reeltime Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.whec.com/news/coyote-hunter-accidentally-sweden-shooting/4405328/?cat=565 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 How does that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 My sons and I get crop damage permits and can shoot deer until 11pm . We quit before it gets dark. We don't take any chances of an accident . Coyote hunting is 24 hours a day and lights are allowed . I wouldn't care to be shooting in the dark . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Could that report have been a bit more vague........... Edited February 21, 2017 by growalot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 For the few times I've gone out at night with kill lights, I've always been concerned with properly identifying the target. I'd hate to kill a neighbor's dog that got loose instead of a yote. You can't just shoot at eyes, that's ridiculous. Always positively ID the target. Prayers for the victim! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Curmudgeon said: How does that happen? Shear stupidity as usual...Victim was out shed hunting at 6:30??? Shooter not identifying his target. Just like last year when two horses were shot by coyote hunters during a contest that just happened to be jail deputies. If you can't identify a man or a horse from a coyote or fox you have no business taking the shot. That's what happens when you shoot at reflections or eyes. Couldn't tell you how many times I have had domestic dogs come in while calling. Imagine the repercussions from that if a shot is taken. Both deputies were prosecuted and had to make restitution to the landowners. Another thing that worry's me is the use of centerfires at night. As we all know they travel farther than a rimfire and are a lot more lethal. I only use a rimfire or shotgun at night and save the center fire for day time use. Maybe if they went back to the rimfire rule you would see a lot less predator hunters that don't have a clue what they are doing. Just one opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said: For the few times I've gone out at night with kill lights, I've always been concerned with properly identifying the target. I'd hate to kill a neighbor's dog that got loose instead of a yote. You can't just shoot at eyes, that's ridiculous. Always positively ID the target. Prayers for the victim! Well said Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I swear that wasn't the same article I read earlier...Anyways Gods speed to the shooting victim. That said, this should prove interesting...Of course never shoot and eyes! Don't coyote eyes have a color to them? The ones I've shined did...I can't say I would come right out and say I was shooting at what looked like eyes...Who's to say it wasn't a yote and he missed hitting the shed hunter. Now unless the article changes again...Didn't I read he was hunting on his own land? How many of you shed hunters go out on your property or public land to shed hunt at night with a flash light?... Yes I think he needs to find a good lawyer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The coyote hunters were on their own land . Not an excuse just clearing that up . Its light till about 6:15, so the shed Hunter most likely quit around then and was heading out . Glad the hunter was charged . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, growalot said: Don't coyote eyes have a color to them? Most hunters are hunting with a red or green light to reflect the eyes. Unfortunately all eyes reflect. Deer, domestic dogs, coon, etc. will give you a red or green reflection. Once eyes are picked up in the light your next step HAS TO BE to identify what it is. This time of year is especially important since fox season is closed and a fox may still come in to the call You have to be able to differentiate between a fox & coyote and if you can't you shouldn't be out there Quote Didn't I read he was hunting on his own land? The way I read it the shooter & father were on their land and it wasn't clear about the victim. Either way...No excuse unless like you say he missed a coyote and hit the victim accidently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I don't recall seeing anything about it being night in the first version of the article. I see it now. There is no excuse, but I have never seen human eyes shine like a deer or dog. Edited February 21, 2017 by Curmudgeon Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rack Attack Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Not defending the shooter as I totally agree that they needed to identify their target, however the "shed hunter" should receive a trespassing ticket as well assuming that the land was posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 How do you know he was a shed hunter? Hown do you know the land was posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E J Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I went out for the first time night hunting coyotes with a buddy this winter. I was super cautious about just seeing eye reflection. I had a deer come out of the bush's that I figured for sure was a coyote coming into the calling but I just waited because I couldn't ID it for sure until about five minutes later when it got to the field. Boy was I glad I knew better than to shoot at the reflection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The father is the one that was charged. They were on someone else's property, they live up the other road. It's sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I just read an update that the victim pulled through surgery and is expected to recover. Still in guarded condition though. Edited February 21, 2017 by Steuben Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Thanks Paula, it sure sounded like they were on there own land . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I hate this shit period,no matter who is doing what,the person who fires the shot is to blame 1000% sorry if that sounds harsh.....this shit just burns my butt......... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 There is always one that ruins for everybody... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 i have everything to hunt yotes at night ,but don't for fear of calling in another hunter or a pet dog,also a little worried about a slip and fall by myself.i played around with the light at night the deer took off when i had the green light on.didn't bother the coons or porcupine.they all stayed around when i had the red light on. hope the guy comes through ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 One of the first things you learn in the hunter education classes, BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET, and what is beyond it! If every person hunting, followed this one rule, there would be very little in the way of hunting 'incidents'. I didn't say 'accidents', because I don't believe they are 'accidents'. They are the direct result of someone, not following the basic rules of firearm safty! Hope the man shot makes a full recovery. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Like Fast Eddie, I have had nuisance permits for deer. In fact, deer are the only thing I ever hunted at night. I went out with an LED light and lots of eyes lit up. However, all I could see was eyes. I went back home without shooting anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Tough situation for all. In my experience, it's all about the ID before you shoot. Could be a kitty cat, neighbor's dog, out of season Fox etc. Even on my own land nothing changes. Every light manufacturer states average "ID range " on lights.... This is poor hunting, but I also sympathize with shooter since he must feel like a real Ahole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Incident not accident. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Update on the guy who was shot. Poor guy's life is forever changed. http://13wham.com/news/local/man-shot-by-coyote-hunter-had-kidney-spleen-removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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