Our soldiers are Losers

[Steuben Jerry]

33 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

efforts made by the Dems to prolong the counting. (mail ins)

A completely manufactured crisis by the Dems. Why else would they introduce mail in voting now?

Edited September 17, 2020 by Steuben Jerry

[Versatile_Hunter]

 

Truly unprecedented:

https://repair45.org/ 

https://www.defendingdemocracytogether.org/ 

[BowmanMike]

On 9/9/2020 at 9:59 AM, grampy said:

I admit that Trump is an egotistical blowhard. But given the choices this election, there is no question who will get my vote. Trump.

Do you really think that voting for the socialist left is better for guys like us? If so, how?

Grampy,who do you think socialists suport more? Billionaires or working people? Who does trump care about?

[9jNYstarkOH]

1 hour ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

Ok, one last time. In the absence of evidence that widespread mask use was essential in preventing the spread of Covid, recommending mask use exclusively to frontline workers (circulating air in hospital spaces, frequent interactions with Covid patiens, etc.) is not lying. Once clear that widespread mask use would help prevent the spread, the word was out. Now, I’m not going to be an apologist for this hamstrung version of the CDC. You saw just yesterday Trump once more undermining the agency…this is detrimental. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/16/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-masks-health-experts/index.html 

First I never mentioned widespread or universal mask use you stated that.what I said was the cdc lied and stated we should not wear mask, see that was the lie not base on science. As it has been know that mask prevent the spread of viruses (like h1n1 the virus Obama/Biden did not restock the national stockpile after). If the cdc did not say anything about mask that would have been fine but when it was not recommended to wear a mask with a know highly infectious disease that was the lie. As you stated they wanted to shore up ppe supplies for front line workers that does not make it the truth it’s still just a lie with a reason again not based on science

you seem good with words put I will attach the definition of lie as you seem to have a hard time with this small one

you talk about reputable news sources than you attach a link to CNN I bias hack news network also see attachment.

Again if this was the only part of My statement to chef you disagree with that is not to bad. I believe if you didn’t come across like a arrogant bag of watered down vinaigrette I think you may have better dialogue with people when you come into a conversation.

Edited September 17, 2020 by 9jNYstarkOH

[phantom]

2 hours ago, Chef said:

For the first time I’m starting to believe this may not be true... the question I really have is will Trump accept a loss and leave quietly or while he try to remain in power.


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[9jNYstarkOH]

6 hours ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

You’ve just disclosed your fundamental misunderstanding. Scientists don’t discredit each other based on what they believe. They instead subscribe to a system of rational disbelief which employs the scientific method to disprove and to approach the truth. Disagreement based on evidence is different than lying to discredit scientists/doctors whose findings are politically disadvantageous to you. The difference is like night and day.  

Also I never stated the scientists discredited each other on belief in the original comment I said its all about which ones you believe. You disclosed your fundamental misunderstanding by acting aggrogent about something you miss read in a comment not directed to you but you wanted to jump in a prove me wrong which in all honesty you still haven’t but it’s been fun. 

Edited September 17, 2020 by 9jNYstarkOH

[squirrelwhisperer]

1 hour ago, BowmanMike said:

Who does trump care about?

Americans

Edited September 17, 2020 by squirrelwhisperer

[BowmanMike]

Just now, squirrelwhisperer said:

Americans

haha,some of them,true.

[BowmanMike]

On 9/10/2020 at 9:44 AM, ApexerER said:

Notice that nobody has jumped in and said how Biden is going to improve their life......!

Biden would make my life better because i wouldn't have to read about trumps blunders or listen to him speak.

That alone deserves my vote.

[9jNYstarkOH]

4 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

Biden would make my life better because i wouldn't have to read about trumps blunders or listen to him speak.

That alone deserves my vote.

Biden is a blunder and a gaffe and his speaking doesn’t even make sense, but at least the media will cover for him until kamala becomes president 

[Versatile_Hunter]

On 9/10/2020 at 9:44 AM, ApexerER said:

Notice that nobody has jumped in and said how Biden is going to improve their life......!

I’ve covered this already but it must not have been too compelling to you. Maybe you’ll find the answer from former Republican national security officials more compelling than mine:

 

For the following reasons, we have concluded that Donald Trump has failed our country and that Vice President Joe Biden should be elected the next President of the United States.

1. Donald Trump has gravely damaged America’s role as a world leader. Trump has disgraced America’s global reputation and undermined our nation’s moral and diplomatic influence. He has called NATO “obsolete,” branded Europe a “foe,” mocked the leaders of America’s closest friends, and threatened to terminate longstanding US alliances. Other global leaders, friends and foes alike, view him as unreliable, unstable, and unworthy of respect.
2. Donald Trump has shown that he is unfit to lead during a national crisis. Instead of rallying the American people and the world to confront the coronavirus, Trump has spent the past half year spreading misinformation, undermining public health experts, attacking state and local officials, and wallowing in self-pity. He has demonstrated far greater concern about the fate of his reelection than the health of the American people.
3. Donald Trump has solicited foreign influence and undermined confidence in our presidential elections. Trump publicly asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to assist his 2016 campaign, called on Chinese president Xi Jinping to “start an investigation” into his current political opponent, and pressured the president of Ukraine to act against his opponent. Citing exaggerated claims of voter fraud, he has challenged the integrity of this year’s election, even suggesting that it be postponed.
4. Donald Trump has aligned himself with dictators and failed to stand up for American values. Trump has regularly praised the actions of dictators and human rights abusers. He proclaimed his “love” and “great respect” for North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un, endorsed “brilliant leader” Xi Jinping’s move to serve as China’s president for life, repeatedly sided with Vladimir Putin against our own intelligence community, and pronounced himself a “big fan” of Turkish president Recep Erdogan despite his crackdown on democracy.
5. Donald Trump has disparaged our armed forces, intelligence agencies, and diplomats. Trump has attacked Gold Star families, scoffed at American prisoners of war, interfered in the military justice system, and embroiled our military in domestic politics. He has ridiculed US intelligence agencies and falsely branded our nation’s diplomats as the “deep state.”
6. Donald Trump has undermined the rule of law. Trump has compromised the independence of the Department of Justice, repeatedly attacked federal judges, and punished government officials who have sought to uphold the law. To protect himself from accountability, he has fired officials who launched investigations or testified against him, threatened whistleblowers, dangled pardons as incentives to stay silent, and blocked prison time for a political crony convicted of lying on his behalf. He has impugned journalists investigating his misconduct and has repeatedly denounced the press as the “enemy of the people.”
7. Donald Trump has dishonored the office of the presidency. Trump engages in childish name-calling, mocks the disabled, belittles women, persistently lies, peddles baseless conspiracy theories, and continually embarrasses Americans in the eyes of the world.
8. Donald Trump has divided our nation and preached a dark and pessimistic view of America. Trump consistently seeks to incite political, racial, and ethnic divisions, weakening our nation and delighting our adversaries. In contrast to Reagan’s vision of America as a “shining city on a hill,” Trump speaks of “American carnage,” pits Americans against each other, and stokes fears that “angry mobs” and “anarchists” are destroying our country.
9. Donald Trump has attacked and vilified immigrants to our country. Trump routinely denigrates immigrants and inflames prejudices as he seeks support for his reelection. Despite America’s legacy as a nation of immigrants, he has demonized Americans who come from other countries, even telling members of Congress whose families immigrated to the United States to “go back” to the “crime-infested places” from which they came.
10. Donald Trump has imperiled America’s security by mismanaging his national security team. Trump has dismissed or replaced — often by tweet — the secretaries of State, Defense, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Directors of National Intelligence and the FBI, three National Security Advisors, and other senior officials in critical national security positions, many because they refused to cover for his misdeeds or demonstrate sufficient personal loyalty.

While we – like all Americans – had hoped that Donald Trump would govern wisely, he has disappointed millions of voters who put their faith in him and has demonstrated that he is dangerously unfit to serve another term.

In contrast, we believe Joe Biden has the character, experience, and temperament to lead this nation. We believe he will restore the dignity of the presidency, bring Americans together, reassert America’s role as a global leader, and inspire our nation to live up to its ideals.

While some of us hold policy positions that differ from those of Joe Biden and his party, the time to debate those policy differences will come later. For now, it is imperative that we stop Trump’s assault on our nation’s values and institutions and reinstate the moral foundations of our democracy.

To that end, we are firmly convinced that it is in the best interest of our nation that Vice President Joe Biden be elected as the next President of the United States, and we will vote for him.

 

 

https://www.defendingdemocracytogether.org/national-security/

[Steuben Jerry]

[BowmanMike]

16 minutes ago, 9jNYstarkOH said:

Biden is a blunder and a gaffe and his speaking doesn’t even make sense, but at least the media will cover for him until kamala becomes president 

You must not listen to Trump much. Herd mentality will prevail over coronavirus. 

[9jNYstarkOH]

6 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

You must not listen to Trump much. Herd mentality will prevail over coronavirus. 

Not what I was saying at all both have blunders but most media companies only makes a big deal about trumps Biden’s won’t be mentioned at all and I don’t believe Biden will be president for long.

Edited September 17, 2020 by 9jNYstarkOH

[Robhuntandfish]

4 hours ago, Chef said:

For the first time I’m starting to believe this may not be true... the question I really have is will Trump accept a loss and leave quietly or while he try to remain in power.


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I am not a fan of either of the presidential choices for different reasons, but I am concerned about what happens on Nov 4th if it's too close to tell or close enough that votes need to count.  I can see a whole lot of rioting being possible.  And I will say I think far more of it will occur from the left as they have proven that to be the.case over the last few months.  But either way it is a possible powderkeg. And 2020 rolls on as an ever loving mess.  

 

 

[phantom]

35 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

I’ve covered this already but it must not have been too compelling to you. Maybe you’ll find the answer from former Republican national security officials more compelling than mine:

 

For the following reasons, we have concluded that Donald Trump has failed our country and that Vice President Joe Biden should be elected the next President of the United States.

1. Donald Trump has gravely damaged America’s role as a world leader. Trump has disgraced America’s global reputation and undermined our nation’s moral and diplomatic influence. He has called NATO “obsolete,” branded Europe a “foe,” mocked the leaders of America’s closest friends, and threatened to terminate longstanding US alliances. Other global leaders, friends and foes alike, view him as unreliable, unstable, and unworthy of respect.
2. Donald Trump has shown that he is unfit to lead during a national crisis. Instead of rallying the American people and the world to confront the coronavirus, Trump has spent the past half year spreading misinformation, undermining public health experts, attacking state and local officials, and wallowing in self-pity. He has demonstrated far greater concern about the fate of his reelection than the health of the American people.
3. Donald Trump has solicited foreign influence and undermined confidence in our presidential elections. Trump publicly asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to assist his 2016 campaign, called on Chinese president Xi Jinping to “start an investigation” into his current political opponent, and pressured the president of Ukraine to act against his opponent. Citing exaggerated claims of voter fraud, he has challenged the integrity of this year’s election, even suggesting that it be postponed.
4. Donald Trump has aligned himself with dictators and failed to stand up for American values. Trump has regularly praised the actions of dictators and human rights abusers. He proclaimed his “love” and “great respect” for North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un, endorsed “brilliant leader” Xi Jinping’s move to serve as China’s president for life, repeatedly sided with Vladimir Putin against our own intelligence community, and pronounced himself a “big fan” of Turkish president Recep Erdogan despite his crackdown on democracy.
5. Donald Trump has disparaged our armed forces, intelligence agencies, and diplomats. Trump has attacked Gold Star families, scoffed at American prisoners of war, interfered in the military justice system, and embroiled our military in domestic politics. He has ridiculed US intelligence agencies and falsely branded our nation’s diplomats as the “deep state.”
6. Donald Trump has undermined the rule of law. Trump has compromised the independence of the Department of Justice, repeatedly attacked federal judges, and punished government officials who have sought to uphold the law. To protect himself from accountability, he has fired officials who launched investigations or testified against him, threatened whistleblowers, dangled pardons as incentives to stay silent, and blocked prison time for a political crony convicted of lying on his behalf. He has impugned journalists investigating his misconduct and has repeatedly denounced the press as the “enemy of the people.”
7. Donald Trump has dishonored the office of the presidency. Trump engages in childish name-calling, mocks the disabled, belittles women, persistently lies, peddles baseless conspiracy theories, and continually embarrasses Americans in the eyes of the world.
8. Donald Trump has divided our nation and preached a dark and pessimistic view of America. Trump consistently seeks to incite political, racial, and ethnic divisions, weakening our nation and delighting our adversaries. In contrast to Reagan’s vision of America as a “shining city on a hill,” Trump speaks of “American carnage,” pits Americans against each other, and stokes fears that “angry mobs” and “anarchists” are destroying our country.
9. Donald Trump has attacked and vilified immigrants to our country. Trump routinely denigrates immigrants and inflames prejudices as he seeks support for his reelection. Despite America’s legacy as a nation of immigrants, he has demonized Americans who come from other countries, even telling members of Congress whose families immigrated to the United States to “go back” to the “crime-infested places” from which they came.
10. Donald Trump has imperiled America’s security by mismanaging his national security team. Trump has dismissed or replaced — often by tweet — the secretaries of State, Defense, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Directors of National Intelligence and the FBI, three National Security Advisors, and other senior officials in critical national security positions, many because they refused to cover for his misdeeds or demonstrate sufficient personal loyalty.

While we – like all Americans – had hoped that Donald Trump would govern wisely, he has disappointed millions of voters who put their faith in him and has demonstrated that he is dangerously unfit to serve another term.

In contrast, we believe Joe Biden has the character, experience, and temperament to lead this nation. We believe he will restore the dignity of the presidency, bring Americans together, reassert America’s role as a global leader, and inspire our nation to live up to its ideals.

While some of us hold policy positions that differ from those of Joe Biden and his party, the time to debate those policy differences will come later. For now, it is imperative that we stop Trump’s assault on our nation’s values and institutions and reinstate the moral foundations of our democracy.

To that end, we are firmly convinced that it is in the best interest of our nation that Vice President Joe Biden be elected as the next President of the United States, and we will vote for him.

 

 

https://www.defendingdemocracytogether.org/national-security/

 

 

Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian official, citing Israel-UAE peace deal

 

try again guy 

 

[Shoots100]

Phantom is really Kamala Harris.

Biden doesn't have a snowballs chance, but the media still promotes him, as they feel it's nice to give the demented a reason to live. 

Even if they prop up Ol' Joe and pump him full of drugs , the Dem powers that be know he won't last the whole debate on the 29th, and because of that, I'm sure there's going to be some kind of last minute "Emergency" to keep JB from attending the debate.

I really find it disgusting that the Dems have no issue with putting him on the world stage in his condition.

They had plenty of other viable candidates to choose from.

[phantom]

4 hours ago, Shoots100 said:

Phantom is really Kamala Harris.

Biden doesn't have a snowballs chance, but the media still promotes him, as they feel it's nice to give the demented a reason to live. 

Even if they prop up Ol' Joe and pump him full of drugs , the Dem powers that be know he won't last the whole debate on the 29th, and because of that, I'm sure there's going to be some kind of last minute "Emergency" to keep JB from attending the debate.

I really find it disgusting that the Dems have no issue with putting him on the world stage in his condition.

They had plenty of other viable candidates to choose from.

Yea its the VP taking over I am worried about  more then anything after all biden has a 47 year record of doing nothing which is a good thing when it comes to  what the far  left  have been wanting to do .  well except  his family did get over a billion from china gov   that's a big conflicted of interest   and they picked him anyway which  should tell you all you need to know  they should not be back in charge just for that reason alone . 

[9jNYstarkOH]

11 hours ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

I’ve covered this already but it must not have been too compelling to you. Maybe you’ll find the answer from former Republican national security officials more compelling than mine:

 

For the following reasons, we have concluded that Donald Trump has failed our country and that Vice President Joe Biden should be elected the next President of the United States.

1. Donald Trump has gravely damaged America’s role as a world leader. Trump has disgraced America’s global reputation and undermined our nation’s moral and diplomatic influence. He has called NATO “obsolete,” branded Europe a “foe,” mocked the leaders of America’s closest friends, and threatened to terminate longstanding US alliances. Other global leaders, friends and foes alike, view him as unreliable, unstable, and unworthy of respect.
2. Donald Trump has shown that he is unfit to lead during a national crisis. Instead of rallying the American people and the world to confront the coronavirus, Trump has spent the past half year spreading misinformation, undermining public health experts, attacking state and local officials, and wallowing in self-pity. He has demonstrated far greater concern about the fate of his reelection than the health of the American people.
3. Donald Trump has solicited foreign influence and undermined confidence in our presidential elections. Trump publicly asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to assist his 2016 campaign, called on Chinese president Xi Jinping to “start an investigation” into his current political opponent, and pressured the president of Ukraine to act against his opponent. Citing exaggerated claims of voter fraud, he has challenged the integrity of this year’s election, even suggesting that it be postponed.
4. Donald Trump has aligned himself with dictators and failed to stand up for American values. Trump has regularly praised the actions of dictators and human rights abusers. He proclaimed his “love” and “great respect” for North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un, endorsed “brilliant leader” Xi Jinping’s move to serve as China’s president for life, repeatedly sided with Vladimir Putin against our own intelligence community, and pronounced himself a “big fan” of Turkish president Recep Erdogan despite his crackdown on democracy.
5. Donald Trump has disparaged our armed forces, intelligence agencies, and diplomats. Trump has attacked Gold Star families, scoffed at American prisoners of war, interfered in the military justice system, and embroiled our military in domestic politics. He has ridiculed US intelligence agencies and falsely branded our nation’s diplomats as the “deep state.”
6. Donald Trump has undermined the rule of law. Trump has compromised the independence of the Department of Justice, repeatedly attacked federal judges, and punished government officials who have sought to uphold the law. To protect himself from accountability, he has fired officials who launched investigations or testified against him, threatened whistleblowers, dangled pardons as incentives to stay silent, and blocked prison time for a political crony convicted of lying on his behalf. He has impugned journalists investigating his misconduct and has repeatedly denounced the press as the “enemy of the people.”
7. Donald Trump has dishonored the office of the presidency. Trump engages in childish name-calling, mocks the disabled, belittles women, persistently lies, peddles baseless conspiracy theories, and continually embarrasses Americans in the eyes of the world.
8. Donald Trump has divided our nation and preached a dark and pessimistic view of America. Trump consistently seeks to incite political, racial, and ethnic divisions, weakening our nation and delighting our adversaries. In contrast to Reagan’s vision of America as a “shining city on a hill,” Trump speaks of “American carnage,” pits Americans against each other, and stokes fears that “angry mobs” and “anarchists” are destroying our country.
9. Donald Trump has attacked and vilified immigrants to our country. Trump routinely denigrates immigrants and inflames prejudices as he seeks support for his reelection. Despite America’s legacy as a nation of immigrants, he has demonized Americans who come from other countries, even telling members of Congress whose families immigrated to the United States to “go back” to the “crime-infested places” from which they came.
10. Donald Trump has imperiled America’s security by mismanaging his national security team. Trump has dismissed or replaced — often by tweet — the secretaries of State, Defense, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Directors of National Intelligence and the FBI, three National Security Advisors, and other senior officials in critical national security positions, many because they refused to cover for his misdeeds or demonstrate sufficient personal loyalty.

While we – like all Americans – had hoped that Donald Trump would govern wisely, he has disappointed millions of voters who put their faith in him and has demonstrated that he is dangerously unfit to serve another term.

In contrast, we believe Joe Biden has the character, experience, and temperament to lead this nation. We believe he will restore the dignity of the presidency, bring Americans together, reassert America’s role as a global leader, and inspire our nation to live up to its ideals.

While some of us hold policy positions that differ from those of Joe Biden and his party, the time to debate those policy differences will come later. For now, it is imperative that we stop Trump’s assault on our nation’s values and institutions and reinstate the moral foundations of our democracy.

To that end, we are firmly convinced that it is in the best interest of our nation that Vice President Joe Biden be elected as the next President of the United States, and we will vote for him.

 

 

https://www.defendingdemocracytogether.org/national-security/

You nor the article you listed state Joe Biden’s plan to better anyone’s life so @ApexerER was correct. So how is having old slow Joe Biden president going to better your life, is it the higher taxes, the removal of your constitutional rights or the fact that he has throughout his career voted against civil rights.  

[wolc123]

24 minutes ago, 9jNYstarkOH said:

You nor the article you listed state Joe Biden’s plan to better anyone’s life so @ApexerER was correct. So how is having old slow Joe Biden president going to better your life, is it the higher taxes, the removal of your constitutional rights or the fact that he has throughout his career voted against civil rights.  

 

[Steuben Jerry]

9 hours ago, Shoots100 said:

Biden doesn't have a snowballs chance

I want to be more confident of this, but I'm not because of Trumps A-hole factor.

[steve863]

11 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said:

I want to be more confident of this, but I'm not because of Trumps A-hole factor.

 

This election will be impossible to predict.  I could see it going either way.   Biden is ready for the sunshine home and Trump is a bumbling idiot.  All I know is that whoever wins or loses chaos will ensue after the election.  The Bush/Gore election in 2000 will be child's play compared to what will happen this time.

 

 

[ApexerER]

3 hours ago, 9jNYstarkOH said:

You nor the article you listed state Joe Biden’s plan to better anyone’s life so @ApexerER was correct. So how is having old slow Joe Biden president going to better your life, is it the higher taxes, the removal of your constitutional rights or the fact that he has throughout his career voted against civil rights.  

Yup, thats all you ever get..Trump is a douche......Which i happen to agree with.....But i can guarantee, unless you are looking for something for nothing...which is way to many people, you are better off with Trump as President. I don't care that he is a douche.....I agree with his policies....Other than paying people more on unemployment than they got when employed. That was a terrible decision.   

 

There are many reasons i will be voting for Trump again. But if you are questioning whether you should or not....ask yourself who BLM and Antifa will be voting for....If you want to vote with them....be my guest....

Edited September 18, 2020 by ApexerER

[ApexerER]

15 hours ago, BowmanMike said:

Biden would make my life better because i wouldn't have to read about trumps blunders or listen to him speak.

That alone deserves my vote.

I don't even know what to say about this......

[Versatile_Hunter]

2 hours ago, Steuben Jerry said:

I want to be more confident of this, but I'm not because of Trumps A-hole factor.

I’ve never heard of anyone rejecting Trump because he’s and ahole.  It’s his ineptitude and inability to rise to the challenge and grown into the job that make folks disqualify him.