luberhill Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 So use range finder ,, 20 yards from tree aim as on the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 picture where you want the arrow/bolt to exit and then compute what actual aiming spot towards you is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 The distance is the horizontal distance , not the diagonal distance . That's where a range finder with an Angle Compensator comes in handy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 32 years , bow hunting , I’ve never seen a range finder ,let alone used one, but to each his own . As TF said aim at the off side , “ that is “ where you want the arrow to come out . It helps to shoot in practice from height ,either your roof ,or a stand ,( practice as you hunt ! ) at a thin target so you can see how the arrow is positioned at the exit side . I use a 3 inch thick foam target , I tape a piece of paper in the shape of the vitals on the close side , you quickly learn the proper shot placement , for different distances and angles , to hit both lungs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) One thing to remember is to bend at the waist. Don't lower your arm to get the angle needed. Edited November 8, 2020 by mowin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left field Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, mowin said: One thing to remember is to bend at the waist. Don't lower your arm to get the angle needed. What is the reasoning behind that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 My box blind is only 8 ft off the ground. The hay field next to me they sprayed weed killer on and the deer always feed there in the afternoon .,, now it’s all dead .. so I mowed my field that is making tall weeds and golden thinking it may draw them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, left field said: What is the reasoning behind that? Changes your draw length. Really more critical with a traditional bow that has no back wall. Not sure it makes much of a difference with a compound but it is good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, left field said: What is the reasoning behind that? It's a bowhunting shot form issue. When you drop your bow arm you always shoot high. Bend and pivot your whole upper body at the waist to maintain shooting form. I absolutely suck at this and my bow shots are always flippin high. I practice and concentrate but it goes to crap when a deer shows up. Aim low with a bow! (Sorry, compound bow related not crossbow) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 You're 8 feet of the ground ,just aim for the triangle and don't even think about the exit hole ,i never understood the backwards thinking of thinking of the exit hole , you know where the stuff is that makes the deer go night night ,aim for that , it's common sense to adjust where to hit depending on the angle the deer is standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, left field said: What is the reasoning behind that? It changes the angle of your anchor point. If you drop your arm, your peep is going to be farther away from your eye, forcing you to drop your chin changing everything. Next time practicing from a elevated stand. Draw your bow like your in the ground. Drop your arm and shoot. Then try locking in position and only bending at the waist to get on target. You'll be much closer to the bullseye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Don't over think it. Your not shooting in a competition with Levi. Range some areas your hunting around and send it within the ranges you feel comfortable with. Be more sure of taking a slow shot and staying on aim. If the distance is 24 and you shoot for 22 the deer is dead . The broadhead will do it's job. Misses aren't because your off angle by a couple of yards. It's because you jerked the trigger, dropped your bow arm, were peeking before you shoot etc. Unless your 30 foot in a tree you will be fine. If your trying to shoot out 50 yards downhill then it might be an issue. Send it without panic and overthinking, you got it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left field Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Robhuntandfish said: Don't over think it. Your not shooting in a competition with Levi. Range some areas your hunting around and send it within the ranges you feel comfortable with. Be more sure of taking a slow shot and staying on aim. If the distance is 24 and you shoot for 22 the deer is dead . The broadhead will do it's job. Misses aren't because your off angle by a couple of yards. It's because you jerked the trigger, dropped your bow arm, were peeking before you shoot etc. Unless your 30 foot in a tree you will be fine. If your trying to shoot out 50 yards downhill then it might be an issue. Send it without panic and overthinking, you got it Rob nailed it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 He’s talking about with a crossbow, bend at the waist is moot . My testing , shooting from height , dropping my bow arm or bending at waist showed no difference in poi . Ya I know everyone says to bend at waist and by all means do , just for me doing both showed little to no difference. Try it yourself . How many have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nomad said: He’s talking about with a crossbow, bend at the waist is moot . My testing , shooting from height , dropping my bow arm or bending at waist showed no difference in poi . Ya I know everyone says to bend at waist and by all means do , just for me doing both showed little to no difference. Try it yourself . How many have ? Well, I totally missed the crossbow part. Hence my explanation with the peep and anchor point. That said, put the cross hairs on em and send it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 This was posted on a crossbow topic, so form, bending at the waist, etc is N/A with a Xbow. FYI - Biggest difference in horizontal and straight line distances while up in a typical ~15" treestand are shots way under 10yrds. Most other differences are ~3yrds. Find a trig calculator if you don't trust me! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, nyslowhand said: This was posted on a crossbow topic, so form, bending at the waist, etc is N/A with a Xbow. FYI - Biggest difference in horizontal and straight line distances while up in a typical ~15" treestand are shots way under 10yrds. Most other differences are ~3yrds. Find a trig calculator if you don't trust me! Just ran a Pythagorean’ theorems, 20 feet up deer at 60 feet ( 20 yards ) true distance to target is 63 feet . A non issue , since your bow shoots the same at 60 and 63 feet . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Right, the further the shot is from the steep angled downward shot, the less the difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jperch Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Agree with Nomad at 20 yards. And he said his box blind is only 8 feet up, even less difference. On the other hand, one should practice on point blank shots from height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 If I get a deer at "point blank" range while only up 8', may be tempted to jump on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, nyslowhand said: If I get a deer at "point blank" range while only up 8', may be tempted to jump on it... Please post a video if you do. Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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