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This really isn't relevant to the topic, but if that was true NYC would not have made the wise choice many years ago of buying upstate land for it's water supply. In other words, is there enough farmland on Long Island to feed 9 million NYC residents? Without importing things like GARLIC from distant places like Asia... Importing is bad, it is not green; locavorism is green... There is no economy without water and food... There can be an economy without fossil fuels and the stock market, but not without water and food... I think the hunting community must learn to work with down state people and downstate politicians, there is much bravado labeling people and being critical, but no action when it comes to forwarding a pro hunting agenda... That being said, in my opinion, if NYC decided to split off, as Washington DC did split from Maryland, both upstate and NYC people would be happier and could focus and attend to their own business, not each others. The cultural differences between the two geographic areas are too wide to reconcile without an excess of unhappy faces... The political gerry-mandering of the legislature, particularly the assembly, creates an over-representation of NYC values across the entire state, and that is what people are complaining about...

I just took some of my overtime $ and bought this muzzleloader. It's the exact one I've been wanting for awhile. I'm going from a Traditions Deerhunter (sidelock) to this, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I've heard good stuff about this gun. I have a lot of fun with my sidelock, but I wanted something to use all season, that could reach out farther than my smooth bore 20ga. I also bought it because they opened rifle in Ontario county where our camp is, & it was either buy a rifle or the ML. I can use the ML anywhere, so I think I got the best of both worlds. It came with a nice camo sling & I bought a camo Nikon coyote special 3 × 9 with stainless steel Weaver rings & base. I got it from Beikirch's in East Rochester. They mounted the scope & bore sighted it too. Those guys are great, I won't go anywhere else.

The Government will protect you

Hey guys just throwing it out there to anybody interested in teaming up for some hunts during the up coming season feel free to pm me and come tag along. Experience level does not matter over the past few years I have been meeting friends off this site I hope to hunt with for a life time! Everyone is welcome to join! There are no fees or dues just trying to get a bunch of guys or girls together to join in on the great harvest this year. Definitely going to be having some game cook offs and everyone is encouraged to donate some harvest of there own! Time to keep this wonderful tradition alive and kicking so some day our kids can enjoy layin em down as well! Good luck and safe hunting!

Went down to FL a few weeks ago and did some hog hunting and duck hunting. Had a blast can't wait to go back again next year. First time duck hunting and I am hooked..... Hog hunting was a blast too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

New Yorkistan. One of the leaders in the fight toward absolute federal control. You either understand the implications, or you don't.

i married a couger

This should be interesting,How many sibling's do you have/or had in your family?I come from a family of 9 brothers and 6 sisters not including myself.

I'd prefer that no one knows anything about what I own. Quite frankly, it's none of their business. The government, federal and state, is trying to make it their business. That's what's troubling.

Shot this guy last night right out behind the house. Never shot a grey before and he has a beautiful full pelt on him so I'm thinking a full body mount for sure.

Just curious, why do you resort to childish insults so often?

Elmo, if it passes, I guess they will either need to upgrade to a chainsaw or log splitter to open those coconuts. Or just have to get a long bit and drill a hole to insert a very long straw.

Bastids......................

Man gotta love a nice gray....

I will end up paying a total of $800 in the end but I brought him a wood duck to do also, so not to bad for both. He just sent me a few teaser photos. He said he still had some tweaking to do and it will be laying down on a rock base.

I heard good things about them, I just went with an iwb from alien gear and am very impressed for the price

Sweet rig Skillet, and good choice! I can't imagine killing a deer with any other gun besides my smokepole any more. She looks like a shooter.., enjoy!

Sunny today, with highs in the upper 80's!

Lighten up, Francis.

And there's their reaction to even scientific opinions on this First Light...

Good timing.........cabin fever reliever.

They've been known to bite too.

I have had a few encounters with cougars. They're aggressive and tend to tear your clothes off.

I got the following e-mail from Fred Neff this morning. Fred was/is involved with the NYSCC and his local federation. He is credited with being the impetus for the NY voluntary habitat and access stamp. Fred also has been a long-time advocate of dove hunting for NY and a key player in it, A change was made to PA's mourning dove season this fall. Can you guess what it was? Well, they added 20 more days to the total season length (including split seasons) - up from 70 days to 90 days. This was the result of a new national dove harvest strategy cooperatively developed by state wildlife agencies and the USFWS that resulted in the 20 day addition in positively affected states in the Eastern Management Unit (EMU) - the 27 easternmost states - whenever dove populations in the EMU exceed 36.5 million birds. Recent EMU dove populations estimates of 95 million doves far exceeded that goal, PA will add their 20 additional days to the front end of the season. And what does NY get? Zero! Nada! Why? Do I really have to go there at this point? The kindest thing I will say at this point is "uninformed state legislators". While we present hard scientific facts and data that proves that sound dove management at both state and federal level (remember that the dove is considered a migratory game bird by the USFWS) poses no threat to dove populations due to hunting, NY legislators (especially our downstate Big Apple who could care less about the matter but have the vote) who fear for their political lives continue to listen to the utterly emotional drivel of our anti-dove friends. I could list a lot, but I'll just list two of the many personal favorites that I've encountered over the years here: "You've driven them to extinction once and they're just coming back". "NY will have major power outages from hunters shooting doves on power lines". Note - I'm still waiting for anyone to show me proof of that one". I've spent 50 years on this one in NY. And I wasn't, and am not, the only one involved in this for sportsmen. And I've heard it all and been through it all. But 40 out of the contiguous US states have a dove season; plus Ontario just opened a dove season. This pretty much sums it up - while on a visit to our home in Utica years ago, my cousin, Ted, from PA, when informed that we could not hunt doves in NY exclaimed, "What is wrong with these people; are they un-American?" What has to happen for NY to get their season is simple: DEC has got to stand up and take a strong a forceful lead in pushing for the reclassification. They hide behind the shield (probably out of fear for their pensions that would be jeopardized should they run afoul of the politicians and antis) that the legislature and the governor must first pass a law that reclassifies the dove as a migratory game bird and then they could saddle their horses and get it done (maybe - the tentacles of NY politics are many and wide). NY sportsmen have got to get off of their butts and show DEC that they will throw their whole weight behind this one as they have in items involving major issues of the day - deer management, habitat and access, etc. But when it comes to doves, we still are the silent majority. Most just don't understand the concept of dove hunting since they've never had it. They remain "underwhelmed" by, and resistant to, the concept. My continuing believe is that if DEC takes a lead role in this, and our states' sportsmen become interested enough to become educated, this will happen. Remember, the 8 states that resist a dove season are mostly northeast states where doves are not overly present. Deer, bear, and moose are. NY is unique in that it has everything in abundance. I once told a friend from the Adirondacks who told me that they don't see doves up there, "Hey, you want to see a dove, come down here to Central or Western NY; I'll show you at least 500 any evening that you want in the fall when the harvesting is going on and the migration is starting. And if I want to see a moose, I'll come up your way. Don't see much of them down here". I can't believe that I just wrote all of this. I think maybe I'm still a bit unrecovered from my bout with the flu. Fred.

Right now, it's the four most relieving words my wife can whispers to me at night. "He (the baby) is finally asleep"

thousands of acres of State Land within a two hour drive of buffalo. Most offer good access and good hunting. You will find lots of info about most of them on the DEC web site. Most will be in Region 9, some in Region 8. good luck and welcome to Buffalo.

I well probably go on Sunday if at all.....

This guy is a knucklehead. I mean, is it only machetes? What about Kukri's Bowies, etc? As a side note: Clarification of the 4" blade rule in NYC. It's not illegal to own blades over 4". Otherwise, every restaurant, business, and home kitchen would be illegal. It's is illegal to go strolling down the city with a blade over 4" as a EDC. The law as it currently stands, it is legal to own a machete in your home, transport it to and from your car, etc. Just don't go strolling around Times Square with one.

Price said she visits her son’s grave two to three times each week, adding, “He’d still be alive today if it wasn’t for a machete.” Then in an alternate universe where machetes are banned: Price said she visits her son’s grave two to three times each week, adding, “He’d still be alive today if it wasn’t for a hammer.” Then in an alternate universe where hammers are banned: Price said she visits her son’s grave two to three times each week, adding, “He’d still be alive today if it wasn’t for a shovel.” Then in an alternate universe where shovels are banned: Price said she visits her son’s grave two to three times each week, adding, “He’d still be alive today if it wasn’t for a heavy or sharp object.” State Sen. Tony Avella plans to introduce a bill to ban the possession heavy or sharp objects in New York. "We are going to equip every New Yorker with flourescent orange oven safety mitts which have to be worn around the clock. Failure to wear the mitts will be considered a double-secret felony" said Senator Avella.

I'd even give them Albany for free as a parting gift.

I'd take my chances.

I posted this on another thread where I saw the article...fools

The current knife law in most of New York, with the exception of New York city and part of Monroe county doesn't have a restriction in the length of the knife blade. Their are restrictions, already in place for carrying fixed blades in any area, except while hunting, trapping, or fishing. Some other local multiplicities do have some other restrictions in place, so they have to be checked clearly. The way I read this article, they want to do far more than make machetes illegal, they want to limit the blade length to 4 inches state wide for use anytime. This is far more serious than just making machetes illegal. Come on you hunters, fishing, and trappers; their trying to take more of your rights away! If this subject was about firearms, their be holy hell to pay.

I keep a machete in the storage compartment of my ATV. Its been there for years. I use it to clear out spots and to get rid of the straggly stuff that hangs down into the trails. One time it did get out of the compartment and go off by itself to hack people, but that was only one time out of all these years.

Laws like this are so dumb. Is he going to ban meat cleavers too? How about long chef knives? It's almost as stupid as banning a gun because its stock/grip is at the 'assault weapon' angle.

One older sister, one younger brother. I was stuck in the middle but I always could and still can take both of them…LOL!!

It's also interesting he was not arrested when he was stopped. They let him go. Apparently the Sheriff was asked about it and decided he needed to be charged, so he sent his men back to the man's home the next day to arrest him. The law in NJ is designed to make felons out of any gun owners it can, so they can convict you and take away all of your 2nd Amendment rights. They won't put him in jail, but they will fine him, make him a felon, remove his guns and his rights, and put him on probation. IMHO, that is also exactly what the NY SAFE Act was written to do.

In case any of you are not aware, the New York State Big Buck Club published it's first ever magazine last year. From the website: "This collectible, full color, magazine is loaded with photos of this years whitetail and bear record book entries. We have also highlighted the top bucks from this year with the biggest gun typical and archery typical featured on the front and back cover of the magazine... complete with their score sheets on the inside covers." I would like to add that it was put together by nyantler. http://www.nysbigbuckclub.com/nys-big-buck-club-magazine.html

Here in my neck of the woods we have a very healthy deer population and healthy coyote population too. They co-exist just fine. I for one enjoy hearing them howl at night, seeing them in the woods and having them show up on trail cam photos. Coyotes are here to stay and I for one am thankful. They are beautiful intelligent animals and they sure add to the wild outdoor experience.

What they are actually saying is that hosting the classes costs them money and sacrifices profits. It certainly costs Gander Mountain. The most common KPI for a retail store is sales per sq/ft. Factor in the opportunity cost, the facitlities costs, maintenance, upkeep, etc. for a common area...and then try to tell the manager that his performance goals were not met when they might have easily been met if that 5-10% of non-revenue producing footage had been converted into what it should be...revenue generating space. Sure, you might get some goodwill, but not enough to offset, not even close. I think its nothing but a smart decision for them to nix that. Let them focus on doing what they do best (relatively speaking)....retail. The DEC should be responsible for this in my mind.