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1 hour ago, NYBowhunter said:

Amen brother, too many people worry what others do. Same concept as the nosey neighbor that can't seem to mind thier own damn business.

The neighbor wondering what I have in my tree stand with me..

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Just a reminder to all you younger bow hunters, you won't be young forever. And there will come a time for most of you, when drawing your bow will become difficult. But your drive to be out in the dee

That is certainly a lot of assumptions there. Lazy? Uneducated? Unethical? Wounding deer? Not looking for the wounded deer?  The vast majority of crossbow hunters are "ALSO" bowhunters!! I just n

I'm really amazed by the level of arrogance in this post and the choices of inflammatory words and generalizations in some passages.  For the elitist, I got news for you your dump smells just as bad a

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15 minutes ago, Belo said:

So here's the rub sir. It's not legal to hunt with a crossbow the first few weeks a year, so why do yall care what us bowhunters are doing? It's legal.

Yet here we have a thread and a coalition trying to change what is legal. Do you see what I did there? Do you not see the irony in your statement?

So.....why do you care if someone wants to hunt with a crossbow Oct. 1st??? Won't effect what YOU do, right???

 

The coalition is looking to change the law, to accept changes. Just like what was done when compound bows were deemed legal, alongside traditional bows. Quite simply, the argument is the same.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Belo said:

~15 in the ~15 years I've used a bow. 2 years ago with my brand new Matthews (2nd bow I've ever owned) was the first time I wounded (not lethally) a doe. Go figure.

Doesn't sound that challenging to me.

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1 hour ago, Steuben Jerry said:

The neighbor wondering what I have in my tree stand with me..

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so why is she looking into the window and not out??hmmm   i think there is more to the story your not telling us.....

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1 hour ago, grampy said:

So.....why do you care if someone wants to hunt with a crossbow Oct. 1st??? Won't effect what YOU do, right???

 

The coalition is looking to change the law, to accept changes. Just like what was done when compound bows were deemed legal, alongside traditional bows. Quite simply, the argument is the same.

 

 

The belong in gun season with the other shoulder fired implements. 

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1 hour ago, grampy said:

So.....why do you care if someone wants to hunt with a crossbow Oct. 1st??? Won't effect what YOU do, right???

 

The coalition is looking to change the law, to accept changes. Just like what was done when compound bows were deemed legal, alongside traditional bows. Quite simply, the argument is the same.

 

 

Who cares what I hunt with as long as it's legal?

Such a shitty response isn't it? A guy has hunted for a year or 2 with a compound and makes a comment like that... misses the point entirely. 

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6 minutes ago, Belo said:

Who cares what I hunt with as long as it's legal?

My point exactly!!! Thank You!

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4 hours ago, Belo said:

I'll add this one separate and because Fred says it better than I ever will.

“Here we have a weapon of beauty and romance. He who shoots with a bow, puts his life’s energy into it. The force behind the flying shaft must be placed there by the archer. At the moment of greatest strain he must draw every sinew to the utmost; his hand must be steady; his nerves under absolute control; his eye keen and clear. In the hunt he pits his well-trained skill against the instinctive cunning of his quarry. By the most adroit cleverness, he must approach within striking distance, and when he speeds his low whispering shaft and strikes his game, he has won by the strength of arm and nerve. It is a noble sport.”

What a crock of Dung

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15 minutes ago, Gobbler Chaser said:

What a crock of Dung

A matter of opinion, I for one agree with Fred's whole statement.

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I personally have nothing against crossbows but have no desire whatsoever to hunt with one. I would think that any of us that bow and gun hunt would would admit there is a significant difference between the two seasons.

My biggest issue is ones that have never hunted during bow season suddenly being able to hunt the bow season with a crossbow bringing more hunters into the woods.  I like bow season because I see a lot less hunters and the deer are  not as pressured because of that reason.

Another issue for me are the ones like my brother in law that doesn't want to put the time in practicing and getting prepared for bow season with a compound. He wants crossbow to pass just for that reason. For him it is easier and a lot less effort.

Should a "gun" hunter be allowed to hunt during "bow" season with a crossbow??  Not for me to decide. I still think we should all be issued so many tags, have the season run the length  the DEC wants it to;  and be able to fill those tags any time during the open season with the legal weapon of one's choice.

If I was able to make a harvest in Oct. with a rife, one in Nov. with a pistol, and one in Dec. with a bow who would it hurt? If I filled all three of my tags in Oct., Nov., or Dec., what's the difference? Deer season is deer season...who cares what you harvest them with or when they are harvested?

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So here's the rub sir. It's not legal to hunt with a crossbow the first few weeks a year, so why do yall care what us bowhunters are doing? It's legal.
Yet here we have a thread and a coalition trying to change what is legal. Do you see what I did there? Do you not see the irony in your statement?


Right. But if it becomes legal, life goes on like it did in every other state.


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22 hours ago, grampy said:

My point exactly!!! Thank You!

so if it isn't legal, leave it alone eh?

21 hours ago, Gobbler Chaser said:

What a crock of Dung

Hell of a contribution and rebuttal. The godfather of modern archery eloquently explains the sport and that's your response? Once again I'm here asking for a reason other than disability and support of manufacturers exactly WHY we should allow crossbows. All I ever hear is why my reasons for not allowing them aren't ok.

21 hours ago, Gobbler Chaser said:

I agree too. I was directing my statement at the guy quoting it.

so come at me bro. 

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17 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 


Right. But if it becomes legal, life goes on like it did in every other state.


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sure and I've said that if and when it happens it wont be any sweat off my balls, but until then I can voice my opposition to it. Your "so long as its legal, who cares" confuses me. It's not legal and vertical bows are. So why does it bother you? We will continue to have a growing archery season like we have had forever and life goes on.

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20 hours ago, Steve D said:

I personally have nothing against crossbows but have no desire whatsoever to hunt with one. I would think that any of us that bow and gun hunt would would admit there is a significant difference between the two seasons.

My biggest issue is ones that have never hunted during bow season suddenly being able to hunt the bow season with a crossbow bringing more hunters into the woods.  I like bow season because I see a lot less hunters and the deer are  not as pressured because of that reason.

Another issue for me are the ones like my brother in law that doesn't want to put the time in practicing and getting prepared for bow season with a compound. He wants crossbow to pass just for that reason. For him it is easier and a lot less effort.

Should a "gun" hunter be allowed to hunt during "bow" season with a crossbow??  Not for me to decide. I still think we should all be issued so many tags, have the season run the length  the DEC wants it to;  and be able to fill those tags any time during the open season with the legal weapon of one's choice.

If I was able to make a harvest in Oct. with a rife, one in Nov. with a pistol, and one in Dec. with a bow who would it hurt? If I filled all three of my tags in Oct., Nov., or Dec., what's the difference? Deer season is deer season...who cares what you harvest them with or when they are harvested?

i wish I could fill both buck tags with archery. I think the argument is that we would then be shooting "their deer" and by their I mean gun hunters. They're already pissed as it is that we have the rut and have already eroded the season by getting the last archery weekend and a youth weekend in exchange for 2 mosquito weeks.

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2 hours ago, Belo said:

I think the argument is that we would then be shooting "their deer" and by their I mean gun hunters.

The way the seasons are right now I can understand how they would feel that way. As it is now a lot of gun hunters are mad because some of the real nice bucks are taken during bow.  Just because they choose to gun hunt instead of bow for whatever reason they should not be denied the opportunity to shoot a nice buck.

 On the other hand If I was trying to get in bow range of a nice buck and someone shot it with a rifle 100 yds. away I would be irritated to. No "easy" solution.

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3 hours ago, Belo said:

sure and I've said that if and when it happens it wont be any sweat off my balls, but until then I can voice my opposition to it. Your "so long as its legal, who cares" confuses me. It's not legal and vertical bows are. So why does it bother you? We will continue to have a growing archery season like we have had forever and life goes on.

I mostly stay out of threads. It's a pointless debate after everyone says the same things for 7 years was my point.

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15 hours ago, Steve D said:

The way the seasons are right now I can understand how they would feel that way. As it is now a lot of gun hunters are mad because some of the real nice bucks are taken during bow.  Just because they choose to gun hunt instead of bow for whatever reason they should not be denied the opportunity to shoot a nice buck.

 On the other hand If I was trying to get in bow range of a nice buck and someone shot it with a rifle 100 yds. away I would be irritated to. No "easy" solution.

I agree with you 100% there is no easy solution other than to get off your ass and learn to archery hunt. It's not a whole lot different than the guy who is a hardcore fisherman than the one who casually fishes a few weekends a year. You get out of life what you put into it.

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