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Let him come over. They watch TV in the family room and no blankets………..

Meet Moses, my new hunting partner. Hope to have him trained on Partridge, Ducks and tracking Deer. After having a Springer for 16 years, passed away 4 years ago, I was ready again. Why Moses? Name just came to me first time I picked him up. Guess you could say he parted the seas of my wife saying "No"!

More kids die drowning in swimming pools every year, but I don't see them pushing a law requiring a locked fence around pools. Their hearts are black and full of hatred for firearms.

I'm sure she'll be just fine, and you're just worried you didn't prepare her well enough to handle this day you knew would eventually come. She's probably more prepared for it than you are right now and she wont disappoint you. Unless this young lad came knocking at he door to pick her up holding a 6pk of Genny Lights..., you got nothing to worry about! I suspect your daughter has better taste then this anyhow,lol!

My daughter is 20. I have lived by the motto "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". The only way you are gonna get to know him is to have him around. And better yet that is a perfect way for him to get to know the crazy side of you.

Mine our 25, and ,22 and out of the house but here's how it went . First "dates" are at our home while we are home...... Ok if a kid shows up I have never met would i let him borrow my shotgun? Ok then why would I let him ride off with my daughter ? After we've met him a couple times the leash gets longer.

I went through this with my daughter at 16 wanting to date and having a boyfriend. At 17 she ended up with a kid she grew up with through school and in her karate program. My wife and I trusted him but he turned out to be an a$$ and coldhearted. In march 2014 when we lost my sister in law to cancer, and to whom my daughter looked up to as her second mom, my daughter was devastated and unconsolable. He was more concerned about becoming an RA at his college than being there for her. Needless to say she dumped his a$$ right after that and basically the word boyfriend has not come up since then. And now that she is going away to college she is looking forward to closing that chapter in her life and hopefully moving on to bigger and better things. As far as letting them go out or staying at home to watch movies, i would rather have them in my house while I'm home than out and about. On the other hand if she has an iPhone, " he find my iPhone" app works really well if you know what i mean. As far as trusting him or your daughter, if you raised your daughter right by giving her strong moral values, and knowing that she has a good head on her shoulders, then I would not be too worried. But one thing is for sure, no matter how old they get as a father you never stop worrying about them. But I guess they need to live and learn and hopefully they will take some of our advice as parents.

Not to worry, the only interest a young woman would have with this worn out old fart would be MONEY, and I don't have any.. Besides, I haven't had sex in so long I can't even remember who gets tied up !

My father in law told me when I first started dating my wife that he didn't have a problem going BACK to prison.

I guess you guys missed the satire in this article. I'm not even going to explain why that is the case. Clearly a wasted effort.

Well here is some advice from a youngin'. I'm 22 and can only imagine what you're worried about and being of the age, I can definitely understand the concerns. With that said, in my experience it's BEST if you're at the girls parents house. I wouldn't try any funny business at someone's house with their parents home. I respect women and their parents, I can only assume others do too. If you lock her down too much, be wary. I've met girls who have fathers that were the textbook hardasses and all I can say is they took that resistance and it didn't help the case. I know it has got to be hard... I can only imagine myself in your shoes. My advice is that you be stern, but also give her some room. The best thing you can do is control the environment.

Invite the kid over a couple of times.. Whenever he shows up, make sure you're field stripping your 1911 or sharpening a big knife and SMILING.... One of my daughter's ex-boyfriends is STILL convinced I want to shoot him, and she's been married for ten years...

I do not have children. I remember how I was at that age also. But, here's a thought, what you are feeling right now is how some father thought about you. They trusted you, so why not offer that trust as well?

sent in this date, it does seem that if they the DEC can screw the archer they will. I have been a gun and bow hunter my total life ( 74 years young now ) I sure love the early start now of Oct 1, I have bad lungs COPD, and legs are about gone, so the early start in Oct give me the ability to hunt, when it gets cold below 40's, I just no longer can be out there, so the gun season is no longer for me. The bow season I want the chance to take a buck or doe. In my area, after this winter I am seeing just about a few doe's on my pasture areas. I would like the DEC to start being for the hunter and no the insurance agents or farmer that would love all deer gone. I sure wish the DEC would try to have a program were a hunter could get the ability to hunt local farms if there were reported crop damage, the DEC could pay for some of the amount of damage if damage is due to deer. West Va had a program like that, the farmers were listed by County area and each farmer could say how many could hunt per day and how many days he allowed hunting. A hunter would pay a extra $5 to a damage fund for the DEC to use. The program was a great one that I utilized when I lived down south.

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This is only the 3'rd or 4'th Milk snake I've ever found. He was curled up sunning himself on a rock pile today but he slipped away before I could get a shot. I sat tight waiting for him to emerge again when I spotted him slithering out the other side of the pile towards a log pile. I pounced on him and made him my model for a little while. I finally had ALL my camera gear with me for a change so I set up a quick studio and fired away!

Uncharted waters here folks........................17 yo daughter going to movie with "boyfriend". She wanted him to come over and watch Netflixs and I said no. I'm nervous as hell about it and don't know how to handle it. IIRC he is 2 years older, a past classmate. What scares me is my memory is still pretty good and I remember how I was at 17, 19 or EVEN 13. This is difficult stuff for me........at this point probably the toughest yet. I know I'll be fine and more importantly so will she............... Kids...........I thought things would get easier as they got older!

NY politicians are putting your ability to defend your life in peril now. Funny they advance this bill when two escaped murderers are still on the loose. http://www.guns.com/2015/06/17/mandatory-gun-lock-law-passes-new-york-assembly/

I had to, I really had too...... http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/you-may-be-a-dangerous-paranoid-doomsday-prepper-if_04152013

I believe the main difference between a hunter and a photographer would be that the hunter plays an active role in conservation... not just in his contributions through the purchasing of his license, but in other things such as upkeep of habitat, population control, etc. Hunting may not be for everyone but hunting builds an awareness of wildlife that can be missed by other ways of enjoying wildlife. Not to mention... I enjoy can enjoy both hunting and photographing wildlife... double the fun. I think it's like the old adage, " If I have to explain... you wouldn't understand."

so I just found out Tues night that a guy I know of shoots the FMJ Dangerous Game version and his finished arrow weight was something like 750 grains that he routinely uses for deer. He tagged out early season with it too on a mature doe and a 140" class buck, so it's working well.

After the age of 12 your kids should already have what they need to do the right thing... if you haven't gotten the message across by then you're in for some sleepless nights. At 17 all you'll be doing by saying no is giving her all the more reason to do things behind your back. Just my take on it.

LOL, brother is breeding another litter next year!

my 18 year olds boy friend came over one night for dinner we went coon hunting after we were walking along a deep holler and i made a off hand remark that they never find a body down there now he treats her long gold

Jeez, we would probably be safer sending our daughters on that date with Pygmy then. You figure at his age he probably might have ED, so at least we won't have the "sex" part to worry about. LOL

Because we all know kids don't have sex until they are out of college.(insert tongue in cheek here)

Some interesting predictions about world events in the next decade. http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/16/stratfor-has-11-chilling-predictions-for-what-the-world-will-loo/21196794/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl10%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D-375286235

I didn't have a alot of girlfriends around that age, a few I guess. I never had any girls father's come across as over protective . I would introduce myself when I picked them up first time and always got along good with their fathers. I think most father's can spot a bad egg before it becomes a problem.

My daughter is 9 and this little boy passed her a not and his number. I almost lost it.

My daughter is just starting the dating teen phase. The best advise is raise them right before you get to this age!! They should know what healthy relationships are with friends or boyfriends and how people should be treated. They should hopefully have values and morals you have been trying to instill in them forever now. That said it is hard to look at any boy near my daughter knowing what teen boys can be like! My daughter has never been allowed to go anywhere with anyone boys or girls that we did not meet and approve of first. And with a little recon work...we live in a fairly small town so that is easier. She has her first boyfriend now and he has been warned by me, my mother in law(that was funny!), and about 4 of my big mean looking friends.... He is actually a decent kid so far. But he comes here and either my wife or I are around supervising. And starting a few short trips during daytime like for pizza... he drives which is another issue. My wife made him drive her around to judge his driving skills. I don't want to let her out of my sight ever lol but I realize I need to trust my daughter to some extent and reinforce that we are always there for her and try to minimize bad decisions...

17 year old girls like dating Pygmy. They get a kick out of him losing his dentures when biting into the pizza! LOL

lol @espresso liking grow's comment. He just doesn't get it

Geez ...ya know I've been bird watching as of late...imagine my surprise to sign in here and see a bird. Though not really surprised, because the population of " Pot Stirring Twits" seems to be on the rise...kind of like a starling ,dirty little birds...

I really doubt that all this talk about flashing gun metal and trophies in front of the face of your daughters boyfriend will stop them from doing what they want to do. Don't forget it takes TWO to tango, so in most cases all the blame can't fall on the boyfriend. Girls want boyfriends and relationships more than the boys do, so if you put all the blame on the boy you're only looking at the situation the way you want to see it while trying to avoid putting any blame on your daughter. Whatever might happen between them, I think in the vast majority of cases they will BOTH be willing participants. The best anyone can hope for is to instill values in children from a young age and hopefully it will carry thru in their lives once they start making their own decisions. Other than that there isn't much a parent can do about it. If you shoot that wiseass boyfriend, it will be YOUR ass ending up in jail and not his.

Woo Hooo ! What a thread !

At 17 she should have had the talk already. My daughter is 11, starting to have crushes on boys, and the talks (yes, there will be more than one of them) have already started.

There is nothing you could do about it. Let nature take its course or you could make things worse. Let him over at the house so you could get to know him better. It will make things easier on everyone.......

Here's what's in the regular 'news' these days, the 'news' you seem to value so much: Boys can be girls if they want to (and have enough cash) Whites can be Black if they want to, if they believe enough and have access to plenty of Quick -Tan All is relativism. All is cultural Marxism. Tell us C, how big is Kim Kardasian's butt this week?

It's time for The Talk!

If there is anyone on this site who has not read The Omnivores Dilemma, I urge them to do so. Literally, the omnivores dilemma is - what am I going to eat? The author learns to hunt to provide himself with a meal he acquired by himself - without shopping.

I have two Daughters ... I always show off my 8 Pointer on the wall to potential boyfriend candidates and give a short synopsis of my military history .... enough said !

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Sweet.

rob-bob.... The "derelict" post was just one of my feeble attempts at humor.. And as long as we're correcting each other, the proper term is "WOE is me"... I believe that "WOO is me" is a quote from Daffy Duck...

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I met my nieces boyfriend over a dinner and me and my bro the indirect "we'll kick your @$$ if you try anything funny" routine. It was easier for me since she's my niece as oppose to daughter but none the less it's still tough to think she's all grown up. From what I remember as a teen, teenagers will do what they will do. You just have to hope you did a good job up to that point. Rather than fight the tide, you can only hope to steer it in the right direction. So in that respect, I agree with Deerthug. She's going to date and she's going to do what she's going to do. It's better than it's done with your knowledge as oppose to behind your back. Netflix at your place is a great place to be.

There just isn't enough tin foil in the world...

This is another example of poor shot selection. The kid was not trying to hit the deer behind, but had the father been on the ball, he would have seen a very bad shot being set up and should have told the kid to wait. He dropped the ball there, and it could have turned out very ugly. I am going to give them the benefit of a doubt and assume that wherever they were hunting, he had the appropriate tags to cover the two deer. But I would have liked to have seen the father say something about taking that kind of shot so the kid could have learned something, and anybody watching that video does not take this double kill on as a goal. We can only hope that that point was made off-camera. I think the father gets the "unethical" ding on this one.

There is no reason for a woodchuck to taste bad. They are vegetarians with the same diet as rabbits ..... BUT ..... I just can't do it. I have even gone as far as dressing one out in preparation for eating, and still couldn't do it. It's just another one of those unexplainable biases. Of course those remembered images of some of those nasty disgusting, runny, maggoty, stinking, oozing, woodchucks that our dog used to drag home and roll in may have something to do with that particular bias. Can't get that picture out of my mind.

I'd rather eat someone elses boogers or puke,lol