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Your wrong, they live on my land, eat my vegetation, drink from my swamps, eat MY shrubs, eat MY lawn, sleep on my property, crap on my property, die on my property from natural causes and massive blood loss, have sex and reproduce on my property, So Yea they are my freakin deer.

You seriously need to learn about bullet selection. Stop using those .243 55 grain varmint bullets on bear!! :-) Zhe Wiz

The so called rifling on a rifled slug is to make it easier for the slug to go though different size chokes a long with the hollow base. The rifling put little to no spin on the slug. What stabilizes the slug is its weight forward design most of the weight is up front. You can shoot rifled slug though a rifled barrel Brenneke makes some slugs like there Black Magic and there Green Lighting. You can also shoot Remington or Winchesters the worst that's going to happen is you're going to have to spend a lot of time with a wire brush and hoppes to clean the lead out of the barrel.

Good winters, bad winters, starving deer, healthy deer... somehow the deer still survive and thrive... I wouldn't be terribly concerned about their survival... they have a pretty good track record of getting through this stuff. If you're that concerned start planting more browse type plants on your property that they can feed on naturally during the harsher winters.

There doesn't seem to be any shortage of chow out there for them this winter in my area, but I know how that can differ from one town to the next. Check out this link that talks about how Minnesotas DNR has special funds set aside for emergency feeding programs.and how they decide when it's time to step in. http://www.realtree.com/realtree-outdoor-news/minnesota-dnr-oks-feeding-deer-herds-hit-hard-by-old-man-winter

Sad but remember NY is open for business

Glad you got what you were looking for. Happy,Happy,Happy..Just like the herd!

Nothing wrong with just having a gun just to go to the range with and shoot. I have guns that I don't hunt with. They're purely just for fun. Just want to clarify the true purpose. Some people like to hunt, some like to shoot. Nothing wrong with either one of them.

Just a suggestion from someone who has booked hunts off forum offers...... List your full contact info; address, company name, license number, web site (if you have one). I would NEVER book a hunt with someone who doesn't list a real address for their business, and po boxes don't cut it. (on many forums thats a hard and fast rule or you get deleted) Method of take; baiting,bow,gun,spear,knife,night spot lighting, daytime, chinese throwing stars......give an idea on how a typical hunter goes about your hunt. I see you posted this on a Michigan forum also today.....we're just a bunch of yankees and you're selling an out of the ordinary species for most; so how about some details of how this unfolds as a hunt. Put up some pics of what is RECENT average, every outfitter wants to show off the "big one" they shot 10 years ago, but that really doesn't put out what is realistic. Post some prices and what that includes and doesn't; like cost of an out of state license for a hunter, lodging(even if that is a nearby hotel). If you can't list a price in public, whats the difference if I call you and get one? Either way I'm looking to compare for the average in the industry for the same hunt one way or the other......so sell yourself a little on what I'm getting for the $$$. Just my thoughts.

NYC seems to have the same problem like Paris (I've lived in Paris, but I've only visited New York City). I've noticed a lot of similar trends. Almost nobody is from the city itself, everybody is either born somewhere else and has moved to NYC, or is there just for education/art school/finding one's inner self/work. Because of so much tourists and immigration, the prices are constantly rising. The city is dirty. Something that is cheap for NYC, is actually unbelievably expensive for other parts of the USA (hotels, restaurants, almost every kind of deal). Both cities are like an air balloon, which is being pumped up and would blow up any moment.

I have an up right,size? Idk it looks to be about 2/3 the size of a normal refrigerator .right now it has1 deer and two turkey in it plus other foods. Most years it holds 2 deer plus. I got this one from my parents house so size was not a choice . Like gun safes,tents and the like, I'd say go bigger then you think you'll need.

Agreed. It is sad and I get it. Found a dead frozen fawn yesterday with no visible wounds. However a lot of areas are overpopulated as a result partly to some pretty mild winters. We just have to remember that nature will do its thing. The healthy and string will survive. The weak and sick will not. Natural selection Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The best you can do to protest this state is to move your business. Most of us don't own a business, so we vote. As we all know the letters and voting do little. The only option left is to move. The state won't feel any of leaving. Even a millionaire has little affect on an exit. It has to be large business. When they leave it affects thousands and is bad press. But like some mentioned there are still many good high paying white collar jobs. The majority are downstate. This is why the state is unbalanced geographically but continues to get by. I have nothing against the city and the island. It's not my style of living but I respect that it is for many. What sucks are that the economics and politics do not align with upstate, where we would be more inline with Ohio or Pennsylvania. I guess however the shrinking population has been noticed by some and that job loss is becoming an issue as we are no doubt spending millions on the add campaign. And sits... Even the worst places on earth have their percentage of people doing well while many more suffer... Wow that last sentence was as about as liberal as I ever want to sound Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Coumo's "Big Line Of Bull." People that vote for the guy like to be lied too. They eat it up! I applaud Governor Bentley of Alabama, standing up for the 2nd Amendment and for the "People" of his fine state!

Yeah but they said they will be downsizing. Sad part is those new 2k something jobs could have been new jobs for unemployed New Yorkers. So while there might not be a huge loss of current jobs, the loss of potential jobs is huge. You have to really laugh at these commercials inviting businesses to NY. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Driving your quad or anything that will break up the frozen snow in areas with food will help. Planting for winter feed is key in harsh winters. Hinge cutting as mentioned before is a great thing. They are amazing survivors. Winter survival is another reason I find deer so fascinating, like Joe said they are true survivors.

In some places im sure there are 365 days, wide open on anything that can kill a fawn! I'm pretty sure of a couple. When mature bear kills out number mature deer kills on property that has been in the same hands for years, always have had great deer herds with very few bear sightings and now be hard pressed to find fawns in summer even while putting up hay. Something needs to be done. It Is!

Just not the gun business, religion, or Conservatives.

I started shooting rifled slugs through a rifled barrel over 20 years ago with my 12 ga Winchester 1200 . Never had a problem taking deer with it . My longest take was just over 100 yards . Never had a problem with any lead build-up as my mother gave me something to counter act that ...... a jar of elbow grease !

Yea screw the businesses that are here & give new business a 10 yr. tax break that will leave in 9 yrs!

Very true. For got where I read it but the top factors in determine lethality ranked in order: 1. Shot placement. 2. Bullet type selection. 3. Caliber. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

257 Weatherby magnum. Figured I would save him the typing. Lol

I'm not sure what the situation with .243 ammo is, but finding ammo for it has not been as easy as 30-06 and .308 in my area. I did order a bunch online, when it was still legal to do so. Bullets weigh from 55 grains all the way to 107 or so. That's pretty versatile IMO. IMO, the .243 is a very capable round for NYS, even for bear. Those that state otherwise, well, you keep shooting those 30-06's and 300 wm X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems

Just finished cleaning up 20" of new snow on a property I look after when on the way out of the long driveway I find this next to the mail box.Almost ran it over.I can see where he walked last night out of the deep snow and traveled the town road to the driveway.This ones fresh. All those years of beaten the bush and long walks coming up empty and then this happens. This was one of our bigger deer,my biggest shed to date.Have to look for its match when the snow goes down.

First there not your deer. I hate when someone uses the word my when talking about deer they don’t belong to you unless you have them penned up like cattle. As long as there is 15ins or less of snow pack on the ground and the habitat is good they will be fine. If there is more than 15ins of snow pack they have about 3 weeks before they start getting in trouble. If the habitat is crap then they were in trouble before winter even started.

Many animals love alfalfa. I do my best to keep them darn deer out of it.

and ask anyone who has hunted bear or any other animal for that matter with hounds and they'll tell you how easy it is.............only problem is you need access to a lot of land to do it effectively.

Once again; like a sack of balls under my bumper hitch or camo graphics on my truck: IT AIN'T HAPPENING. How about some of those gay ass stickers of big bucks? Maybe if I was 17 again................(then I'd probably have the saggy sack too hanging from my hitch)

76 days until May1...Can't wait!

No because Deer are a completely different animal to hunt.

The hound hunting doesn't do anything for me. I can see a benefit in some area for the spring hunt and the use of bait.

Cool, I need to it the range myself !!

Of course. I don't think anyone will say that's a bad wrap at the hands of such legislation. They got screwed. But your posts about the sky falling and linking extremist sites like zerohedge just shows that you are on the far end of the spectrum. A healthy balance of skepticism and optimism often leads to being the best equipped to handle your future.

You can complete the online part any time. The tough part is getting into a class after. It has to be a home study class and the instructor has the option of allowing you in. I would take the online for the information, but I would expect to take the entire class when one comes up. The good part is the online counts as the home study part of the class. It really has no benefit in getting s short cut into a class. Keep checking the dec website. they list all classes by county. They fill up fats.

So today is my 4th day hunting this season. I have finally hit the jackpot on turkey and found where they are roosting and where they go. So finally i have a break and hopefully am going to get one down next time. But here comes the cool part. A young 4 point deer in velvet decided to hang around us for maybe 10 minutes, just eating and chuilling. keep in mind the video makes him look 10 yards away but he was actually 10 feet. I probably coulve reached out and poked him with the barrel. Most of the video didnt come out due to poor lighting but i cropped it and i got me waving at it. Hope you enjoy, me and my dad both agree this was one of the coolest things weve seen in the woods.