it's not what time you arrive at your final destination that matters..., only that you arrive alive! Whether that's to Grandmas house for X-mas dinner or the end of deer season... At the end of the day we all want to return home whether we spent the day at work or in the woods. The rules ARE only guidelines for us to follow. Written law is just a way to punish offenders and hold them accountable for their own actions when the limits get pushed too far.
    2 points
  26. Yes- it does. I have a moderate online following of people from all walks of life and I sometimes discuss hunting. Nearly all of them are non-hunters (which is different from an anti-hunter). They do not hunt but are not against it. But time and time again when contests (where the objective is to shoot the most of ____) come up, they are all pretty universally against contests and find them very off-putting. Including some of the professional biologists and ecologists I know. A few of them (biologists/ecologists) even hunt and live rurally. Leaving it up to the FWS to create and/or maintain an 'image' for hunters is very short-sighted. I am not suggesting that everyone worry about what others think, but taking a moment or two to think about image when doing something hunting-related in the public eye can, in fact, impact the future of hunting for all of us.
    2 points
  27. I'm just glad I'm getting OLD....<<sigh>>.... Not gonna have to listen to this anti-hunter BS much longer.
    2 points
  28. I'm sure you're right about pulling deer completely off of one property for another... I was talking about travel patterns... I would bet that patterns change at the slightest addition or elimination of a food source... just like humans might be able to be patterned from the couch to the frig pretty regularly... but if I put a jar of cookies in the basement... I'm sure the trail to the basement would become a new place of heavy travel... animals aren't much different. A simple pattern change could detour the deer right away from ones treestand
    2 points
  29. I think people that have a hard time believing there are some that can pass on a good buck at the last minute are usually speaking about how they would handle that situation and would like to think they have company... which I'm sure you do... just not with me... and I'm sure a few others on here with integrity
    2 points
  30. No offense taken. If I can get a hunting story published I could join both my Uncle, Granddad, and Great-Granddad as members of my family that have hunting stories published and that would be pretty cool. Financially, I probably wouldn't quit my day job to become a freelance writer, but I'll admit; I have spent a LOT of money on hunting one way or another. If there was a way to get a little kick back now and again, I wouldn't be ashamed to take it. I certainly won't sell my sheds and don't aspire to be a TV star either.
    2 points
  31. I watched the only Canvasback I have ever seen in my life fly up the river across the same scene in the picture. I'm losing track of how many Bald eagles I have seen over the years. I got a picture of one just around the corner a few years back.
    1 point
  32. Phade, the cookie jar analogy is perfect as far as trying to pattern deer. LOL
    1 point
  33. I clean up the crows I've shot even though I use steel shot. I remind people that coyotes prey on pets and in season hunting doesn't really affect the population numbers. I also remind people that their local farmers like crow and coyote hunters for the most part.
    1 point
  34. How well has this bow to the opinion of the uninformed attitued worked with your gun rights in this state guys? Thats really all I have to say on this.
    1 point
  35. I don't think anyone is debating the legality. The question is about the perception of the contests by the uninformed and whether that perception is damaging to the public image of hunting. It's a perfectly reasonable question.
    1 point
  36. And I would like to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny but it probably will never happen. This past election showed me a lot about hunters and gun owners in terms of their political dedication and resolve. Nobody is advocating placating anyone, but it is useful to recognize that hunters don't exist in a vacuum and before we go charging across the landscape acting like we are some kind of majority force here, a little consideration of how the public perceives us and our activities might be a prudent way to conduct ourselves.
    1 point
  37. couldn't agree more. I've mentioned this a few times and I think you said it better than I ever did. When we share pics with each other it doesn't matter, but pictures online should be tasteful, how you act in public with all your camo on, how the bloody deer is transported in your vehicle etc.
    1 point
  38. 7" here in Amherst. Funny stuff; light fluffy on top/wet heavy & sticky on bottom..........ugly!
    1 point
  39. Not the case. Most speeding tickets are infractions. Taking a deer after/before hours is a violation, not a crime.
    1 point
  40. The above plus routine lawlessness- false tagging, poaching, drivers on posted ground ..... Just wait until we have the early ml season next year in the same areas that pounded by that snow storm. Rifle will expand to a couple more counties to boot. The dec manages license sales- the rest is irrelevant. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    1 point
  41. Congrats, not how I like to find my sheds though. I plan on starting my shedding adventures around the end of the month. Last year, I found the first freshie on 12/27...year before it was 12/15. Can't wait to start looking!
    1 point
  42. luck on the last afternoon! I've been reading on here for quite a while thought it was about time to join and start posting. Good info here - thanks to all
    1 point
  43. I would think you will be able to bow hunt on weekends only. Gun hunting during the month of Jan during the week.
    1 point
  44. Only got four does this year so far. Still have ML season and I am usually pretty luck there. But if I hadn't scored a deer, sitting next to my nephew while he took his first deer ever and it was a nice spike, ranks this as one of the best seasons I have had.
    1 point
  45. I believe 5 and 6 would be the biggest problem in your area. The yote thing will kill your deer hunting for sure but if there were to many you would not be seeing small deer thats for sure. We had great numbers on our land in 6G,8M and 8H. There are so many things that can effect numbers and by having enough land to do your management, Not Ny states management hels big time. I will also say that i drive between Watertown and Mt Morris about every Fri-Sun and i have never seen so many dead deer on the Thruway and #390. 1.Ny's piss poor Mgmt 2 Ny's to long of gun season 3 Ny's failure to have 1 buck a year 4 Ny's failure to have deer harvest check in. 5 Ny failure to have unused tag mail back in.
    1 point
  46. Poaching should be included in that list also ,I was at Farmers Mkt in Edmonston last week to pick some venison up and a Leo was there dropping off some deer that were poached the night before. Eavesdropped on conversation and local amish were caught with 24 deer in one barn and not far away another amish was found to be in posession of 14 deer. Add to that a local lowlife was heard bragging that he shot 27 deer last season . Even if the totals of these deer were cut in half that is still too many , add to that those that don't get caught and it just might tip the scale into the less deer side. NOTE THAT THIS IS SECOND HAND INFO WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY ACCURATE !!
    1 point
  47. Hold up it just got better 3 fox 2 muskrats best day ever for me ..checked alot of empty traps to get these fox today ...hope mom can see this today from above
    1 point
  48. Turkey day double. Had fil and mooog with his daughter on her first tagalong hunt.
    1 point
  49. I have always used single pin. If you sight in at 20 yards with a single pin and then walk up and shoot at 10 then back at 30 you will be shocked to see how close you are on both ends. I would guess that more than half of the bowhunters out there should not be cranking at a deer at over 30 yards in a hunting situation anyways. Myself included.
    1 point
  50. Adirondack 6pt. Saturday afternoon in 5H about 100 yds with my Winchester 100 in .284 Winchester. 139gr Hornady Interlock BTSP with Varget. 1 shot in the neck dropped him like he was hit by a freight train. Not a good picture of his rack though.
    1 point
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