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911 business was closed for a day everywhere but NYC.  And once we found out what it was things started up quickly.  This is forecasted to be around thru July in August.   And is global.  
Again I am far from panic, but I see this as the biggest economic challenge to our way of life I've seen in my lifetime. 
These things will linger if the govt has to bail out so much of it.  It's gonna be a long haul. Tell the small businesses that just got told they cannot serve the public til further notice that it's a bump in the road..... You need to see it thru other's eyes.  

None of the top law firms or banks are closed right now. None will be closed. It’s encouraged that you work from Home, but you are allowed to go in if need be.


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3 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

911 business was closed for a day everywhere but NYC.  And once we found out what it was things started up quickly.  This is forecasted to be around thru July in August.   And is global.  

Again I am far from panic, but I see this as the biggest economic challenge to our way of life I've seen in my lifetime. 

These things will linger if the govt has to bail out so much of it.  It's gonna be a long haul. Tell the small businesses that just got told they cannot serve the public til further notice that it's a bump in the road..... You need to see it thru other's eyes.  

I agree with the economic impacts this will and has had. I just hope cooler heads prevail and the majority of the population realizes the reaction is worse than the virus. I’m extremely worried my 93 year old grandmother may get  sick and not be around anymore but I’m more concerned my 5 and 3 year old may not get to experience to life we have all enjoyed because of panic and the ensuing results that will happen. We all need to hold  out hope and band together to make sure each day gets better and not worse.

 

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Google "Democrat" right now. It's a picture of a RAT lol


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He wasn't lying! Screenshot_20200316-191729_Chrome.jpg

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17 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:


None of the top law firms or banks are closed right now. None will be closed. It’s encouraged that you work from Home, but you are allowed to go in if need be.


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It will still have a huge impact.  Less business activities = less legal work = less Billings coupled with less Billings due to remote work, close of courts and suspension of cases and less transactional work.  Law Firms will suffer.  

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10 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

Google "Democrat" right now. It's a picture of a RAT lol


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I ain’t googling or clicking any links you post. I had nightmares of the last link 

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It will still have a huge impact.  Less business activities = less legal work = less Billings coupled with less Billings due to remote work, close of courts and suspension of cases and less transactional work.  Law Firms will suffer.  

Oh for sure. I just meant they won’t close. Most law firm billing groups have never worked from home before and are non exempt employees, so this is a nightmare. It’s all Hands on deck, other groups will have to do billing if need be. Without bills, no cash


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I ain’t googling or clicking any links you post. I had nightmares of the last link 


I’m not lying. Jerkman posted the screenshot. Pretty funny


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Just now, Biz-R-OWorld said:


Oh for sure. I just meant they won’t close. Most law firm billing groups have never worked from home before and are non exempt employees, so this is a nightmare. It’s all Hands on deck, other groups will have to do billing if need be. Without bills, no cash


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Erie county courts closed.  No filings accepted. The rest of NY is also suspending all non-essential Court activities.  I  betting we see a 20-30% drop this year. 

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Erie county courts closed.  No filings accepted. The rest of NY is also suspending all non-essential Court activities.  I  betting we see a 20-30% drop this year. 
But that should just result in a backlog when things kick back up again. Criminals still going to commit crime. Business still will have to ramp up business once things calm down

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Just now, The Jerkman said:

But that should just result in a backlog when things kick back up again. Criminals still going to commit crime. Business still will have to ramp up business once things calm down

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There will be a rebound but it’s hard to say how long.  I expect some businesses on a close budget may not make it which reduces available business.   As I said, we will all get through it, but I am now bracing for a lousy 2020 fiscal year.  

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16 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

It will still have a huge impact.  Less business activities = less legal work = less Billings coupled with less Billings due to remote work, close of courts and suspension of cases and less transactional work.  Law Firms will suffer.  

Hmmmm...sounds like an opportunity.

How does one get the virus to target more lawyers?:cry:

 


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4 minutes ago, Dinsdale said:

Hmmmm...sounds like an opportunity.

How does one get the virus to target more lawyers?:cry:

 

Now Dinsdale, I still love you.  But no more exotic hunts this year!

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58 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

There will be a rebound but it’s hard to say how long.  I expect some businesses on a close budget may not make it which reduces available business.   As I said, we will all get through it, but I am now bracing for a lousy 2020 fiscal year.  

Sylvan beach, within sight of my house, has multiple businesses that are just opening for the year after being closed for the winter. Multiple restaurants, bars, an amusement park. Now all are mandated closed until further notice.  And president said today this could go til August.  With the possibility of no income for months and tighter purse stings once it is lifted, which of those businesses has a chance to survive?  2020 will just reach so many pockets. It's a big snowball. 

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Sorry I couldn’t find the “ price gouging “ thread  aka 17,000 hand sanitizers .

But this largely reflects my feelings on that .  Although I feel CMAC charging 24 times what I can buy a Genny beer for at the store , a bit much . So I don’t , free market  . $12 a beer there , 30 pack for $15 at the store.  But I digress.....

https://www.aier.org/article/three-undeniable-problems-with-anti-gouging-laws/

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My bro in law is in quarantine at his home. He works for large bank. He will have to trade from home for 14 days. He has no symptoms so no test. But somehow on his floor had it


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11 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

My bro in law is in quarantine at his home. He works for large bank. He will have to trade from home for 14 days. He has no symptoms so no test. But somehow on his floor had it


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No symptoms yet.............naaa, no way.

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The Flu killed somewhere around 60k in the US alone in 2018. We average about 20-30 K deaths a year from Flu. 

China population 1.3 billion plus with 80k reported cases of Coronavirus and under 4k deaths. The virus has ebbed in China with less than 20 new cases being reported a day now.

Now I'm no medical professional but what about these numbers doesn't make sense? 

In simple terms can someone explain to me why haven't we locked down entire countries and caused panic and chaos over the Flu every single season, especially the really bad Flu seasons like the one we had in 2018.

I have to be missing something here?

 

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I will leave you to your no worries. It's good to be you and retired I guess.  

Oh for sure. I just meant they won’t close. Most law firm billing groups have never worked from home before and are non exempt employees, so this is a nightmare. It’s all Hands on deck, other groups will have to do billing if need be. Without bills, no cash


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19 minutes ago, Gobbler Chaser said:

The Flu killed somewhere around 60k in the US alone in 2018. We average about 20-30 K deaths a year from Flu. 

China population 1.3 billion plus with 80k reported cases of Coronavirus and under 4k deaths. The virus has ebbed in China with less than 20 new cases being reported a day now.

Now I'm no medical professional but what about these numbers doesn't make sense? 

In simple terms can someone explain to me why haven't we locked down entire countries and caused panic and chaos over the Flu every single season, especially the really bad Flu seasons like the one we had in 2018.

I have to be missing something here?

 

It's the high ratio of infected and death amongst the elderly.  On can argue that the mortality rate of younger adults are comparable but the mortality rate of seniors sky rocket with COVID-19.  In my case, I'm not actually worried about my little ones as I am worried about my little ones picking it up and then bringing it back to my parents who watch over them.


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14 minutes ago, Gobbler Chaser said:

In simple terms can someone explain to me why haven't we locked down entire countries and caused panic and chaos over the Flu every single season, especially the really bad Flu seasons like the one we had in 2018.

I have to be missing something here?

C19 is more infectious than the flu - an infected person will spread it wider snd faster. It’s more deadly than the flu. And it kills in a different way, essentially flooding the lungs with fluid. Not only is there’s no pharmaceutical treatment, there’s a lack of respirators. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/14/health/coronavirus-covid-19-flu-comparison-frieden-analysis/index.html

 

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7 hours ago, Elmo said:

It's the high ratio of infected and death amongst the elderly.  On can argue that the mortality rate of younger adults are comparable but the mortality rate of seniors sky rocket with COVID-19.  In my case, I'm not actually worried about my little ones as I am worried about my little ones picking it up and then bringing it back to my parents who watch over them.

The higher elderly mortality stands true for the Flu with much higher numbers.

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7 hours ago, left field said:

C19 is more infectious than the flu - an infected person will spread it wider snd faster. It’s more deadly than the flu. And it kills in a different way, essentially flooding the lungs with fluid. Not only is there’s no pharmaceutical treatment, there’s a lack of respirators. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/14/health/coronavirus-covid-19-flu-comparison-frieden-analysis/index.html

 

It appears to have run its course in China with less than 4 K deaths. China a highly populated country with dense population clusters. Most people who die from Flu die from respiratory failure, Pneumonia or flooding the lungs with fluid.

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I would question Chinese numbers. And it's not the west.

Per the article:

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Many deaths from flu are caused by secondary bacterial pneumonia and heart attacks that develop after the flu has weakened someone's resistance. With Covid-19, most deaths are caused by acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), which causes already-damaged lungs to fill with fluid, and makes breathing difficult. Unlike pneumonia, there is no pharmaceutical treatment for ARDS. That is why a potential shortage of ventilators is so dangerous: They are the last-ditch supportive treatment for Covid-19 while the body heals itself.

 

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