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I don't understand all the fuss. Allowing the use of a crossbow during the archery season isn't a big deal. We've had it for years in Pa. I've experienced ZERO negative impact from guys using a crossbow during bow season. It's just another method for hunters to use. Me personally, if it were my home hunting State, I would ask that crossbow hunters be allowed to hunt the entire bow season anywhere in the State, not just a certain time frame or certain zone. I never understand why fellow hunters stand against those who prefer another method of hunting. In Pa over the years and to this day, I hear bickering between gun hunters and bow hunters. It's childish and ridiculous. Hunters as a whole should support increased methods and seasons. Our numbers are slowly but surely dwindling so there really is no time for bickering against one another.

My 1 year 7 month old GSP Daisy, AKA Crystal's Extra Point JH, NA Prize I

Having fun. Being serious.

Rupert waiting patiently for his new buddy to become mobile and chase him around.

Well here is the finished project, I was waiting for that custom plate for the bottom to be made up before posting a picture. At least now I have a spot to keep most of my strikers and "pot calls"!!!

My 3 year old German Shepherd, Drako.

How'd like to hit that peacock call and have this strutter come in ?! ????

I have soiled my drawers more than once over the years, but it never involved a grouse.. Most times, it was the result of trusting a fart... NEVER trust a fart, especially after you have turned 50...

Buying points is a great thing to start for you young bucks...........Even if you don't have the time or money to do a hunt now but would like to someday, start accumulating points NOW. 10, 12 or even 15 years from now (blink of an eye, trust me) you'll be in great shape to draw a dynamite tag. Ask Pygmy......................

We actually have a skeet shooting team and a archery team at a few local schools...Guy at work said his kids grades been way better bc he loves to shoot and can't with bad grades Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

22LR, 12ga, 30-06.... crazy boring answer right? lol

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We all have our own theories as to why hunters are dropping out, but not too many theories as to what to do about it. Most sign on to the weak attempts around special youth seasons. We throw our support around that thought and then declare that the problem is solved. I always thought that such programs are marginal at best in terms of effectiveness and instead supported more aggressive plans that in my mind would be a lot more effective. My favorite thought has always been for direct DEC involvement in public school assembly programs, and even school courses that taught outdoor activities including hunting and fishing. What a perfect way to recruit youth. Replies to that thought always involved a fair level of ridicule and comments that basically said that such a thing would never work and could never be accepted and implemented. Well imagine my surprise when I picked up the outdoor section of our local paper and learned that for the past 8 years, West Virginia has been doing exactly that and with an accompanying reversal in new license sales. Instead of the 20% drop in license sales over the last decade, they recorded an increase in sales of 9% per year since the school curriculum included a hunter education class. And apparently 6 other states have since introduced legislation to do exactly the same thing because of West Virginia's demonstrated success. A little out-of-the-box thinking has been applied with real positive and provable results. 17 states have passed laws to create "apprentice hunting licenses" which allows kids supervised by a trained mentor to sample the sport before completing the required 8-12 hour hunter safety course work. Other states have passed constitutional guarantees for hunting rights which essentially is a governmental endorsement of hunting. But here we are in NYS patting ourselves on the back for special youth seasons and then declaring success and walking away from any further thought on the subject. There are some states that are actually addressing the problem of shrinking hunter populations and showing positive results.

pssssst...."rifles"

Thanks guys, like when a plan comes together.

I think this point is lost and can't be emphasized enough. the "modern" approach to hunting is much different than it used to be. There is a focus on hunting alone (or with one buddy) and taking a low pressure approach to get that wall mounter giant. Our hunting has gotten just like the kids sports. it is an all year event. trail cams, shed hunting. scent control, food plots, tree stand setting and on and on. Years ago it was more of a social event. As a very young kid I spent many a freezing day tagging along with Dad. I didn't look forward to sitting for hours on a hot seat in inadequate clothing, clinching a lighter fluid filled hand warmer for dear life becasue it was fun. The few minutes surrounding getting a deer every couple years was fun but it was the social aspect that was the draw for me. The stories, the ribbing each other, the tailgate lunches on state land parking areas, the early morning breakfasts and hearing the game plan for the day laid out like some Super Bowl chalk board talk. playing cards at night at a ratty old camp and having a dinner that would about harden your arteries from the first bite. Today it seems for many like more of an individual sport. it's a shame, I miss those days.

The smartest and most spoiled family pet we have ever owned. JACK RUSSELL TERRIER With her favorite toddy

SWEET !!! Talk about a solid tree !! I can see why you named him " Chop"....<<grin>>...

My dog and daughter are constantly sleeping on eachother Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

This one was taken in the afternoon around 4pm. back in 2013, think November 7th? In the one picture, I snapped a picture of a small 5 point that almost walked right up to my stand. This big guy must of smelled his prints and followed his trail right to my stand as well. rest is history!!! 1st 10 pointer taken in my life. Great feeling. Last picture is his mount on my wall.

If Raphael's name is on that list then that would give the allegations of affairs with 5 women a lot more credibility. Cruz just looks like a weirdo. I can't listen to him when he talks. When he shook his finger at the camera and said leave Heidi the hell alone, it reminded of George mcfly from back to the future talking to biff. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk

They could all be dead by October!!.........

You know, way, way back, somebody came up with another piece of technology that was all about making hunting a little bit easier. It was called a gun. When bow seasons were established, it was done exactly for the opposite reason of making things easier. It was done to up the challenge level. We seem to have finally completely buried that aspect of bow hunting and continue to march along that same path of "making it just a little easier". With that mentality, who really needs some special season? We have finally corrupted the basic reasons for a special bow season to a point where everything is considered legitimate simply on the precept of making things a little easier. And we are able to justify every incremental step using that same phrase. But what is lost now is the fact that bow season was meant to be a reversal of that mentality.

Yeah people like to "bicker". Like when bowhunters said that bow season should be for bows, there were a bunch of people who wanted to argue with that, basically saying, "were coming into your season whether you like it or not, so move the hell over". Think that's bad, wait until the muzzleloaders say the same thing to the crossbow people. No matter what you may have worked years to set up, there are always those jealous people that come along afterward and want to shove their way in. And then the bickering begins. It is inevitable. There's always somebody who wants what you have. We all know that there are a whole lot of rifle hunters that would just love to have access to the bow season, and someday will be coming for it. And then, once again, you will hear "bickering". Get used to it. I won't end until there are no more "special seasons".

That's good in theory, but deer don't do what you expect, moving a bi pod tripod or mono pod takes movement and time 2 things you try to minimize, maybe if your in a blind, still hunting, tree stand hunting when deer comes from behind, it's a whole new game.. not as easy , you have to learn a whole way to hunt

Coming near another mans project with a level is grounds for a d-punch

Larry better get that thing checked, it's turning green. Maybe a topical cream for fungus or something. The vinegar only makes it smell tasty.

And yet people miss completely with a gun every year ,and it's the epitomizes the top technology available. Getting close and controling yourself is a hard thing to master, some never do or do in part, it's the rush called buck fever.... a gun hunter who decides to take the course and pick up a crossbow has to learn to master this .. 30 yards is still max for most shots with a crossbow.. that alone can be unnerving to a lot of peope.I know someone who is an nys Olympic shooter but shakes so bad with a bow on a deer he has never taken one, and stopped hunting with it. He's fine with a gun though.

My girl. I just put both pics in one image. Top pic is from X-Mas Eve a couple years ago. Bottom pic is from a camping trip early last summer. If you notice, she is guarding my beer gift in one and the steaks I am cooking in the other. LOL

Grolsh in the cork top bottle! Then Stella Artois and Heineken. I mainly drink Bud though. I buy different beer from time to time depending on what looks good in the cooler. If I am camping, where I tend to get carried away and often pop a top around noon, it's usually either Bud Light or Coors Light.

FYI. I do favor the members here, for what it's worth, so I'll be holding off on any Craigslist or other public listings for a week or so...but we are hoping to move along quickly

A THREE inch hole in the paper at 30 yards ? I would like to see a picture of that...A 3" pattern would nearly decapitate a gobbler at 30 yards. A pattern that dense would be a definite disadvantage to most hunters, who take their birds at normal ranges, from 20 to 40 yards...

This is Daisy, my Rottweiler. Pretty much my constant companion when I am not working. She looks a lot more serious than she really is.

April 12 and April 15, 2016 April 12, 2016 is Humane Lobby Day in Albany. Over 150 activists will meet with legislators or their staff to advocate for policy which reduces your opportunity to hunt doves and other webless migratory game birds and train your bird dog or retriever gun dog. Action to Take Today: Go to this link find your senate and assembly representatives and copy a form letter to send them: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/humane-lobby-day.html April 15, 2016 is the last day the DEC will accept responses to its Webless Migratory Game Bird Survey. This survey asks questions which apparently are intended to assess the change in interest level of respondents toward hunting webless migratory game birds over the last 5 years. Action to Take Today: First be aware that there is a national movement to eliminate hunting for webless migratory game birds, including woodcock. One of the justifications given by those seeking this policy change is that there is a “lack of interest” in hunting mourning doves, woodcock, snipe, and rails. Thus, think – out your responses so that you do not relay an unintended message. This survey was sent by either postal mail or email. If you were not selected as a respondent, then by all means write to the DEC prior to April 15 in support of hunting webless migratory game birds. Be sure to include in your correspondence that it is important that mourning dove hunting is reinstated in NY.

if you want i'll pick a unit for you. today is the deadline for putting in for limited entry tags, did you put in? did you put in for a point? do you have any points? do you want go early bow season(starts end of august) or september before muzzy(muzzy runs 9/10-9/18) or during muzzy or after? how many days?

I agree it is difficult to find a place to hunt that isn't public. I am on a lease but it has been for sale for several years. One of these years it will be sold and we will be looking for another lease. It will never happen in NY but I have always thought that if you gave the people willing to open their land to hunting a tax break on property taxes that would open all kinds of land while also having a clause that the land owner cannot be sued. There really isn't any benefit right not to landowners opening their land to hunters.

It's the "what came first, the chicken or the egg" dilemma. Schools won't accept these programs because there are too many closed mind parents. There are too many closed mind parents because no such programs existed in their schools when they were young. So do we start with the parents or do we start with the schools? I think you have to start with the parents. Like you said...take a newbie hunting and shooting.

Revisionist history at it's best!

...... .22lr, .280 Rem, 9.3 x 62 .... I'd use the .22 for edible small game, the 9.3 for big bears, elk, moose and the .280 for everything else... Come to think of it, the .280 would serve well for elk and moose, too.

My wife (donna) enjoys drawing dogs using charcoal/pastels. Using .JPG files originals as the model, she draws portraits onto 9 X 12 art paper. Being impressed with her work, as a husband should be, I told her about the guys here with hunting dogs and asked, “How much do you want per drawing?” So if anyone is interested it’s $50 including tax, mailing and handling. Anyone interested can contact me through profile messaging for more information. I'll send you my email address through private messages. Comments to this thread are also welcome.

When did he reduce our military? Wasn't it congress that did that? Didn't Bush de-stabilize the whole area by attacking Iraq? A country with no ties to 911? Making Iran's Influence in the area stronger? Facts they really are for everyone! You should know them too!

Last night watching Villanova with buzzer beater. At the source. New York Beer Project. Carrot cake imperial brown ale

The simple fact is those who are against hunting are better organized, more active and more determined then those of us who hunt.

That's a great definition for as long as it stands. But we have seen how easy it is to arbitrarily change equipment definitions in bow seasons. You are setting up your own definitions, but you have no legal or authoritative standing to set those definitions and as we have seen, even if you did have such standing your definitions would only hold until the next guy comes along with his ideas of what constitutes legitimate equipment in bow seasons. Let's face it, today it is a free-for-all with an "anything goes" mentality. If someone wants your season, they will have it. It's just a matter of time. If muzzleloaders want to get into bow season, it will happen, and no amount of re-adjusting equipment logic or definitions will stop them.

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The 30 packs I buy for home are either Genny Light or Labatts Blue light.

Just another reason my hair is grey. As many times as it has happened, they still scare the bejeeezes out of me, every time. And once every ten shots or so I get even!

Abraham is the one character I hope sticks around. I'm guessing Eugene got it

This thread is awesome.