looks like democrats going to try and steal the election

[Steuben Jerry]

15 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

Vagi-boy has a pedophilic ring to it.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

[Versatile_Hunter]

3 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said:

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Back to feet!  Man I’m telling, you’d love these people 

[left field]

7 minutes ago, airedale said:

Or AKA Left Field

Not for many years but I had a pretty good run at being a vaginal hunter.

[phantom]

1 hour ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Biden is going to win, but youll have to wait a few weeks. Hopefully Trump doesn't use that time to exterminate another race

I don't  know who is going to win but I do know  the way it has worked out so far  bidens not going to have the votes in  the other branches of government  to do the far lefts bs  but who knows could take weeks  to know for sure  trumps still in the game .  joe biden has a 47 year track record of doing nothing anyway  if he wins  more then likely that's what he will do nothing  but nap all day long .  

[nyslowhand]

Regardless of who wins the elections, I can't foresee either candidate drastically changing things! We'll still have suring COVID-19 cases, a high unemployment rate, an ineffective government, enormous debt, poor diplomacy with foreign nations, terrorists attacks, immigration issues and on and on!

[Steve D]

2 minutes ago, nyslowhand said:

I can't foresee either candidate drastically changing things!

The only thing this election has proved is that we have a divided country and neither Biden nor Trump has the capability to change that. Only the people can change it and it is going to be a struggle for several years to see who ends up on top.

[Steuben Jerry]

1 hour ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

Back to feet!  Man I’m telling, you’d love these people 

It’s a annoyance when another person just comes back with constant insults to an otherwise civil conversation isn’t it? It’s exactly what you do to others. I’m just being overt about it. 
Try to be civil with folks here, VH.
Most folks on this site are very civil and don’t deserve crap.

[left field]

I would suggest that it is the very nature of someone needed to be "on top" that divides the country more than anything else.

I also have to say that it is mind-numbingly insane that a country which purports to be the greatest democracy (or constitutional federal republic) in the world can't pull off a simple election. Every four years, it's the same nonsense.

 

[DirtTime]

What ever happens, happens. Pissing and moaning about it isn't going to help or change anything. Both sides are acting like cry babies at this point! It sort of sickening really.

 

I found this great way to take my mind off all this political trash, it's called hunting!

 

That's what were all here for, to talk about hunting right? Oh wait..... Never mind...........

[phantom]

21 minutes ago, Steve D said:

The only thing this election has proved is that we have a divided country and neither Biden nor Trump has the capability to change that. Only the people can change it and it is going to be a struggle for several years to see who ends up on top.

but are we really ? seems like it is the media doing the dividing .   They did not let in poll watchers in a lot of those close states I heard now why is that ? so this thing is going to drag on 

Edited November 5, 2020 by phantom

[Steve D]

1 hour ago, phantom said:

but are we really ? seems like it is the media doing the dividing .   They did not let in poll watchers in a lot of those close states I heard now why is that ? so this thing is going to drag on 

While the media plays a big roll the way they report the news the fact of the matter is this election should have been a landslide victory for one or the other.

 Biden/Harris and Trump are totally opposite in their views and policies. The fact that the vote is so close speaks for the fact that we are truly divided as a country. If we weren't one or the other would have walked away with a decisive win.

[crappyice]

I would suggest that it is the very nature of someone needed to be "on top" that divides the country more than anything else.
I also have to say that it is mind-numbingly insane that a country which purports to be the greatest democracy (or constitutional federal republic) in the world can't pull off a simple election. Every four years, it's the same nonsense.
 

I couldn’t vote more than once (if you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying!) for my daughter to win a silly singing contest on-line a few years back but somehow we can’t elect a president without scandal.


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[phantom]

1 hour ago, Steve D said:

While the media plays a big roll the way they report the news the fact of the matter is this election should have been a landslide victory for one or the other.

 Biden/Harris and Trump are totally opposite in their views and policies. The fact that the vote is so close speaks for the fact that we are truly divided as a country. If we weren't one or the other would have walked away with a decisive win.

seems like you have a few big city's versus rest of the country .  Take a look at the election map by counties most the counties are red . 

https://www.google.com/search?q=red+blue+counties+map&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiXwKnyrursAhUEO98KHcAbCtYQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=red+blue++counties+&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyBAgAEB4yBggAEAUQHjoECAAQGDoGCAAQCBAeOgYIABAHEB46CAgAELEDEIMBOgoIABCxAxCDARBDOgQIABBDOggIABAHEAUQHjoICAAQCBAHEB5Q21JYwZMBYJinAWgAcAB4AYABlAGIAdkKkgEEMjAuMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=omSjX5fnBYT2_AbAt6iwDQ&bih=754&biw=1536

Edited November 5, 2020 by phantom

[phantom]

well how about we have universal VOTER ID laws like every other civilized country in the world has  even Canada.. are election  system is a joke . 

[nybuckboy]

He has a character flaw!

https://www.upworthy.com/psychologist-explains-trumps-lack-of-conscience-and-why-his-base-loves-it#toggle-gdpr

[BowmanMike]

the two party system is shit. For being the "greatest democracy in the world" a two party system and the electoral college are terrible for making peoples voices heard. Both parties have such wide ranging supporter views that hardly fit under one roof. 

It also gives people on both ends of the spectrum a feeling of not being taken seriousy and to become disenfranchised with politics in general.

Most people are with one or the other party because of one or two main points. Wouldn't it be nice if there were more options,possibly even one that you could support on the grounds of more than one or two points? 

Meaningful change or even discussion is not going to happen with two parties that have been fighting for a few seats and a few votes for decades now.

[phantom]

3 hours ago, BowmanMike said:

the two party system is shit. For being the "greatest democracy in the world" a two party system and the electoral college are terrible for making peoples voices heard. Both parties have such wide ranging supporter views that hardly fit under one roof. 

It also gives people on both ends of the spectrum a feeling of not being taken seriousy and to become disenfranchised with politics in general.

Most people are with one or the other party because of one or two main points. Wouldn't it be nice if there were more options,possibly even one that you could support on the grounds of more than one or two points? 

Meaningful change or even discussion is not going to happen with two parties that have been fighting for a few seats and a few votes for decades now.

See the problem is  all the have nots think they are owed something,  all a government really is is a bunch of guys that have a army to keep everyone  else in control . That we have all of these goodies  social benefits is nice but not what a free country is all about  and  those goodies  can never be enough to live the way people want to live  you can only help so many people before the system collapses and bankrupts the whole country  that's what socialism  and communisms does it makes everyone   more poor  not rich  .  AND NOTICE THE PEOPLE AT TOP DONT FALLOW THE LAWS THE REST OF US HAVE TO  like Biden and his son  hunter    .

the founding fathers  wanted  a constitutional republic  to be one of limited powers under a rule of law, rather than an intrusive state aimed at redistributing income and wealth via the democratic process”.  

 

[BowmanMike]

58 minutes ago, phantom said:

See the problem is  all the have nots think they are owed something,  all a government really is is a bunch of guys that have a army to keep everyone  else in control . That we have all of these goodies  social benefits is nice but not what a free country is all about  and  those goodies  can never be enough to live the way people want to live  you can only help so many people before the system collapses and bankrupts the whole country  that's what socialism  and communisms does it makes everyone   more poor  not rich  .  AND NOTICE THE PEOPLE AT TOP DONT FALLOW THE LAWS THE REST OF US HAVE TO  like Biden and his son  hunter    .

the founding fathers  wanted  a constitutional republic  to be one of limited powers under a rule of law, rather than an intrusive state aimed at redistributing income and wealth via the democratic process”.  

 

I would not have a problem if the wealthy paid their fair share. Folks always are riled up about the money spent on poor people but never about the money the super rich dont pay because they can evade it. Just like your former president paying less taxes than the average joe. Andhow many times has he been bankrupt? Who bailed him out? Talk about playing the system.

Cracks me up you think Biden plays the system more than the Don. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by BowmanMike

[phantom]

1 hour ago, BowmanMike said:

I would not have a problem if the wealthy paid their fair share. Folks always are riled up about the money spent on poor people but never about the money the super rich dont pay because they can evade it. Just like your former president paying less taxes than the average joe. Andhow many times has he been bankrupt? Who bailed him out? Talk about playing the system.

Cracks me up you think Biden plays the system more than the Don. 

apple to oranges 

(paid their fair share )I hope you know that's just a democratic talking point written by billionaire  lawyers ironically .

trump made his  money in a private family  business  if he isn't paying lots of  federal tax its because he is paying  lots of other taxes, state tax  or  other loop holes in the tax code designed to help grow the  economy  make more jobs for people . 

biden on the other hand  got his money selling out  the  US  government  to who ever paid him off    including china  do you not see the problem ?

trumps privet business does not effect you are  I   except he created  a whole lot  of jobs for people .

someone like biden on the other hand making money off government  decisions effects all of us when biden lies and says china is not a threat because his son got millions  from china that effects all of us when biden was in charge of trade dealings with china and gave them a free pass to sell their  shit here and take jobs and steal ideas from this country that effects all of us do you not see the problem  and the difference between him and trumps tax which does not effect you or I .

you talk about trump and taxes when all the billionaire   class backed biden and the democrat's spending billions in this election to take out trump they did that because they are going to pay more in tax right that's what you think LOL 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by phantom

[BowmanMike]

23 minutes ago, phantom said:

apple to oranges 

(paid their fair share )I hope you know that's just a democratic talking point written by billionaire  lawyers ironically .

trump made his  money in a private family  business  if he isn't paying lots of  federal tax its because he is paying  lots of other taxes, state tax  or  other loop holes in the tax code designed to help grow the  economy  make more jobs for people . 

biden on the other hand  got his money selling out  the  US  government  to who ever paid him off    including china  do you not see the problem ?

trumps privet business does not effect you are  I   except he created  a whole lot  of jobs for people .

someone like biden on the other hand making money off government  decisions effects all of us when biden lies and says china is not a threat because his son got millions  from china that effects all of us when biden was in charge of trade dealings with china and gave them a free pass to sell there shit here and take jobs and steal ideas from this country that effects all of us do you not see the problem  and the difference between him and trumps tax which does not effect you or I .

you talk about trump and taxes when all the billionaire   class backed biden and the democrat's spending billions in this election to take out trump they did that because they are going to pay more in tax right that's what you think LOL 

 

 

 

 

Trump pays more taxes in china than the U.S. You don't believe anything thats reported on cnn or nbc and everything trump says. It is hard to argue when we have entirely different "facts".

Trumps businesses created some nice jobs for people,also some illegal immigrants. But if you think he started those businesses for the good of anyone besides himself I would disagree. Trump cares about Trump,and Trump only. How that escapes people i dont understand.

[phantom]

53 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

Trump pays more taxes in china than the U.S. You don't believe anything thats reported on cnn or nbc and everything trump says. It is hard to argue when we have entirely different "facts".

Trumps businesses created some nice jobs for people,also some illegal immigrants. But if you think he started those businesses for the good of anyone besides himself I would disagree. Trump cares about Trump,and Trump only. How that escapes people i dont understand.

you make  no sense why would anyone start a business then ? do you work for free ?  its to make money nothing wrong with that and in the process it creates more jobs for other people   you think joe biden is helping you really the government is there for themselves it is  worse then a   business  the difference is they  have a army to force you to do what they want   a privet business has to work for it to get your money  the government can just steal it from you  by force your don't see the difference ? so cnn nbc all owned by brilliance's tells you trump is the bad billionaire and there puppet biden is good and you eat it up . lol  

 

btw trumps on record since the 1980s talking about the dangers of these bad trade deals with other country's

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by phantom

[mowin]

18 hours ago, Chef said:

We have always in our history counted after Election Day what the hell are you taking about


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Really??  Counting/accepting ballots with no post mark, no signature, after the election is over?  

What the hell are you talking about?? 

[virgil]

Even Fox News seems to be avoiding pushing this silly narrative of the election being stolen.  Their actual news people seem to be reporting it straight.  Their 'opinion/entertainment' people- Hannity, Ingraham, etc. are the ones pushing the conspiracy nonsense to their loyal followers.

[landtracdeerhunter]

This was the biggest problem with President Trump, shooting his mouth off before knowing the facts. He missed alot of Democrat voter this go around, and may have cost him a second term.  

[BowmanMike]

1 hour ago, phantom said:

you make  no sense why would anyone start a business then ? do you work for free ?  its to make money nothing wrong with that and in the process it creates more jobs for other people   you think joe biden is helping you really the government is there for themselves it is  worse then a   business  the difference is they  have a army to force you to do what they want   a privet business has to work for it to get your money  the government can just steal it from you  by force your don't see the difference ? so cnn nbc all owned by brilliance's tells you trump is the bad billionaire and there puppet biden is good and you eat it up . lol  

 

btw trumps on record since the 1980s talking about the dangers of these bad trade deals with other country's

 

 

 

 

People should make money. But in my mind one also has a responsibility to the employees. Free market means the CEO's try to get away with whatever you can,human nature. Bigger companies have bigger pull. Have you ever seen a 15 employee company getting tax breaks for opening up in a certain area? Or getting subsidies like big oil?If the top earner in a company makes 400x more money than the lowest paid worker,what do you call that? Appropriate? I call that greedy a.f.