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Isn't the season long enough?   Hell, it starts Oct 1 and ends just days before Christmas with all the different seasons, why do we need another week?  If they cancelled the muzzleloading season right after the gun season maybe this would be more appealing, but it would be too much otherwise in my view.  I'm sure the state don't give a crap and would prefer all the deer killed, but I sure don't from a future hunting perspective.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, steve863 said:

Isn't the season long enough?   Hell, it starts Oct 1 and ends just days before Christmas with all the different seasons, why do we need another week?  If they cancelled the muzzleloading season right after the gun season maybe this would be more appealing, but it would be too much otherwise in my view.  I'm sure the state don't give a crap and would prefer all the deer killed, but I sure don't from a future hunting perspective.

 

I'd bet you'd see it used int he high density areas where they never hit their harvest goals. 

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1 minute ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

I'd bet you'd see it used int he high density areas where they never hit their harvest goals. 

I can understand it being implemented only in specific areas, but I wouldn't favor them implementing it across the board in the entire southern zone.  Muzzleloaders are almost as effective as the centerfire rifles, and I'd bet most won't be choosing the bow during this season so this may be a bit too much on the deer herd.

 

 

 

 

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Late season bed to food patterns...Mmmmmmmmmm.

Bow only probably a smarter but less risky and less successful endeavor (as a tool to control numbers). I can see alot (comparative of the harvest during that time) of dropped bucks getting shot with the MZ. In bow, at least it's more likely you can ID a drop buck.

Highly doubt if passed I'd shoot a doe unless it was within bow range and physical ID is almost a guarantee. But this is a great move for people looking to take advantage of those late season patterns to get onto a buck. I've began to value late season more each year and this would only increase it's value to help us be successful. 

 

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6 minutes ago, phade said:

Late season bed to food patterns...Mmmmmmmmmm.

Bow only probably a smarter but less risky and less successful endeavor (as a tool to control numbers). I can see alot (comparative of the harvest during that time) of dropped bucks getting shot with the MZ. In bow, at least it's more likely you can ID a drop buck.

Highly doubt if passed I'd shoot a doe unless it was within bow range and physical ID is almost a guarantee. But this is a great move for people looking to take advantage of those late season patterns to get onto a buck. I've began to value late season more each year and this would only increase it's value to help us be successful. 

 

I'm concerned about the bucks that shed as well. 

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I have been fortunate to be part of a lease that is in a doe management focus zone for 10 years. We benefit from all the extra season and tags we can get our hands on. We hunt til end of January and can legally kill 2 antlerless deer a day for the entire season. We don't hunt much in bow or early gun unless its a kill day. Some nice bucks on the lease. Our heard potentially suffers if we don't kill 30 to 50 does a year;

The buck to doe ratio is so skewed you never see a buck.

We are at risk for disease.

Population can become stunted and inbred.

 

That being said.... you can have a billion tags for low deer density areas but that may not mean more deer are being killed. 

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Just now, Robhuntandfish said:

Why wouldn't they just extend the late season from the last date. Usually it closes around Dec 12-16?  So they would close it for a week and reopen for the week of Xmas?  Am I missing something here?   If they want to lenghten it just leave it open til Dec 31. 

honestly that break would give them a little more time to get to more normal patterns (on food) . Increase chances to see them during shooting hours. I see much better movement in that late week just with the normal downturn in pressure during the late gun

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Just now, Culvercreek hunt club said:

honestly that break would give them a little more time to get to more normal patterns (on food) . Increase chances to see them during shooting hours. I see much better movement in that late week just with the normal downturn in pressure during the late gun

It might give deer at your area a break but not the same for everyone and a lot of people have time off around the holidays that could hunt. And have family out and could do a Xmas weekend family hunt, which would be amazing. 

This year late muzzle closes the 22nd.  So why close it for 4 days and then reopen. I'm good with more hunting but why a 4 day close?  

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2 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

It might give deer at your area a break but not the same for everyone and a lot of people have time off around the holidays that could hunt. And have family out and could do a Xmas weekend family hunt, which would be amazing. 

This year late muzzle closes the 22nd.  So why close it for 4 days and then reopen. I'm good with more hunting but why a 4 day close?  

the way I was understanding it was there wouldn't be that normal late week. The week would get "shifted" into the new location. 

 

Edit" And I don't care where you are int he state but the last week of firearms is A LOT less pressure than the first weeks. 

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9 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

Why wouldn't they just extend the late season from the last date. Usually it closes around Dec 12-16?  So they would close it for a week and reopen for the week of Xmas?  Am I missing something here?   If they want to lenghten it just leave it open til Dec 31. 

The current bow muzzleloader would be shifted to holiday week. So end if gun 2 weeks off then 9 day muzzleloader/ bow

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Just now, G-Man said:

The current bow muzzleloader would be shifted to holiday week. So end if gun 2 weeks off then 9 day muzzleloader/ bow

 

3 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

the way I was understanding it was there wouldn't be that normal late week. The week would get "shifted" into the new location. 

 

Edit" And I don't care where you are int he state but the last week of firearms is A LOT less pressure than the first weeks. 

It says additional days to the regular seasons. 7 "additional days"

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5 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

the way I was understanding it was there wouldn't be that normal late week. The week would get "shifted" into the new location. 

 

Edit" And I don't care where you are int he state but the last week of firearms is A LOT less pressure than the first weeks. 

And agree during firearms but by the time muzzle comes around there is no one out around our place.  I see no reason to take a 4 day break other than for Eco s to have the time off. Esp when people are able to get the time off to hunt and can. Because other people want less pressured deer.  Not everyone sees the same pressure.  Esp late season.  

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2 minutes ago, G-Man said:

The current bow muzzleloader would be shifted to holiday week. So end if gun 2 weeks off then 9 day muzzleloader/ bow

Where are you reading that the current bow/muzzleloader season would be shifted??  The DEC release is calling this "additional" hunting opportunities.  

 

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