Grizz1219 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, moog5050 said: Beauty! Thanks.. Good bull, was last afternoon of my hunt, you can see the sun going down... great memory... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 500 yds has some real drop and wind influence with any caliber. Ex. 6.5 creedmoor (great ballistics) still has a 33" drop and 17" drift from 200-500yds with a 10mph crosswind.Not if your sighted in dead on 400yards. I don’t know what Jerkman was sighted in at so he would have to confirm.When I go west, I’m dead on at 300yds. So it’s basically 3” high at 100yds and 4” high at 200yds (still rising), and only about 8” low at 400yds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, Biz-R-OWorld said: Not if your sighted in dead on 400yards. I don’t know what Jerkman was sighted in at so he would have to confirm. When I go west, I’m dead on at 300yds. So it’s basically 3” high at 100yds and 4” high at 200yds (still rising), and only about 8” low at 400yds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I get it Biz, but it still leaves a lot to take into consideration. You sight in that far, and you need to adjust for shorter shots and you still have very significant wind drift with mild wind. My point is that it takes some real experience to shoot 500 plus. Its not just aim and shoot. Then again, at least around here, there really is no need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Nicky Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Longest about 400 yards on an antelope. Closest- my memory is not that good. Lots of small game at a few yards, some deer in archery couldn't have been more than 5 yards, numerous hogs with a handgun or slug gun from a few paces that had been mixing it up with dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said: Not if your sighted in dead on 400yards. I don’t know what Jerkman was sighted in at so he would have to confirm. When I go west, I’m dead on at 300yds. So it’s basically 3” high at 100yds and 4” high at 200yds (still rising), and only about 8” low at 400yds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Biz what caliber did you use Where are you guys practicing 300plus yard shots . Edited June 3, 2019 by sbuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I get it Biz, but it still leaves a lot to take into consideration. You sight in that far, and you need to adjust for shorter shots and you still have very significant wind drift with mild wind. My point is that it takes some real experience to shoot 500 plus. Its not just aim and shoot. Then again, at least around here, there really is no need.Yea, I agree it’s not needed for this area. Wind is always a factor at least in Wyoming. I don’t think I’ve ever seen wind under 20mph there. I don’t do a ton of a shooting. I usually hit range before a trip out west and make sure I’m right at 100yd and 200yd. If it’s 300yd I hold dead on. Anything longer you just trust the ballistics card and is just a feel thing (top of back, a little daylight between, etc.). I only took 1 shot at that distance so I can’t vouch for much more other than trusting the ballistics. I shot 1 antelope at under 100yds so I just aimed a tad low and shot was perfect. Everything else has been 100-280yds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Biz what caliber did you use Where are you guys practicing 300plus yard shots .7MMWBY Mag. See above post. I just make sure I’m right at 100 and 200 and trust ballistics that I’m dead on at 300. I shoot with a Caldwell lead sled so I can’t blame the gun if i miss. I haven’t shot a rifle since my last trip out west in 2014. I’ve never been a range guy unless I’m going on a trip. I find shooting at targets to be very boring (bow or gun).Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 On deer: Compound bow: farthest - 30 yards, shortest - 10 yards Crossbow: farthest -59 yards, shortest - 13 yards ML: farthest - 175 yards (I made that shot but was unable to recover the deer due to a poor tracking job and bad assumption of a "miss"), shortest - 15 yards Smooth-bore Shotgun / foster slug: farthest - 120 yards (shot hit a little low and a second "finisher" was required, shortest - 3 yards Rifled Shotgun / sabot slug: farthest - 163 yards, shortest - 25 yards Rifle: farthest - 300 yards, shortest - 50 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I must be losing it I still dont see 7mmwby mag in above post Biz, any how . It must not be for me, I just don't think I could take a shot at that distance without practicing sufficiently several times over and over. Not to mention what may be behind the target . I'm going to check some BC when I get home for curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Bow sample size is small; 15-25 yds so far. I'm very conservative at shot selection with a bow. Long gun....maybe 5 yds with the muzzleloader; shot a springbok at 423 (almost a yard of hold into the wind in very open terrain and plenty of time to figure it out) . Couple chucks closer to 500. That was a 300RUM with 180 gr load. Was consistently practicing in some hayfields owned by farmer I was buying from and where I took the chucks. I'd say at most rifle hunting the distances are frequent at 60-150 yds. Some a lot closer, and a few pokes at 300+ here and there. Depends on terrain, cover, species, style of hunt, weather. Eastern hunters think anything past a 100 yds is a hail mary; and judging by what I've seen at sight in days here and there, it is. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnplav Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Bow 2 (straight down) and 30 yards Crossbow 10 and 25 yards Rifle (.270) 25 and 175 yards Shotgun: TBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said: Not if your sighted in dead on 400yards. I don’t know what Jerkman was sighted in at so he would have to confirm. When I go west, I’m dead on at 300yds. So it’s basically 3” high at 100yds and 4” high at 200yds (still rising), and only about 8” low at 400yds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk When I hunted the wide open spaces out west and up north ( Alaska, northern Canadian tundra) I used mostly my .280 Rem with 140 grain spitzers at about 3000 FPS MV..... At 100 yards I was + 4".. at 200 yards I was + 4".. at 300 yards I was - 4"....at 400 yards I was minus 12"....I had these values taped on my rifle stock for years.. These values were achieved by actual shooting groups at these distances...Being a country boy, I had access to a number of fields where I could shoot at these distances.. Nearly all of my long range shots were made lying flat on my belly using a Harris bipod.. The sole exception was shooting 300 yards across a New Brunswick clearcut off hand at a bull moose when I had no opportunity for a rest...It took me 3 shots and still is the luckiest shot I ever made...I never would have done it, but my 300 pound friend/guide threatened to sexually violate me if I didn't shoot... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 longest /shortest 100/ 20 yards with gun ,with Bow 20/7 yards . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 When I hunted the wide open spaces out west and up north ( Alaska, northern Canadian tundra) I used mostly my .280 Rem with 140 grain spitzers at about 3000 FPS MV..... At 100 yards I was + 4".. at 200 yards I was + 4".. at 300 yards I was - 4"....at 400 yards I was minus 12"....I had these values taped on my rifle stock for years.. These values were achieved by actual shooting groups at these distances...Being a country boy, I had access to a number of fields where I could shoot at these distances.. Nearly all of my long range shots were made lying flat on my belly using a Harris bipod.. The sole exception was shooting 300 yards across a New Brunswick clearcut off hand at a bull moose when I had no opportunity for a rest...It took me 3 shots and still is the luckiest shot I ever made...I never would have done it, but my 300 pound friend/guide threatened to sexually violate me if I didn't shoot...3000fps? That’s slower than molasses. When I look thru the scope I can’t tell the difference between 250yd and 325yd unless I ranged it. You aim and pull the trigger same as a 20yd shot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I must be losing it I still dont see 7mmwby mag in above post Biz, any how . It must not be for me, I just don't think I could take a shot at that distance without practicing sufficiently several times over and over. Not to mention what may be behind the target . I'm going to check some BC when I get home for curiosity. I meant see above post about practicing. It’s simple math. Guns are capable of way more than a shooter. 4” between 0-300yds means you can aim dead on any distance is between and it’s a dead animal unless you pull the shot. Guys are overthinking it. Just aim on your and pull the trigger. 115yd or 300yd, doesn’t matter Here’s an easy to read chart. With 300yd as zero (common practice) https://www.weatherby.com/media/weatherby/ballistics.pdf Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Bullets are traveling around 1,000 YARDS per second. We are only talking about 300 yard shots here. I’m not talking about sniper shots from a mile away Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Not if your sighted in dead on 400yards. I don’t know what Jerkman was sighted in at so he would have to confirm.When I go west, I’m dead on at 300yds. So it’s basically 3” high at 100yds and 4” high at 200yds (still rising), and only about 8” low at 400yds. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI was sighted in at a 200 yard zero. Ideally with my .300wby a 300 yard zero would have been better but I rock a ballistic turret so I have plenty of room. However I ran out of turret around 470 or so then it came down to knowing my gun and my load. The rest was easySent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Like moog said it's the wind drift at long range that stops me from taking them. Just an example from a 7mm rem mag. 7 mm Remington Magnum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Woodchuck with a rifle = 430 yards, Woodchuck with a pistol = 236 yards. Closest deer was a contact wound in a swamp. He never saw me and the processor had to dig the wad out of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpStateRedNeck Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 10:28 PM, kpkot said: Deer: Closest about 8ft Remington 1100. Farthest 174 yds Remington 700 308. Bow Would be 4 yards and 32 yards. That is scarily close to what I would answer, same gun, maybe a touch closer on the yardage, but freehand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Like moog said it's the wind drift at long range that stops me from taking them. Just an example from a 7mm rem mag. 7 mm Remington Magnum Not always perfect left to right though, so what’s 4-8” inches anyway? A tad forward or back that’s allSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosifer Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said: Not always perfect left to right though, so what’s 4-8” inches anyway? A tad forward or back that’s all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Biz, that's the same thing I tell my wife. Glad someone understands. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, sbuff said: Like moog said it's the wind drift at long range that stops me from taking them. Just an example from a 7mm rem mag. 7 mm Remington Magnum its not even just wind drift that keeps me from shooting that far- too many variables. A gun on a bench can be shot for hundreds of yards with the right math. But from a treestand or leaning against a tree isnt the same. one or two inches off of aim at 100 yards isnt a big deal. But at 300+ its off by many inches to feet. Am sure there are capable guys on here to do it, and i am a decent shot with a rifle but dont like hunting with such long shots. Its like shooting the bow - you might be hitting bulls at 20 then backup to 40 and find your 3 inches left. The farther you go out the more your aim and trigger squeeze have to be perfect. Am sure lots of guys can do it and under the right circumstances be great at it. If you pull the trigger even a little at 300+ the shot is going to be off by a lot. But i havent practiced at those yardages so i stay away from them. Edited June 5, 2019 by Robhuntandfish 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The above post pretty much sums it up for me. Unless you practice over and over . 8inch off is or could be a wounded or lost animal . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, sbuff said: The above post pretty much sums it up for me. Unless you practice over and over . 8inch off is or could be a wounded or lost animal . If I hunted in areas where the norm was shooting 300-500yds, I would seriously work on it to ensure I am capable. I would not shoot hat far based on the way I practice now. But its not needed - at least for me - to kill deer. Same with a bow. I have yet to pass on a big buck because he was outside of 30yds or so. To each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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