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Please do not take the title out of context. There is a point to be made but it's not my goal. I wanted to share my story with you all as I'm sure some will enjoy it. It's just kind of funny this happened really concerning all the talk lately of legal shooting hours. In Mississippi legal shooting hours are 1/2 hour before and 1/2 hour after. There is also a 10" inside spread or 13" main beam. The rut is in full swing down here so I snuck out of work Friday afternoon for a sit in a ground blind (it was drizzling) on some public land near me. I harvested a doe near the spot I chose just a few weekends prior. I have been seeing great sign in this area, fresh rubs and scrapes and passed a new one on the way in. I get in and set up by 2:30. It was one of those days where you're feeling good to be in the woods but I didn't see a thing all sit. I'm sitting up on a nob overlooking a deep shallow creek which provided a small window between 2 thick bedding areas where I had found some great sign. It's a hard to reach area as it's a pretty steep climb down and up. Sunset is ~4:50 and the light is getting thin around 5:05. I'm hunting with my muzzleloader instead of my shotgun as I do not yet have a rifle. I look through my nikon 3x9 and still have good light. I'm shooting at a downward angle and decide to give it 5 more minutes. Truthfully any later, while legal would have been iffy. Had I been in a field I'm sure it would have been fine. At 5:10 a see a deer come running down the hill and paused broadside at about 50 yards behind a tree. I bump the power to 4 and cock the hammer on my CVA Optima. I am not going to shoot a doe. It's dark, wet and a hell of a drag. He steps out. He's a shooter. Bang. The buck runs 20 yards down into the steep shallow creek (oh crap), up the other side (thank God) and then flops once and dies. I sit another 5 minutes and go and check him out and was very happy with my decision. Not a perfect shot and didn't get much meat out of both shoulders but double lung just the same. The drag out with my cart may have been one of the hardest things I've ever done. Into the creek and up the otherside pushing him up with my shoulders. Inching up the ravine grabbing onto trees to prevent myself from slipping and from him sliding back down. 2 hours later he was out. I was sore but thankful. Cut him up Saturday and did the grind Sunday. He's going to be a European. 15" inside spread and a wopping 110lbs dressed haha. I'm calling him a 9 as the broken brow tine passes the keychain test for me.

Very exciting! They are fast little buggers

That should cover everyone.... I will be very busy so wanted to tell eveyone at NYhunting to have a Happy healthy and love filled holiday season with family and friends. Relax and enjoy visions of turkey & deer dancing through your head in anticipation of the 2015/16 seasons to come.....Best Wishes ........Chris

Longer season..?? Are you KIDDING me ?? This last one damn near killed me... All that time driving around at night with a spotlight holding an AR-15 out the window.... I'm glad it's over so I can get some SLEEP !!

He forgot "baiting" wasn't legal in NY..lol

take a deep breath and relax........

Theatre tickets for a play is a good idea

My favorite recipe is to stuff a tenderloin with crumbly blue cheese, chopped red onion, and spinach leaves. Coat with Buck's seasoning and bake.

Earlier today I was at the Galleria Mall in the continuing search for Christmas gifts for my wife (ALMOST fruitless) and in a strange twist I ended up in Dick's. Then I ended up in the hunting/guns area.......(I swear it's like something/ somebody took over my body, I couldn't control it). There, lo and behold are .22 shells! Wow, the Holy Grail!! 1400ct Remington .22's bucket for $69.99 I made a mental note for you guys & gals here and then turned and left. I was NOT there for .22 shells, not at any price. I was there to shop for my sweetie........................... So there you have it, hit Dick's up for your bucket of bullets. You're welcome.

Some times we take ourselves a bit too seriously. It's a shame because life is way too short to cheat ourselves out of our own portion of it. In order to get myself re-centered, I often ask myself, just what will people think of my accomplishments 100 years from now. The answer always comes back that unless my name is printed on money, they likely won't even know who the hell I was. So I might as well make sure there is always time for me and my family because there's no 2nd go around on this thing called life. Keep the priorities all in the proper order.

HEY !!!... Who says that some of us fat old rednecks aren't in shape ? ROUND is a SHAPE !! Damn sissified city boys !!

I'm sure it's all delicious but that first picture looks like a pile of dead bats! lol

Dairy cow or beef? Nice big ol' plump Angus strolls by....well I might have to think about it. lol

well with fishing season winding down we have been able to run back and forth to camp to do some work. its tough trying to get everything done with only a day or 2 here and there to get work done. new heat system for the entire camp, i had everything done except for the vent and fresh air intakes plumbed. once I had the heat on through the entire camp it was time to open the archway to make it all one place,,,,, was going to be nice not having to walk all the way around to get into the new addition. pine finished on living room wall around the archway. started laying the hickory flooring from the existing hickory flooring and carrying it out into the new addition. progressing into the new room with the flooring, I had to back lay almost 8 feet of flooring to carry the flooring throughout the entire first floor. entrance way by saturday night I had a good dent in the flooring,, couldn't hardly move by midnight but I had almost 400 sq. feet of flooring down... Ziva thinks the new flooring is pretty nice.

his property? His buck. If I leave a $20 bill on a park bench I don't expect it to still be there. The company should do a better job protecting their investment. What would they do anyhow trample all over his land and tranq it? Good for the buck for escaping and good for the kid for killing it. $20k? good lord...

Call Matt Cantrell. He does a great job. I saw some fox mounted in his shop.

If you find a spot with lots of sign and wait it out you will see deer, I think you moved to other locations without giving the spot you were in a chance. I have sat in a spot for a week and seen nothing but squirrels, however if you sit there long enough the deer will cycle trough.

Where does the line form ?

I wouldn't be worried so much about the take being too high but more about stressing the deer farther along into winter. Later probably isn't that big a deal in the Carolinas where the winters are a lot milder.

been in pa more than ny the last couple months. but I needed to come back to start a house build here. a fresh coat of snow thanksgiving morning at camp. since mother nature decorated outside i decorated the inside. I could only fit 7 deer mounts in Judy's crossover and a few duck mounts so I will just have to take a few mounts each trip down to camp. a few small bucks in the stairway.

That'd go over real well here.................................LOL!

I just realized that I posted in Live From the Stand thread instead of this one, so I'll just copy and paste it if that's ok. Got it done last night with the bow in 1C. It seems like the second rut is in full swing down here on the Island. I scouted the area yesterday morning and I found plenty of new rubs in the woods as well as a few new scrapes. Even though it is a last light spot, I did get in a little later than I would have liked. I almost thought about bailing out as I was kicking up deer on the way in. I'm glad I didn't. It seemed liked everything was moving a little earlier last night. The weather was perfect. Very light NE winds, cold, and some flurries. Shortly after getting settled in, I had 4 does come in. The biggest one was no dummy. There was another stand about 50 yards from that someone left in the area. She came in with her head up looking for someone in it that wasn't there. Then she appeared to be checking every other tree in the area. I thought to myself, she's a smart one and needs to go. Unfortunately, she never gave me a shot. After they moved off, I also saw a 4 point with his nose to the ground, then he stopped to freshen up a scrape. He got a pass. Had 5 more does come in as it was getting dark as well as seeing a few more moving around in the thickets. Then a solid 8 with some decent mass appeared on the edge of the clearing about 60 yards out. He stood there for a few minutes checking out the area. Then just as I was losing light, he made a beeline towards me and the scrape. At 32 yards he went broadside, and I let one fly. Found my arrow and it looked good, but I decided to back out anyway and come back with a good light after dinner. I was literally on my hands and knees trying to get through blow downs and thorny thickets following his blood trail. He only went about 100 yards with a double lung hit. Not my best buck, but def my biggest this late in the season and a really good one for the area I was in, considering all of the pressure that is there earlier in the season.

My next pic will be in 6 years when I finish growing out my mullet like my idol, FSW Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Biz, I noticed that there is always a big smile on your face when you post pictures. Is that because you are generally a happy guy, or you are showing off your teeth to the hunters who don't have any??

Check this doe out, Main and Youngs in Williamsville

need an after pic, before you eat it!!

You guys are a bunch of thankless SOB's. JHC, I'm pointing out .22 ammo that has been damn near impossible to find and all you do is dig it down? They had probably 50 buckets sitting there THEN. Sorry if it wasn't there the the day before......I'll try harder next time. Dirty ammo? OK, what did you buy in place of it? You stocked up years ago huh? "Aren't you the Man Who See's The Future", I hope while you were stocking up on .22 ammo you were buying Apple stock at $4.57/share 10 years ago or maybe it was McDonald's 40 years ago? That price ($69.99 for 1400ct bucket) works out to $25 a brick plus tax. Please let me and the rest of the folks here know where to get it for a similar price today?

Cool- sounds like he put a good shot on it during legal shooting hours..... not everyone here can say THAT looking back on their seasons.

Damn, that's a pile of jerky!! LOL

It does pose an interesting question. If it is livestock, as VJP suggested, then there are penalties for that. However, how to you prove that the hunter not only knew about an escaped deer, but knew that this is the same one? After all, it is legal to hunt deer and how do you determine this is the exact buck that escaped? Along the same lines - if deer are considered "livestock" in this situation, then how does that reconcile with hunting seasons? If you raise cows or goats, there are no rules about when you can process them. I have horses (livestock) - nothing stopping me from putting one down at anytime. Classifying farm raised deer as livestock would theoretically allow hunting those deer 365 days/year.

I would have told them about it but at the same time I am not sure if I would want them running all over my land during deer season to retrieve it and mess up my year.Dammed if you do,dammed if you don't sort of thing.

good for him it could have spread something to the wild population

I think it would be considered livestock jrm.

I tend to believe once the deer escapes, it is no longer the property of the business. When you lose something in the ocean, it belongs to whoever salvages it because it's considered abandoned, unless it was insured. If it was insured, the insurance co. pays off on it and it is then legally theirs. This buck may have been insured too, but once it's dead I don't think the insurance company would want to take it back. The ranch lost it to the wilderness and the young man salvaged it. It won't qualify for B&C, but it will look good on his wall and have an interesting story to go along with it forever.

playing devils advocate, what if he didn't know it was pen raised? there's nothing illegal about it.

Biz...Does that have to be seven different kinds/species of fishes, or would it work to eat, say, seven sardines or seven smelt..?... And what if you are really hungry and eat EIGHT..?..

yep, no debating her existence.......

105"...............2.5 years old.

..AHH the memories of having only 2 weeks to bow hunt. Not happy with seemingly endless big game season as now set up. I prefer to old days of taking 6-7 days to hunt bow, then matriculate into shotgun season for about 3 weeks, then you're done. Extended big game season seems endless and a bit boring....sort of like the NFL. I was excited to sit down and watch a couple of games every Sunday, plus the Thanksgiving games. Now games and season are extended beyond belief into Thursdays, Saturdays, Super bowl into February,etc.. I feel the same about hunting now when seasons are extended the way they are now. Maybe just getting a little old,crotchety and batchy, sorry.

There is one outstanding advantage for ground standing. It is way more exciting to meet your prey, eyeball-to-eyeball on their own terms. When you are standing on the ground a deer walks by so close you could almost reach out and touch it, gender, size, and scores all become secondary as that experience alone tops just about everything else in hunting whether it is some monster buck, or a fawn.

Surprised that no one mentioned the biggest disadvantage of the tree stand. Every season, falls from those causes more serious injuries and deaths to hunters than from any other cause. With a vertical bow, they definitely have an advantage when it comes to fooling a deer in close. Not so much with a crossbow or gun however. I wouldn't be suprised at all to see hunter injuries drop significantly since NY allowed the x-bow this year. I just wish they would give us the rest of archery season. That would pretty much eliminate my need to ever hunt from an elevated stand. Where I rifle hunt in the Adirondack mountains, up in the northern zone, there is no need for tree stands or blinds, as a chair set up on a high ridge, looking down on a valley provides an ideal vantage point, often several hundred feet above the deer, just due to the topography.

I would like to see a late December "primitive weapons" season. Similar the PA's flintlock season also allowing exposed hammer/nipple fixed breech percussion rifles or muskets. Loose powder, patched roundball or full bore sized lead conicals. Iron sights.

I prefer a Ma-Deuce mounted in the bed of a pick-up. Anchors 'em on the spot!

I would not be disappointed with him, good buck

2nd Fox today

Actually when I'm not focused on the act of hunting I'm usually thinking about work or home life. At one point i hired an employee from the stand last month. Idle mind usually leads me to not staying on stand or in the woods.

Wow. Now we are talking about bullying. It is a forum on the internet. There are tons of them. If people don't like what is said, all you have to do is go to another site, or turn it off. I can never understand the logic of thinking you have to debate every subject back and forth for days, and then get mad about it. I think the moderators do a good job here with not shutting people or posts down except for very extreme rule breaking. What the heck, now some are calling for censorship? Give me a break. I don't agree with a lot of posts on here. Guess what I do? I don't feel the overwhelming urge to comment, I ignore it. Any forum is full of people that think they are always right, and there is no way you are going to change that fact. Hunting is full of people from all walks of life. Some like to talk about it, some like to debate about it, and some like to flat out argue about it. Some of our debaters are newer members, and some have been around for years. Some of them stay civil and actually read what others posts, and some just post and post some more. The main thing is to try and agree to disagree on some subjects and stay civil. Hell, Belo and Bubba argue back and forth all the time, sometimes getting a little heated, but they always seem to get back to one another when it seems they hate each other most of the time. They have just learned take their shots and receive some in return without getting too mad most of the time. Guarantee neither of them want this site censored. Last year Bubba had had enough, and he took a break from the site. He was welcomed back like a long lost friend because he is a valuable asset to the forum. I guess all I'm trying to say in this long winded speech is, if you are going to dish it out, you better be prepared to take it in return. I consider almost anyone that takes the time to post ideas, thoughts, pictures, or stories a valuable member to this forum. As a matter of fact, this is one of the best forums for our state I have found. Keep the debates going, and I welcome the moderators to participate all they want because they are hunters too.

Pretty close. All I do all day everyday is manage the reproduction on our 1800 cow dairy. My # priority is to get them pregnant so they will have another calf and make more milk. I know more about cow reproduction than a lot of veterinarians. Cows and deer are very similar...