moog5050 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 We all have some float over the target when shooting our bow at 20yds. 1”, 2, 3, 5, etc. I was noticing today that when I settle well the float is an inch or so but if I am not on my game it can be 2” or more at 20. Perfect DL also makes a marked difference for me in size of float. Just curious. I still tend to try to time the float too which I know is not recommended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I also usually float the pin over my target about an inch. I use to get target panic really bad and that float would open up much more luckily this year I've been keeping the target panic under control and keeping the float to about an inch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 My float is Macy's Parade worthy........... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 It depends if my target panic flares up like it did last night ,if thats the case then i cant even get the pin over the target. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jeremy K said: It depends if my target panic flares up like it did last night ,if thats the case then i cant even get the pin over the target. Seriously? That would suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Seriously? That would suck. I wanted to tase him to get him to let down a couple timesSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, The_Real_TCIII said: I wanted to tase him to get him to let down a couple times Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro That’s a mind F if I ever heard it. Not being able to voluntarily move the POA sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDrake Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I have developed a horrible case of arm freeze. I lock up 6 inches below the POA and feel i need a winch to raise my bow arm. I have worked through it rather well but it is a horrible condition. My mind says move...my arm says no. It was so bad last season I sat it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I played with a SCRATCH golfer a whileBack who had a similar issue with his golf swing. He would get to the top of his swing and freeze(and then start laughing). He could NOT get his swing to move forward. Took him 3 tries on some shots to start his downswing. Painful (and slowed pace of play terribly) to watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skillet Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, moog5050 said: We all have some float over the target when shooting our bow at 20yds. 1”, 2, 3, 5, etc. I was noticing today that when I settle well the float is an inch or so but if I am not on my game it can be 2” or more at 20. Perfect DL also makes a marked difference for me in size of float. Just curious. I still tend to try to time the float too which I know is not recommended. I still time it, too. My biggest thing is not to think about my shot. I have to just aim and shoot. When I get in my head, I float bad. Edited September 19, 2019 by Skillet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) When I am on and in the zone very little, but tonight my son and I went to the club and shot their outdoor paper targets. Uneven ground so no optimum foot placement / stance , slightly up hill and angled targets. So it was a rough night for me, definitely had some major rust going on. I couldn’t settle in the middle and had some major float going on . One realizes quickly that shooting in the nice even yard is easy compared to actual woods shooting. Edited September 20, 2019 by rob-c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 My wife says it's the biggest she's had, for some reason I'm not buying it. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Some days it is an inch,some days more like three. I will let you know when i figure out what makes the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 hours ago, moog5050 said: Seriously? That would suck. It sucks and its frustrating as all heck ,some days i can be comfortable and other days i lock up below where i wanna hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, Jeremy K said: It sucks and its frustrating as all heck ,some days i can be comfortable and other days i lock up below where i wanna hit. Does it happen when hunting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, moog5050 said: Does it happen when hunting? Never has 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, moog5050 said: Does it happen when hunting? One inch float, 3 inches of clothing, big problem when u need to take a leak. Sorry to detail ur thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Jermy I have the same thing that's happening to you happen to me every year while target shooting. I some times i have to walk to with in 10' of the target close my eyes draw the bow back anchor open my eyes and release. I repeat that for a little while. It helps big time when I get target panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Red said: Jermy I have the same thing that's happening to you happen to me every year while target shooting. I some times i have to walk to with in 10' of the target close my eyes draw the bow back anchor open my eyes and release. I repeat that for a little while. It helps big time when I get target panic. I worked with jeff at niagara outdoors in the spring time to get over it . If i do the exercises and drills he showed me ,i can keep it suppressed . The pressure to shoot a good score during league really brings it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jeremy K said: I worked with jeff at niagara outdoors in the spring time to get over it . If i do the exercises and drills he showed me ,i can keep it suppressed . The pressure to shoot a good score during league really brings it out. That's cool that you have drills to help you keep it suppressed. I wouldn't be able to shoot in a league or in a big group of people I would feel like I sucked and that would bring the target panic out quick. The target panic is a huge PIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Jeremy K said: It sucks and its frustrating as all heck ,some days i can be comfortable and other days i lock up below where i wanna hit. I have had mild problems with it and found what helps me is moving my hips forward to raise the pin up. Forget about the arm. It makes you lean back a little and raises the pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodfather Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I use to have target panic and still do after to many arrows . But what helped me was #1 changing my release and my grip. I also stopped thinking about how I’m breathing. That use to mess with my head 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 20 yds on a target.....about 1" float.....20 yds on a nice deer shaking like a leaf....20" of float give or take.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, ApexerER said: 20 yds on a target.....about 1" float.....20 yds on a nice deer shaking like a leaf....20" of float give or take.... On a deer, I don't seem to have the time to think about float. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, sodfather said: I use to have target panic and still do after to many arrows . But what helped me was #1 changing my release and my grip. I also stopped thinking about how I’m breathing. That use to mess with my head I recently went through some issues with arrows hitting all over the place. Part of the problem was the bow, part of the problem was me. A simple tiny movement down, with the rest helped the bow part. (thanks moog) Due to shoulder issues, and a new bow this year, I noticed my form changed slightly, after filming some shots with my phone. I was moving the bow arm during the shot. And punching the release instead of squeezing it, during the float when the pin hit the target. So my grip now has my bow hand in a V, with fingers forward and not curled around the on the grip. And with my mental check down of the shot, I now include "SQUEEZE" and "FOLLOW THROUGH" while the pin floats near/around the target. What a huge turn around in accuracy by making these simple adjustments. Sometimes it really is the little things that make a big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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