Buckmaster7600 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I had some buddies over for the annual pattern testing/confirming this morning. Every one of my buddies wanted to shoot my 20ga’s. They all couldn’t believe how much lighter they were and how little they kicked. All but 1 “a 10ga guy” said he was going to start looking for a 20 for next year. I guess I was a little ahead of the curve on this because all but 1 of my turkeys in the last 10/11 years have been killed with a 20ga. I’m sure most just use what they have and what they’re comfortable with but for anyone that’s looking for a new turkey gun seriously consider going to a 20ga. Unless you want to shoot them at 60 or 70 yards you aren’t loosing anything but a ton of recoil and a couple pounds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Recoil, on one shot? Weight? Ha...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I still use a single ga NEF 12g and mossberg 835 12ga. I'm always looking for a single gauge 20 NEF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Super Black Eagle, sans the sling (not real heavy) and three shells. What’s your 20ga weigh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'd seriously consider a 20g for turkeys, but I have a Remington 1187 NWTF 12g. Don't hunt anything else with a scatter gun, so I really don't have a need for another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 My 20 ga. don't pattern right, fact it never did out of the box, no matter what shell or choke I use. I like the weight of the 12 ga. anyways , as it feels like I have a real weapon in my mitts. It"s pattern is perfect for my liking. I figure the more shot coming out of the barrel, the better chance I have of holding up a bird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 In my opinion, patterns can be much to tight. Your super tight shot pattern at 40 yards sucks at 20 yards, easily shooting over or beside a gobbler. You don’t need 50 pellets in the cranium..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I use a 12ga. it's like "lawdwaz" said one shot if you wait for it.I've never had an issue with the weight of any gun.There's a few guys over at old gobbler that use a 410 ga. shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubborn1VT Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I shoot a 12 gauge. Never really considered my 870 heavy. It fits me better than the 835 I had before, and I never had any use for 3.5" loads. It may be in my head, but I wouldn't feel confident in a 20 gauge beyond 30ish yards. Then again, I don't shoot over 40 yards with my 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I currently have a 12 guage for my bird hunting. With hevi shot and tss, a 20 guage really is all you need for turkey. Hell even a .410 will do the job out to 40 with tss. Maybe in a few years ill buy a 20 guage for turkey hunting, but for now ill turn my current 12 into a dedicated turkey gun once I get a semi auto shotgun for duck hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I shoot 10 and two 12's for turkey. It's an interesting, yet short sighted argument. Guys like to say with modern x-y-z (add the shell tech of your choice) you don't need 10ga, or you don't need 3.5" shells, or 3" shells, or even a 12 ga. As if SOMEHOW the advances in tech only applies to 2 3/4" shells, or 20ga or even 410. If you have 2 feet of string and you tie it to 2 feet of string, get 4 feet of string. But if you start off with 6 feet of string, and add 2 feet of string..... But then I pattern two of my turkey guns at 55 yards. Why? Because I can. Heck, just about anything throws a usable pattern at 30 yards. Do I want to shoot birds at 55 yards and beyond? No, but it's nice to know that I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 So what does your 20ga weigh BM7600?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'm not hung up on weight. I deer hunt with a sub 6lb rifle... and many others that range in weight up to about 13-14 lbs. And always carry a handgun. I also carry 8-10 lbs of crap in a pack with me everywhere I go. And probably 30-60 lbs extra on me. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I have a 12g but the only time I have fired it is to pattern it. Didn’t seem that bad. Maybe this is the year I actually shoot at a bird. Lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 hours ago, blackbeltbill said: Looking forward to Tomorrow with my light 20 Gauge. Worth every penny. Hopefully some Birds will be Vocal early! Good luck, Bill !! If it weren't for the damned virus I'd be hunting in Ontario on the 25th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Have 10ga and 12 ga, my favorite by far is my jugged choked 825 mossberg with 3.5 in shells. Weight is fine , kicks harder in ft lbs more than any other gun or rifle out there ,but never feel it while shooting at a bird. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 Super Black Eagle, sans the sling (not real heavy) and three shells. What’s your 20ga weigh? 5lbs 3OZ with a red dot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 In my opinion, patterns can be much to tight. Your super tight shot pattern at 40 yards sucks at 20 yards, easily shooting over or beside a gobbler. You don’t need 50 pellets in the cranium.....I completely agree! My run and gun setup I use a improved modified choke in and use 2 3/4” high brass 6’s because my shots are usually very close and I’ve missed more than my share at under 5yds!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 I shoot 10 and two 12's for turkey. It's an interesting, yet short sighted argument. Guys like to say with modern x-y-z (add the shell tech of your choice) you don't need 10ga, or you don't need 3.5" shells, or 3" shells, or even a 12 ga. As if SOMEHOW the advances in tech only applies to 2 3/4" shells, or 20ga or even 410. If you have 2 feet of string and you tie it to 2 feet of string, get 4 feet of string. But if you start off with 6 feet of string, and add 2 feet of string..... But then I pattern two of my turkey guns at 55 yards. Why? Because I can. Heck, just about anything throws a usable pattern at 30 yards. Do I want to shoot birds at 55 yards and beyond? No, but it's nice to know that I can. I absolutely agree that a 12 or a 10 has become more effective at longer ranges, that’s not arguable. 70yds is the new 50yds with the new technology. Those improvements are something I don’t need or have a use for. I don’t like heavy guns and I don’t like recoil. I have never fired a first shot a turkey at over 30yds and don’t have any intentions to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 20ga became the "in thing" in late 90s when rob keck started shoving them on every tv show and every nwtf banquet, he even went down to a 28 gauge but thankfully that never caught on. Banquets for various organizations is what fuels the gun " in thing" rage. The most recent is the 6.5 creedmore that had been around for decades but no one heard of or used.. enter tv and advertising, product usage and banquets. And everyone needs a 6 5 creedmore. Imo yse a gun you have patterned and are confident in and with extra tight chokes do yourself a favor and put a good optic on it close shots and 6 in patterns lead to misses with out it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 12 G mossberg 835 with turkey choke - shoot federal #5 turkey loads. No scope but fiber optic sight. Last year took a turkey at 8 yards. Havent shot at a turkey with it over 30 yards yet. Edited April 20, 2020 by Robhuntandfish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Juice Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I’m still using my early 1990s 11-87 3” 12-g in mossy oak green leaf. This photo is from 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dr Juice said: I’m still using my early 1990s 11-87 3” 12-g in mossy oak green leaf. This photo is from 2019. Cool, Doc....That makes three of us on the forum who use the exact same gun , right down to the barrel length and camo pattern....You, me and Mowin'..... OOOPS, my bad.....Mowin' and I both have trebark camo....Same barrel length and vintage, though..Early 90s and 21" bbl.... Edited April 20, 2020 by Pygmy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Ive got two 12ga Im setting up for turkey, an 11-87 with a scope and a Winchester SX3 without for rainy days. Shooting XR 3.5" #5s that kick like nothing Ive experienced so patterning is zero fun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2012_taco Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I have a Remington 870 ulti mag 12 ga., can use up to 3.5" shells. I use 3" Winchester LR #5 iirc? I don't need the extra kick of the 3.5". It patterns very good out to 40, I'm sure it's good to 50 but, I hope to never find out! My buddy says the rage in the NWTF world is going to 410 ga with the TSS shot. I believe G-Man is correct with the NWTF bringing in new ideas/trends to the banquets to create a bidding frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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