Airbow????

[G-Man]

2 hours ago, Storm914 said:

Please explain you shoot it like a gun dont you ?

So what of it has a string and limb attached. 

It' still shot like a gun 

Airbow(gun)You aim like a gun.. it shoots via a propellant . Bows both crossbow you aim like a gun and regular bows shoot via energy transfer from a string

[Hunter007]

24 minutes ago, Rebel Darling said:

You and I might not see eye-to-eye. But it's not for a lack of trying on my part. 

Yeah, I get that one holds the crossbow like a rifle, and pulls a trigger to release the arrow, like a rifle.  All you need to do to know that I understand that is to read my prior posts without cherry-picking points.  Furthermore, the difference between a crossbow and a vertical bow of any type is visually apparent and could be determined by anyone that has once played the game "One of These Things is Not Like the Other." 

But the crossbow uses a bow and string to propel the arrow.  Bow.  String.  Arrow.  The difficulty with crossbow inclusion in archery season is the definition of archery, which requires a bow and a string that propels an arrow.  That's archery.  A crossbow meets that criteria, and adds additional features to the archery implement, like a rifle stock.

An arrow gun doesn't match the criteria of archery because it fails to propel an arrow by means of a bow and string, and that's what you fail to admit despite repeated reasonable and factual explanations showing so.  You are failing to admit the nuance in the definitive argument because you are either blinded by your predetermined expectation, or simply being unreasonable for effect.

"It does not matter anymore how the arrow leaves the weapon" - You might be right for inclusion in archery season as determined by a political process, but that doesn't make the arrow gun an archery implement by the definition of archery.  Re-read that.  Now re-read it again.  Stop...  Let it sink in.  Now, re-read it again.

"Who will stop it now?" - It sure as shit ain't going to be you working to maintain an archery season in NYS.

 

 

I know what your saying but it is  all just word play  is it not .

And I dont think Crossmen is stupid they already have lobbyist working on the legalese of it  probably 

They already started by the name  airbow .

Watch and see what happens in time .

Once they went  over the line of it does not matter how you shoot it .

Why stop there ?

If they both have the basic same speeds  and  shoot the same way ?

Where is the logic in that except for looks of it  it does the same thing . Just by a different mechanism

 

 

 

 

 

 

[G-Man]

2 hours ago, Storm914 said:

And you consider a compound crossbow a primtive weapon?

Don't think they had those in the middle ages. 

There primtive compared to any modern  rifle .

Seasons should be Defined by ballistic properties  of a weapon 

Not mechanics of the weapon .

If you want to be consistent.

Crossbows are much more primitive than compound bows..they date back to 600 or so ad

[Rebel Darling]

43 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

I know what your saying but it is  all just word play  is it not .

And I dont think Crossmen is stupid they already have lobbyist working on the legalese of it  probably 

They already started by the name  airbow .

Watch and see what happens in time .

Once they went  over the line of it does not matter how you shoot it .

Why stop there ?

If they both have the basic same speeds  and  shoot the same way ?

Where is the logic in that except for looks of it  it does the same thing . Just by a different mechanism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thus Spaketh the Prophet!  Abandon your logic and reason!  Let there be arrowgun!

I'm sure the lobbyists are very pleased to have you on their team, and one less constituent they need to persuade.

 

[grampy]

4 minutes ago, Rebel Darling said:

 

Thus Spaketh the Prophet!  Abandon your logic and reason!  Let there be arrowgun!

I'm sure the lobbyists are very pleased to have you on their team, and one less constituent they need to persuade.

 

I have someone like him at work. They are never wrong Mike. And twist words around to make their misguided points. If you talk to a blank wall, you will get more understanding, than from someone wearing blinders. Just sayin....

[turkeyfeathers]

Full inclusion of Xbows has nuttin on this thread. Let’s all jump over to the beer thread for awhile shall we Cheers ! 

[Four Season Whitetail's]

1 hour ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

So what have I missed so far in this thread? I’m working a trail cam that shoots the deer as it takes the pic. Anybody got a problem with that?


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Thats the part i think some are not getting.............Those that make the rules-laws will not go by...Its how you shoot the thing....They are going to go with...........What kills the animals.   If animals dies with sharp arrow it will be archery=== Kills with bullet it will be gun season. Will not matter what propels what but what kills what.

[Robhuntandfish]

11 minutes ago, turkeyfeathers said:

Full inclusion of Xbows has nuttin on this thread. Let’s all jump over to the beer thread for awhile shall we Cheers ! 

lol - its taken how many years just to get a 2 week season for xbow.  The airbow........we will all be dead by then or argueing about whether lasers are guns or not.   I agree cheers !   

[Rebel Darling]

19 minutes ago, grampy said:

I have someone like him at work. They are never wrong Mike. And twist words around to make their misguided points. If you talk to a blank wall, you will get more understanding, than from someone wearing blinders. Just sayin....

 

Ha!

It's good to stretch the logic and debate muscles every now and again.  It's always good to have a well-defined and polished argument prepared for when it actually matters.

Thanks, grampy!

[Dinsdale]

If nothing else this thread was entertaining.

 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, WNYBuckHunter said:

piss off

Lol..... getting a bit emotional and out of control it seems. A dolt? .... Piss-off? I guess that's how these kinds of threads break down. Some people get intolerant of the opinions of others and it turns into name-calling and such. Take a pill or something.

[Doc]

5 hours ago, WNYBuckHunter said:

Dude, listen, the definition of archery has been posted, and its not debatable. Your attempts to do so are nothing but childish nonsense.

If you glue limbs and a string to it, its still not a bow, as the arrow is fired pneumatically. Thats just a stupid statement.

Until you show me where you worked at Crosman, and helped develop the product, your reasoning behind why they developed it are nothing more than a guess.

Bow season was not created for people to learn archery, you do that with targets before you go hunting. It was created to allow time for people to hunt with weapons that need different conditions to be successful than what firearms season provides. Whether you like it or not, a crossbow is a type of archery equipment. I didnt make it up, its a fact.

That's right..... WNYBuckHunter has spoken. You dare question his opinion? Your opinion is not his opinion and so yours is "childish nonsense". Don't believe me? ...... Just ask him.

[WNYBuckHunter]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

That's right..... WNYBuckHunter has spoken. You dare question his opinion? Your opinion is not his opinion and so yours is "childish nonsense". Don't believe me? ...... Just ask him.

Arguing the dictionary's definition of a word is about as pointless, childish and nonsensical at your lame attempts at personal shots

[Doc]

Look, save your energy with all this trying to define this and define that. We all know that personal opinions don't matter. You can cram anything you want into bow season if you can build a political consensus

2 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said:

Arguing the dictionary's definition of a word is about as pointless, childish and nonsensical at your lame attempts at personal shots

Don't you be lecturing me about "personal shots". Not after your performance on this thread.

[WNYBuckHunter]

12 minutes ago, Doc said:

Lol..... getting a bit emotional and out of control it seems. A dolt? .... Piss-off? I guess that's how these kinds of threads break down. Some people get intolerant of the opinions of others and it turns into name-calling and such. Take a pill or something.

blah blah blah blah

[WNYBuckHunter]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

Look, save your energy with all this trying to define this and define that. We all know that personal opinions don't matter. You can cram anything you want into bow season if you can build a political consensus

Don't you be lecturing me about "personal shots". Not after your performance on this thread.

Whatever spin doctor. Im not the one creating definitions of anything, thats for the dictionary people. I suggest you settle down before you have a heart attack

[Steuben Jerry]

5 hours ago, Rebel Darling said:

Have you not seen the cutting edge suggestions of:

- TankBow

- Land MineBow (aka HarmlessBow)

- ClaymoreBow

- BazookaBow! (top secret!!!)

Can I bring TeBow along with me in October or do I have to wait til November? He's got limbs...

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said:

Whatever spin doctor. Im not the one creating definitions of anything, thats for the dictionary people. I suggest you settle down before you have a heart attack

From what I am reading here, I suggest that maybe it is you that's losing your cool and need to settle down. I think you are getting a bit too emotional over this thing. Remember, it's only a forum.

[Hunter007]

2 hours ago, Real World Hunter said:

Thats the part i think some are not getting.............Those that make the rules-laws will not go by...Its how you shoot the thing....They are going to go with...........What kills the animals.   If animals dies with sharp arrow it will be archery=== Kills with bullet it will be gun season. Will not matter what propels what but what kills what.

Yes exactly 

[Hunter007]

20 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said:

Can I bring TeBow along with me in October or do I have to wait til November? He's got limbs...

Go ask the Olympic archery committee if they think crossbows are the same as traditional archery and watch as they laugh in your face

[Steuben Jerry]

2 hours ago, Storm914 said:

Go ask the Olympic archery committee if they think crossbows are the same as traditional archery and watch as they laugh in your face

Huh? I don't have a dog in this fight. Just trying to lighten it up.

Edited February 2, 2018 by Steuben Jerry

[Hunter007]

Look if there going to let in crossbows  just be consistent about it and let in any new innovation that shoots a arrow at speeds comprable to crossbows like this airbow 

I don't see  why anyone who shoots a crossbow would object to that.  Yea It shoots with out string and limb .

But it still shoots a arrow 

So does that effect how it kills a deer NO !! 

So why object to it . Just because of a definiton ? Then change the definition so simple . They already started with crossbows many would argue. 

 

Edited February 3, 2018 by Storm914

[Steuben Jerry]

I have to say, I don't have an opinion yet either way as the airbow thing is mostly new to me. I've seen it on the internet before, but didn't really pay much attention at the time. 

But I've been studying it since this thread started. And I do believe I want one to mess around with. And it would fit in my gun safe!

So I like this thread. Dilly dilly!

[Rebel Darling]

 

[goosifer]

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