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I don't understand all the fuss. Allowing the use of a crossbow during the archery season isn't a big deal. We've had it for years in Pa. I've experienced ZERO negative impact from guys using a crossbow during bow season. It's just another method for hunters to use. Me personally, if it were my home hunting State, I would ask that crossbow hunters be allowed to hunt the entire bow season anywhere in the State, not just a certain time frame or certain zone. I never understand why fellow hunters stand against those who prefer another method of hunting. In Pa over the years and to this day, I hear bickering between gun hunters and bow hunters. It's childish and ridiculous. Hunters as a whole should support increased methods and seasons. Our numbers are slowly but surely dwindling so there really is no time for bickering against one another.

My 1 year 7 month old GSP Daisy, AKA Crystal's Extra Point JH, NA Prize I

Having fun. Being serious.

Rupert waiting patiently for his new buddy to become mobile and chase him around.

Well here is the finished project, I was waiting for that custom plate for the bottom to be made up before posting a picture. At least now I have a spot to keep most of my strikers and "pot calls"!!!

My 3 year old German Shepherd, Drako.

How'd like to hit that peacock call and have this strutter come in ?! ????

I have soiled my drawers more than once over the years, but it never involved a grouse.. Most times, it was the result of trusting a fart... NEVER trust a fart, especially after you have turned 50...

Buying points is a great thing to start for you young bucks...........Even if you don't have the time or money to do a hunt now but would like to someday, start accumulating points NOW. 10, 12 or even 15 years from now (blink of an eye, trust me) you'll be in great shape to draw a dynamite tag. Ask Pygmy......................

We actually have a skeet shooting team and a archery team at a few local schools...Guy at work said his kids grades been way better bc he loves to shoot and can't with bad grades Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

22LR, 12ga, 30-06.... crazy boring answer right? lol

UKC Triple Champion---Porkchop

We all have our own theories as to why hunters are dropping out, but not too many theories as to what to do about it. Most sign on to the weak attempts around special youth seasons. We throw our support around that thought and then declare that the problem is solved. I always thought that such programs are marginal at best in terms of effectiveness and instead supported more aggressive plans that in my mind would be a lot more effective. My favorite thought has always been for direct DEC involvement in public school assembly programs, and even school courses that taught outdoor activities including hunting and fishing. What a perfect way to recruit youth. Replies to that thought always involved a fair level of ridicule and comments that basically said that such a thing would never work and could never be accepted and implemented. Well imagine my surprise when I picked up the outdoor section of our local paper and learned that for the past 8 years, West Virginia has been doing exactly that and with an accompanying reversal in new license sales. Instead of the 20% drop in license sales over the last decade, they recorded an increase in sales of 9% per year since the school curriculum included a hunter education class. And apparently 6 other states have since introduced legislation to do exactly the same thing because of West Virginia's demonstrated success. A little out-of-the-box thinking has been applied with real positive and provable results. 17 states have passed laws to create "apprentice hunting licenses" which allows kids supervised by a trained mentor to sample the sport before completing the required 8-12 hour hunter safety course work. Other states have passed constitutional guarantees for hunting rights which essentially is a governmental endorsement of hunting. But here we are in NYS patting ourselves on the back for special youth seasons and then declaring success and walking away from any further thought on the subject. There are some states that are actually addressing the problem of shrinking hunter populations and showing positive results.

pssssst...."rifles"

Thanks guys, like when a plan comes together.

I think this point is lost and can't be emphasized enough. the "modern" approach to hunting is much different than it used to be. There is a focus on hunting alone (or with one buddy) and taking a low pressure approach to get that wall mounter giant. Our hunting has gotten just like the kids sports. it is an all year event. trail cams, shed hunting. scent control, food plots, tree stand setting and on and on. Years ago it was more of a social event. As a very young kid I spent many a freezing day tagging along with Dad. I didn't look forward to sitting for hours on a hot seat in inadequate clothing, clinching a lighter fluid filled hand warmer for dear life becasue it was fun. The few minutes surrounding getting a deer every couple years was fun but it was the social aspect that was the draw for me. The stories, the ribbing each other, the tailgate lunches on state land parking areas, the early morning breakfasts and hearing the game plan for the day laid out like some Super Bowl chalk board talk. playing cards at night at a ratty old camp and having a dinner that would about harden your arteries from the first bite. Today it seems for many like more of an individual sport. it's a shame, I miss those days.

The smartest and most spoiled family pet we have ever owned. JACK RUSSELL TERRIER With her favorite toddy

SWEET !!! Talk about a solid tree !! I can see why you named him " Chop"....<<grin>>...

My dog and daughter are constantly sleeping on eachother Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

This one was taken in the afternoon around 4pm. back in 2013, think November 7th? In the one picture, I snapped a picture of a small 5 point that almost walked right up to my stand. This big guy must of smelled his prints and followed his trail right to my stand as well. rest is history!!! 1st 10 pointer taken in my life. Great feeling. Last picture is his mount on my wall.

If Raphael's name is on that list then that would give the allegations of affairs with 5 women a lot more credibility. Cruz just looks like a weirdo. I can't listen to him when he talks. When he shook his finger at the camera and said leave Heidi the hell alone, it reminded of George mcfly from back to the future talking to biff. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk

They could all be dead by October!!.........

You know, way, way back, somebody came up with another piece of technology that was all about making hunting a little bit easier. It was called a gun. When bow seasons were established, it was done exactly for the opposite reason of making things easier. It was done to up the challenge level. We seem to have finally completely buried that aspect of bow hunting and continue to march along that same path of "making it just a little easier". With that mentality, who really needs some special season? We have finally corrupted the basic reasons for a special bow season to a point where everything is considered legitimate simply on the precept of making things a little easier. And we are able to justify every incremental step using that same phrase. But what is lost now is the fact that bow season was meant to be a reversal of that mentality.

Yeah people like to "bicker". Like when bowhunters said that bow season should be for bows, there were a bunch of people who wanted to argue with that, basically saying, "were coming into your season whether you like it or not, so move the hell over". Think that's bad, wait until the muzzleloaders say the same thing to the crossbow people. No matter what you may have worked years to set up, there are always those jealous people that come along afterward and want to shove their way in. And then the bickering begins. It is inevitable. There's always somebody who wants what you have. We all know that there are a whole lot of rifle hunters that would just love to have access to the bow season, and someday will be coming for it. And then, once again, you will hear "bickering". Get used to it. I won't end until there are no more "special seasons".

That's good in theory, but deer don't do what you expect, moving a bi pod tripod or mono pod takes movement and time 2 things you try to minimize, maybe if your in a blind, still hunting, tree stand hunting when deer comes from behind, it's a whole new game.. not as easy , you have to learn a whole way to hunt

Coming near another mans project with a level is grounds for a d-punch

Larry better get that thing checked, it's turning green. Maybe a topical cream for fungus or something. The vinegar only makes it smell tasty.

And yet people miss completely with a gun every year ,and it's the epitomizes the top technology available. Getting close and controling yourself is a hard thing to master, some never do or do in part, it's the rush called buck fever.... a gun hunter who decides to take the course and pick up a crossbow has to learn to master this .. 30 yards is still max for most shots with a crossbow.. that alone can be unnerving to a lot of peope.I know someone who is an nys Olympic shooter but shakes so bad with a bow on a deer he has never taken one, and stopped hunting with it. He's fine with a gun though.

My girl. I just put both pics in one image. Top pic is from X-Mas Eve a couple years ago. Bottom pic is from a camping trip early last summer. If you notice, she is guarding my beer gift in one and the steaks I am cooking in the other. LOL

Grolsh in the cork top bottle! Then Stella Artois and Heineken. I mainly drink Bud though. I buy different beer from time to time depending on what looks good in the cooler. If I am camping, where I tend to get carried away and often pop a top around noon, it's usually either Bud Light or Coors Light.

FYI. I do favor the members here, for what it's worth, so I'll be holding off on any Craigslist or other public listings for a week or so...but we are hoping to move along quickly

A THREE inch hole in the paper at 30 yards ? I would like to see a picture of that...A 3" pattern would nearly decapitate a gobbler at 30 yards. A pattern that dense would be a definite disadvantage to most hunters, who take their birds at normal ranges, from 20 to 40 yards...

This is Daisy, my Rottweiler. Pretty much my constant companion when I am not working. She looks a lot more serious than she really is.

When one of these rascals took off right at your feet in the early morning darkness!!!!!

No lie here, the private land I hunt in the NZ the owner has about 7 peacocks. I think the g/f has some pics of the adults and a few babies from two years ago. If she kept them I will post a couple. I really though this was a joke call. I have no plans on buying one, but I thought it was interesting to say the least.

They'd be as follows..........Ruger 10/22, NULA 7mm-08 and Sako 375 H&H. Gawd it'd be a boring existence though............................

Stage 2. Oven at 225 for a few hours

Pork butt. Little mustard coating so coffee dry rub will stick. Almonds sautéed in butter and dry rub. Smoker is stage 1 of BBQ pulled pork.

is this the same madame and list that brought our governor to his knees? so to speak! lol Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Short Short Memory, or perhaps selective...I'm sure the solution is easy for every one of you. Once our friends but then not so much. "This enduring meme is wrong on more than one account. The group pictured is not the Taliban, thephotograph was not taken in 1985, and Reagan did not compare the pictured group to the Founding Fathers. (In this particular meme, even the name "Reagan" is misspelled.) According to the Ronald Reagan Library, the above-displayed photo was taken in 1983, and shows the former president meeting with Afghan rebel leaders to discuss the Soviet presence in Afghanistan. While the Reagan administration did help fund and equip the Mujahideen in Afghanistan (and rebel groups elsewhere) so that they could fight against the Soviet occupation, it is inaccurate to say that the former president met with the Taliban, as at that point they did not exist:" But hey what did he know? N.Korea is the most watched place on earth because of all the saber rattling Kim spews. Can we watch them even more, bomb em first? Drone attack em?

Most impressive at that distance!!!

bow, kiss his hand and apologize for America causing all of this.

Thanks Moog . I am still young at 74 .

I am suggesting that we get off our duffs and begin some pro-active, aggressive, activity that actually makes sense and has a proven track record, and stop merely giving lip-service to our efforts to revitalize hunting as a legitimate activity. I am not interested in continuing to let the anti-hunters set the education agendas. Does it take legislation to do this. It sure does. Or we can sit back and continue to watch hunting slide into the toilet because we are more concerned with throwing stones at successful programs than really addressing the problems and solving them. As for financial soundness, I have to wonder just what the costs will be when deer populations become totally uncontrolled because hunting has lost all legitimacy and acceptance. The drop in West Virginia's hunting license revenues tallied up to 1.5 million dollars because of that 20% decrease in hunters over that decade surveyed. I'll bet they have no problem justifying the expenditure as their license sales continue to increase.

That's very disturbing. Wrong attitude for someone blessed with the privilege of being an American.

Remeasured today and its more like 315 SF. So I screwed up before I even started. Oh yeah…… this should go good.

Have had more than one dive bomb me in my favorite pine tree stand.

And still, with a crossbow, you have to have the skill and woodsmanship to consistently, put yourself 30 yards or so downwind of deer to kill them. Even with rifles, some "clowns" can only hope to get lucky. No matter what tool is in their hand. A good hunter is still a good hunter. A stumblebum in the woods is no threat to the deer population. Especially with a crossbow! Let full inclusion happen. And let each hunter decide for themselves what tool they want to hunt with.

Duke, 11 year old golden Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk