Kludes Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The rut is definatly starting seen multiple bucks chasing does and i hunt in Middlesex haven't witnessed at home Macedon though .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 What precisely defines the rut as being "on"? Always wondered that....Mid-Oct. in Rochester area to me has never qualified as being "on". Not saying I don't believe you at all, I've just never personally believe it in general. I would loosely classify this period as pre-rut and at the beginning portion of it. Things will heat up in the next week as sign posting hits high gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwallace Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The calls are bringing them in so I think they are at least thinking about it! Cold nights are helping! Starting to see more sign. For the rcord, those buck bombs are raunchy. They work good but man the smell is nasty. I got some on my hunting glove and somehow when I put my face cover on it got on it. Damn did that stink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I think the younger bucks are starting to get an inkling, but its gonna be another week or so before the big boys get going. I have seen 3 1 1/2 year olds hit on the road in the last week, but have seen no chasing going on. On the farm I hunt, they regular scrapes are just starting to get opened up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 From what I have witnessed here, I would say the breeding season has started. Actually witnessed an older buck very interested in a smaller doe. Their was no running, on the part of the doe. Although not witnessed, I would say breeding was taking place., by the actions of the pair. This, in my opinion, is extremely early, but not unusual for this area. I dislike the term rut, and never use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I would say here in CNY they are maybe just coming out of summer pattern and starting very early pre rut. There will be about 2 weeks till it gets heated up here. You will always have a couple instances out of the norm. My opinion of course and it is worth what you paid for it!! Edited October 17, 2012 by Fletch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludes Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yea pre rut would be rite as I seen bucks chasing does head down to ground then he came back and scraped and pissed before leaving then seen a different buck chasing a doe and found a bunch of fresh scrapes on way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I took a buck Saturday morning. (Onondaga Co.) He came sniffing out a trail that does had come down about 20 mins, earlier. He wasn't totally on fire but he was following them for sure. This week end should be good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Sm bucks are excited and will chase any pretty doe out there so to speak watched it all week,A single doe hear and there may be ready but actuall breeding is 2 weeks+ away. main scrapes are just being opened. i 've had multiple sm buck sparing matches on camera. but the big boys know to wait..why expend their energy yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3885 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 On my farm just north of Randlph ,NY, I have yet to see any scrapes or rubs. I know it will be soon but the lack of sign is getting to me.I' m not seeing the movement ,only a few does in the field in the evening.. I'm starting to think that my neighbors , 2 rogue cows that are roaming the woods would have something to do with it. But I would doubt that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggamefish Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Just amping up. The real rut hasn't started. Things are getting going though. Kinda like warm up laps at a race track. Driving by you might say they are racing but in reality they are not. By no means am I saying there isn't early breeding going on etc. But I don't think we have her high gear yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accman Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Last Saturday, in Westchester, had a nice 8 point walk through bout 125 yards away, scraping his route, nose to the ground the whole way. Did not answer to light grunting as I didn't want to seem to aggressive this early in the season. My son went up to Orange county on Sunday, had a huge 8 come up his hill only to veer away from his side. He called twice and let out one big grunt. That turned him around and headed right at him. Shot him 15 yards from the stand. Real nice size 8 for that area. The running around by me doesn't get into full stride till the end of October, then they just go crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 from what i see by me, smaller bucks are starting to feel there oats chasing up some does. Have a few scrapes flare up, not really been getting freshened up yet. i think in the next week things will start heating up in the woods and getting more shooters show up in day light hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Sm bucks are excited and will chase any pretty doe out there so to speak watched it all week,A single doe hear and there may be ready but actuall breeding is 2 weeks+ away. main scrapes are just being opened. i 've had multiple sm buck sparing matches on camera. but the big boys know to wait..why expend their energy yet. Two buddies are hunting down in Portville this week. They reported in last night and are seeing the same as you. One of them took a big doe, but the bucks they see are small. Clicking horns.. half a$$ chasing does. No big ones yet. I would guess pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Pre-rutting is definitely starting.. it will be a bit before the rut kicks in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 barely any scrapes opened up around here.Gotta make a mock one to get them going i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have seen some bucks locked on doe, but when i hear gruntin wheezin crashing and fightin then ill believe its "on". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 i never even hear that when it is "on".Just the areas i hunt i guess.Only time i ever heard rattling it was a neighbor.Even all the times i hunted state land.I try to be as stealth as possible too.Have had many all day sits.Ive heard late season tending grunts.But really want to hear and even see a couple bucks fighting.That is the reason i get up at 3:30 am on a saturday and sunday to go hunting even after getting up at 3:30 all week to get to work.LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Just because WE have been out there two weeks early does not mean Mama Nature is goin to get those deer romances started two weeks early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) I would say here in CNY they are maybe just coming out of summer pattern and starting very early pre rut. There will be about 2 weeks till it gets heated up here. You will always have a couple instances out of the norm. My opinion of course and it is worth what you paid for it!! Im with you bucks still paired up and 1 1/2old bucks runing the button bucks off from Does.. Next week my guess here.. Have seen 8 different bucks all alone or together. Not interested in the does feeding.. Always around Halloween chasing and breeding seems to start around here..??? As far as I have been told and learned rut is determined by amount of daylight???/ Edited October 18, 2012 by Bowshotmuzzleloader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelieman Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Pre- Rut maybe, people kill me every year its the same thing, Its gonna be an early rut, Granted a few deer will be coming into heat here and there, But the Rut ( by that im assuming the chase phase) Isnt really gonna kick in until around halloween and then it will be another few days to a week before its full blown, Then around 28 days later the secound rut will come in, Mostly the activity you are seeing is normal interaction between a very social group of animals, Think like this guys you enjoy the way a women smells right, well Guess what so dont bucks, Just saying, Ive spent countless hours watching deer over the last ten years or so even in the middle of summer you will see deer following each other around, But for those who dont watch always assume that the rut is on when bow season opens normally Oct. 15th , Some guys on here have been bowhunting longer than ive been alive and out of all them years how many of you have you seen the rut ( by that i mean the chase phase )start before halloween, And how many times. I really need to know? Im part of an achery club and we have 100 or so members out witch i know almost all of them, Out of all of them only a small few are not hunters, And after talking to them most will say that maybe once or twice in the last 30 or so years has the rut ever been actually early, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 6424 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 A few more cold nights with a light rain and some spits of the white stuff it will be on but not yet I agree with the masses its more pre then the real deal good luck to all and may you get the one you always dreamed of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skully Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It is not the rut........ Young bucks start chasing does in early september when in the mood. I would call it pre rut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burden24 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 You might see a few young bucks chasing does around but nothing to serious yet. I think everyone is anticipating the rut earlier this year because we have been hunting since October 1st instead of October 15th. Normally we would just be getting out there for the first time right now and no one would even mention the word rut until around the 25th. There will be always be a few doe that go into heat rather early but the bigger bucks know that now is not the time to burn that fat off that they have been building up all summer. I hate the phrase the rut is on lol its different all across the state and country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coonhunter Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I agree with Burden24 about the timing being different across the state. Every year, it seems my area is a week later than places my friends hunt at. It may just be the fact that they see a couple youngsters trailing or bothering the does, and I don't worry too much until i see a two year old actively running a doe. For hunters that have never seen active rutting behavior, it is easy to be fooled by the youngsters, but when it happens for real, it is awesome if you hunt in a good area with a few older bucks. I have seen some sights over the years that people can't even believe happen around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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