Steuben Jerry Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Looks like mites or something? Do deer get mange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Don't know... Yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 It looks like an older doe in decline. The average lifespan of a doe in the wild is 6 years or so. The first photo shows some sag in the spine, which makes me think she's getting up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Be easier to skin! I've never seen one like that myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 She might have a parasite or a touch of the mange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanfarmer Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Send pics to Dr.Grant Woods. My guess is mange 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 another shot in the dark vote for mange. not sure that is common with deer though. also, like humans, it could just be a skin disorder/condition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 The heartbreak of psoriasis......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moho81 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 She actually went to the barber to get a horrible shave on purpose. It’s her defense strategy so we don’t shoot her for fear of something wrong with her meat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Im going to go with winter coat growing in and summer coat shed, she looks fine otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 I watched her through the binoculars last evening and there doesn’t seem to be anything different about her behavior. She was with two other does and three fawns. Just browsing around. When they moved on she was kind of in the lead. I sent the pics to a DEC biologist and received the following reply; Hi Jerry, Demodectic (or other) mange could be a possible culprit, but we do not see many mangey deer submitted for necropsy….maybe one every three years or so. Another, more common, potential cause could be dermatophilosis a bacterial infection of the skin that prefers warm moist weather and can cause hair loss and crusty skin lesions, I do not see any definitive crusty lesions in these photos though. We see a few cases of dermatophilosis every year; in adult deer the infection is often self-limiting and eventually resolves but it is often fatal for small fawns. Other possibilities include molting anomalies (caused by any number of conditions that we have a hard time elucidating), lice, dietary deficiencies, or genetics. Bald patches can also occur from trauma; “road rash”, fences, or over-grooming. It appears most of the summer guard hairs are missing where she can easily reach with her mouth. It seems very early for molting into winter hair, but that is a possibility. I would suggest keeping an eye on her to see what develops over the next few weeks. She appears to be in decent body condition. What Town are you in? Thank you for the report and your concern. If you get some more photos please feel free to send it to me. Thanks -Kevin Kevin Hynes Wildlife Health Unit, Division of Fish and Wildlife New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Wildlife Resources Center 108 Game Farm Road Delmar, NY 12054 P: (518) 478-3034 | F: (518) 478-3035 | [email protected] www.dec.ny.gov | | | 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Geez,you guys dont know about aging and going grey? What a lucky bunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I'm thinking we just chalk this one up to covid and not wearing a mask.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, G-Man said: I'm thinking we just chalk this one up to covid and not wearing a mask.... You didn’t understand a bit of what the biologist said either?!?!?!?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, BowmanMike said: Geez,you guys dont know about aging and going grey? What a lucky bunch. Haha - I'm losing my hair too! Maybe I'm just molting! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 So I replied to that email and sent him a pic of that bear I posted on the other thread (reposted here). He answered quickly and was pretty certain of the cause. @G-Man called it. Hi Jerry, The bear hair loss is most likely due to sarcoptic mange. We have seen a marked increase in bear mange over the last 10-15 years, PA is seeing similar cases. This is the same mite that is common in red fox (where it is usually fatal). The jury is out on whether of not bears can recover from infection, I think I have seen some resolved cases but I can’t prove it. There are multiple studies underway assessing the epidemiology and impact of mange in black bears in the northeast. Thanks for sharing the photo. -Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Clearly the bear and doe are NOT social distancing. What are the chances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 CWD and Blue Tongue are next. Jerry's high fence operation will be shutdown by halloween! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Biz-R-OWorld said: CWD and Blue Tongue are next. Jerry's high fence operation will be shutdown by halloween! My high fence operation didn't work out. They all busted out.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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