grampy Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 2:19 PM, Belo said: the surgical masks yes. they do nothing. The N95's do provide protection so long as they're properly fitted. Expand I went to a Drs. appointment this morning. Walking into and through, the medical arts building, I saw no less than half a dozen people wearing surgical masks. Never saw that before. And as always, I made a point to use the available hand sanitizer, after touching anything. Even the elevator buttons. I've done this for years though. Too many sick people in medical buildings!....Ha! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 Interesting read here about hand sanitizers being a bad thing. Also interesting quote in there stating most people get flu from inhaling, not touching something. https://www.gq.com/story/the-case-against-hand-sanitizer Another here stating hand sanitizer not as effective as thought for Flu strain A. http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/09/hand-sanitizer-shown-less-effective-hand-washing-against-flu One could wonder how many people are using this correctly and if in fact its creating more issues than resolving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelwhisperer Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 4:49 PM, Al Bundy said: Interesting read here about hand sanitizers being a bad thing. Also interesting quote in there stating most people get flu from inhaling, not touching something. https://www.gq.com/story/the-case-against-hand-sanitizer Another here stating hand sanitizer not as effective as thought for Flu strain A. http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/09/hand-sanitizer-shown-less-effective-hand-washing-against-flu One could wonder how many people are using this correctly and if in fact its creating more issues than resolving. Expand Sry Al, can't read this at work. will check out ltr. My understanding is that we need certain bacteria on/in us to maintain health and immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 3:27 PM, Elmo said: Sucks for anyone who has a beard. Expand actually it doesn't suck... and that's the problem haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Masks of either kind are not very effective at protecting you from picking up the virus. The virus spreads by droplet. So, unless you're getting very close to an infected person who's coughing or sneezing in your face, the mask is useless. The bug is picked up mostly from touching an infected surface. That's why hand washing is taught as the best method of avoiding the virus. Masks are more effective in preventing an infected person from spreading the virus because the mask stops the spray from the cough or sneeze. In hospital settings like where I work, anyone who has potentially been exposed to an infected person is asked to wear a mask for three days to prevent possibly spreading the bug during the incubation period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 3:58 PM, grampy said: I went to a Drs. appointment this morning. Walking into and through, the medical arts building, I saw no less than half a dozen people wearing surgical masks. Never saw that before. And as always, I made a point to use the available hand sanitizer, after touching anything. Even the elevator buttons. I've done this for years though. Too many sick people in medical buildings!....Ha!You TOUCH elevator buttons?!?!? No F’in way...they are right up there with doorknobs in public bathrooms. HOT water and soap onlySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Another reason for me to become a hermit/ mountain man once I win the lotto. And I just need like second place. I'm not greedy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelwhisperer Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 9:11 PM, crappyice said: You TOUCH elevator buttons?!?!? No F’in way...they are right up there with doorknobs in public bathrooms. HOT water and soap only Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Touch em?!? I lick em!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 9:42 PM, squirrelwhisperer said: Touch em?!? I lick em!!Listen. I respect your training in China in the martial arts. However there is nothing that can be learned there to fight off the filth of the common man off elevator buttons or bathroom doors. I hate handling money for the same reason. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelwhisperer Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 10:36 PM, crappyice said: Listen. I respect your training in China in the martial arts. However there is nothing that can be learned there to fight off the filth of the common man off elevator buttons or bathroom doors. I hate handling money for the same reason. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt was a failed attempt at humorSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 10:36 PM, crappyice said: Listen. I respect your training in China in the martial arts. However there is nothing that can be learned there to fight off the filth of the common man off elevator buttons or bathroom doors. I hate handling money for the same reason. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand His white cells and helper T cells are actually in the process of kung fu fighting as we speak so ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 9:42 PM, squirrelwhisperer said: Touch em?!? I lick em!! Expand I like it ,not enough people willing to go the extra mile when choosing a floor . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 12:08 AM, squirrelwhisperer said: It was a failed attempt at humorSent from my iPhone using TapatalkAs was that my attempt at humor! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 So........if 40,000 people diagnosed with virus and 1,000 reported to have died from it. A 1/40 ratio doesn't seem good. Or something is off with the numbers reported..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanD Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Seasonal flu kills on average 12,000-30,000 in any given year in the US alone. The fatality rate from this new virus is higher than the seasonal flu, but it still feels like it's being over-hyped by the media. If we were talking about MERS where the fatality rate is 30%+, that's a different situation (IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 5:13 PM, Robhuntandfish said: So........if 40,000 people diagnosed with virus and 1,000 reported to have died from it. A 1/40 ratio doesn't seem good. Or something is off with the numbers reported..... Expand Are you insinuating that the Chinese government isn't a reliable reporting source? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 5:50 PM, Splitear_Leland said: Are you insinuating that the Chinese government isn't a reliable reporting source? Expand Or just terrible in math Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Bring Back Ebola!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg54 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 7:13 PM, Biz-R-OWorld said: Bring Back Ebola! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 5:41 PM, DanD said: Seasonal flu kills on average 12,000-30,000 in any given year in the US alone. The fatality rate from this new virus is higher than the seasonal flu, but it still feels like it's being over-hyped by the media. If we were talking about MERS where the fatality rate is 30%+, that's a different situation (IMO). Expand that is def possible cause it seems everything these days is over hyped. But the numbers say its 5X as fatal as contracting the flu? But far more widespread than MERS... I dunno - just saw the numbers on the news and thought it didnt seem good. But i was terrible at math too! All i know is i dont want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Account Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 7:13 PM, Biz-R-OWorld said: Bring Back Ebola! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand No joke, when the Ebola pandemic hit, I was in the process of organizing a "Bowl-a-Thon" fundraiser for 4-H. It was hard to explain that it as "A Bowl-a-Thon" and not "Ebola-Thon". 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Both my kids had the flu. Both my nieces. My dad. All since recovered. I know no one who even knows someone how has the coronavirus. The moment I hear someone tell me, "Yo, you remember Bob, who use to work at Bills? I heard his cousin's friend's co-worker, Betsy got the coronavirus."...then I'll worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpStateRedNeck Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I know the post is a rag, but this is a little disturbing : https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Here's the thing. Even if it ends up just being a lot like the flu, it's in addition to the flu. So if thousands die from the regular flu them add this as well it's another thing. Plus if China is closing everything down for production and 80per our medicine comes from china.we can have a real glut in those and many other products. And if you think that once it's gone we will just get double the amount , the production time has already passed and can only still produce so much. Then it drives up demand and therefore price etc. Hoping and thinking this probably just fizzles out and all is good but there is potential for worry here. Thus reflected in the recent market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Anyone watching the market today....yikes. just room to grow right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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