eagle rider Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 If you believe the start of the rut is the night of the second full moon after the fall equinox, that would make the rut begin on Nov 14th. It would make the peak around the 19th or 20th. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YFKI1983 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Right around opening day of gun season. Guess that's goodSent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just as many are bred at the end of October most years. By the time the second week of November rolls around most have been bred. Last week of Oct..First week of Nov...Moon or No Moon. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I've been keeping journals for over 35 years. And I realize its not a scientific study, just my own observations in the area I hunt. The peak day every year, when the bucks are on their feet actively searching or with a doe is November 10th give or take a day on either side. Of course there is breeding, sometimes well before and after November 10th. But the 10th is what I've come to call the magical day! This would be the day a mature buck would be seen standing in the middle of a field with a doe or cruzing with his nose to the ground. Or running a doe across a road or open area. It is a time to be in the stand all day! If there is only one day to be out there it would be November 10th! I have a world of respect for Charlie A. as an outdoorsman, photographer, writer and hunter. But his luner predictions just never lined up with what I was actually seeing in the woods, in my area, consistently year to year. But for consistency, year to year, no matter the moon phase, it's Nov. 10th for me. Again, just my personal observations. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I predict it will happenSent from my iPad using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 There are at least 4 phases to the rut. Breeding begins in October and ends (of the most part in December). Mature bucks don't seek in a doe saturated area like ours as much as most would think. The hope to get luck frantic chase phase is not as much strategy as one would like to think- it's just laser pointer-cat relationship for those who didn't scout or like what they found scouting Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsNbows Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 On August 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM, grampy said: I've been keeping journals for over 35 years. And I realize its not a scientific study, just my own observations in the area I hunt. The peak day every year, when the bucks are on their feet actively searching or with a doe is November 10th give or take a day on either side. Of course there is breeding, sometimes well before and after November 10th. But the 10th is what I've come to call the magical day! This would be the day a mature buck would be seen standing in the middle of a field with a doe or cruzing with his nose to the ground. Or running a doe across a road or open area. It is a time to be in the stand all day! If there is only one day to be out there it would be November 10th! I have a world of respect for Charlie A. as an outdoorsman, photographer, writer and hunter. But his luner predictions just never lined up with what I was actually seeing in the woods, in my area, consistently year to year. But for consistency, year to year, no matter the moon phase, it's Nov. 10th for me. Again, just my personal observations. Some folks believe Charlie's predictions, some don't. My views parallel yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) I believe too many people confuse "peak breeding" and deer having sex. The reality is, deer are animals just like us. They will sex with does for 2 - 3 months. I've seen bucks chasing does from early October all the way even into January. When they actually impregnate a doe is based on her estrus cycle and THAT is what many try and predict. When a deer will actually be impregnated. The bottom line, be in a tree stand during hunting season. And yeah, I'm not in Charlie's camp. I am sure there is logic and science behind what he reports, but keep in mind that most of his observation is based on farmed deer! Edited August 14, 2016 by beachpeaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpkot Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I took a vacation day for November 10th. Ill be out hunting hopefully with my dad as its his birthday. Hoping to test out grampys theory. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I believe too many people confuse "peak breeding" and deer having sex. The reality is, deer are animals just like us. They will sex with does for 2 - 3 months. I've seen bucks chasing does from early October all the way even into January. When they actually impregnate a doe is based on her estrus cycle and THAT is what many try and predict. When a deer will actually be impregnated. The bottom line, be in a tree stand during hunting season. And yeah, I'm not in Charlie's camp. I am sure there is logic and science behind what he reports, but keep in mind that most of his observation is based on farmed deer!The reality is this is incorrect. Deer are seasonal breeders and does for the most will only stand when they are are in estrus. That is not to say the does don't come into estrus at different times. However to infer that does will stand breed while not in estrus is wrong. To use your terminology, deer don't just have sex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, Trial153 said: The reality is this is incorrect. Deer are seasonal breeders and does for the most will only stand when they are are in estrus. That is not to say the does don't come into estrus at different times. However to infer that does will stand breed while not in estrus is wrong. To use your terminology, deer don't just have sex. I think you over-read what my point was. From a hunters perspective, they are looking for bucks to be on their feet chasing does. They chase does for the purpose of sex. They may not accomplish the act of actual penetration with exception of a small estrus window, but they sure as hell will try for more than just that 1 week period. When I refer to "sex," i am referring to that entire window that they will give chase / follow, not just the 5 minute snuggle time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 The time you want to be in your stand is seeking phase, when peak occurs you need a hot.doe near by or you won't see squat.. usually week to 10 days before peek. So normally 1st 2 weeks november .is best hunting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I start my rut hunting phase October 20 thru gun season...Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 If your waiting for rut until 10-20...You're late lol. 9-15 is for some reason my favorite hunting day of the season and has been for a few years. I got a doe on he 14th last year after not having a shot at a brute. Then the following day on the 15th I got my favorite buck of my life. A non typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Here what I predict...I won't see squat if not out in the chase phase...and don't pick just the right stand between favorite mast...for like it or not...over 200 red oak and most of them are dropping at least some acorn...I have a lot of apples and the beech are dropping like mad...So as far as rut .....they will breed no matter when...but where they are during that breeding is up to their stomachs and cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdan44 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I like to bow hunt right around Veterans Day every year. I don't always get a big buck but I usually see one or two searching. Plus I enjoy being in the woods in November . That seems like the optimum time in my experience.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 4 hours ago, beachpeaz said: I believe too many people confuse "peak breeding" and deer having sex. The reality is, deer are animals just like us. They will sex with does for 2 - 3 months. I've seen bucks chasing does from early October all the way even into January. When they actually impregnate a doe is based on her estrus cycle and THAT is what many try and predict. When a deer will actually be impregnated. The bottom line, be in a tree stand during hunting season. And yeah, I'm not in Charlie's camp. I am sure there is logic and science behind what he reports, but keep in mind that most of his observation is based on farmed deer! Dont let that fool ya...A Whitetail is a Whitetail regardless of where it stands. My deer match up with the wilds year in and yer out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I take most of the month of November off. There is a difference between rutting and breading, breading is just a small part of the rut. I don’t take much stock in the lunar tables. I do have to agree with the time frame around November 10th seeing a lot of activity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Moon Schmoon, its about photoperiod, and the moon has nothing to do with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: Moon Schmoon, its about photoperiod, and the moon has nothing to do with that. You got that right..And believe it or not my bucks are already showing the urge. New demeanor everyday and winter coats coming in. Its all about the sunshine in the eye's! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKhunter Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I hope your right, as My Bday is the 10th and I have the 11th off I will be out that whole long weekend. My favorite time is to be out around that time. Every few years I have seen the gun opener to have a lot of action, but the majority of years it is right before and then goes quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1st days of November are key for me...lots of chasing going on around then. Great time to be in the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Regardless of what you believe, if you can hunt the last week of October- November DO IT! For me November 7th (B-Day) is the day to be in the woods through the 21st. Those 2 weeks always seem to be the best action up North but on LI I have seen earlier breeding. These seem to be the early cycle for some doe as the majority still follow the November prime breading dates. With the peak this year around the typical dates of the Nov 17th - 21st (If you follow moon phases.) I would think this years rut would be very intensive with many doe cycling around these dates. This should make the pre-rut chasing phase very intense this year, that's my prediction and I am sticking to it. See how it pans out. Edited August 18, 2016 by NFA-ADK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 My vacation this year is from oct 17-nov 29 and the 7th-15th of December my prediction is during my first block of vaca I will see rutting activity. My 2nd prediction is that it will start a week and a half earlier at my house than it will up at camp. I bet The 7-10 at home and 17-25 up north.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 thing is for sure we are not gonna see any deer if we are not in the woods,I like to hunt when ever I can from bow to gun season...My wife says she is a hunting widow until Christmas...LOL 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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