Shoots100 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, DoubleDose said: PSA: The harness is only step one. The harness protects from fall injury. However, there is another injury called suspension trauma which comes from being suspended too long in a harness. This has the potential to also be crippling or fatal. You need to also have a plan/method to get yourself out of being suspended. Tom Miranda did a bit on this on part of one of his shows. Exactly why you need a descender system. No matter the harness, your still hanging in a tree. Treestand wingman Edited December 16, 2021 by Shoots100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 No one should ever lose the bottom of a climber Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 My plan is to just die in the woods and not be found till animal consume me... I eat them they can eat me.... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpkot Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: No one should ever lose the bottom of a climber Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro If only I had a third hand... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 If only I had a third hand...Even if you dont a rope is a simple solutionSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 My Treewalker stand has a simply ingenious solution to the dropped lower section. I’m too tired to elaborate though….good night friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavuser Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Shoots100 said: Exactly why you need a descender system. No matter the harness, your still hanging in a tree. Treestand wingman Treestand Wingman!! I own one, spent an entire day jumping out of trees and it 100% plain ol works over and over again. Will never ever go up a tree without it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorstom Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 9:49 PM, Nytracker said: Suspension strap is a must . Need to have it and learn to deploy it . If he wasn't found for a few hours he could very well have died . Or died from blood clots on the way to hospital . I carry 2 in my vest just incase I drop one . You carry two blood clots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Suspension straps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, outdoorstom said: You carry two blood clots? Suspension straps . They double as deer drags . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorstom Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 21 hours ago, Shoots100 said: Exactly why you need a descender system. No matter the harness, your still hanging in a tree. Treestand wingman First I’ve seen of this product. Looks like a great system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorstom Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nytracker said: Suspension straps . Sorry man, I’m a bit of a smart ass :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just now, outdoorstom said: Sorry man, I’m a bit of a smart ass :-) Kind of figured but wanted to be clear as that information could save a life. I am seriously going to get the wingman type arrestor. Makes perfect sense to upgrade . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorstom Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Nytracker said: Kind of figured but wanted to be clear as that information could save a life. I am seriously going to get the wingman type arrestor. Makes perfect sense to upgrade . I watched their video and I’m planning on getting one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46rkl Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I typically hunt alone so it is very important to have a fall plan in place. Always wear a harness (two good friends who don’t even though we have had two friends die from falls), always have a suspension strap and practice using it. Always have the phone in a top pocket that will be free from being trapped by harness straps. Always let wife or neighbor what stand I’m heading to and let them know if I change my mind. I have had a climber base fall from under me while climbing down and it was before cell phones were a thing. Luckily, I had a radio and left one with my neighbor. Had to call him to bring a ladder out to get me down. Not fun. If you don’t think a safety vest is for you, think about those whom depend on/love you. It’s a no brained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, outdoorstom said: I watched their video and I’m planning on getting one too. X2. Looks like a great system. I wonder how long the line is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoots100 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 10:48 PM, heavuser said: Treestand Wingman!! I own one, spent an entire day jumping out of trees and it 100% plain ol works over and over again. Will never ever go up a tree without it. I did the same thing, but the first time I had my brother there, just in case ! After I tried it, my brother had to try it and we were like two kids with a new toy. Cool thing about it, besides it working, is that you can reuse it, unlike the other descender systems and it's weight adjustable. My highest stand is 30' and I had strap to spare. It's upstate , or I'd measure it. Besides testing, I've never had to use it, but I know it works and is a lot more reliable than a cell phone or radio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavuser Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, Shoots100 said: I did the same thing, but the first time I had my brother there, just in case ! After I tried it, my brother had to try it and we were like two kids with a new toy. Cool thing about it, besides it working, is that you can reuse it, unlike the other descender systems and it's weight adjustable. My highest stand is 30' and I had strap to spare. It's upstate , or I'd measure it. Besides testing, I've never had to use it, but I know it works and is a lot more reliable than a cell phone or radio. Glad I'm not the only one who enjoyed using it lol. Honestly, anyone who uses a tree stand should own one. A harness is great for buying you time, hang long enough though and it's lights out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 It is not really that difficult to kill deer from ground level or certainly a lot closer to the ground than many folks seem to prefer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, wolc123 said: It is not really that difficult to kill deer from ground level or certainly a lot closer to the ground than many folks seem to prefer. True, bit if you are comfortable there is often an advantage especially during archery. During bow season I probably spend 90% of my time in a stand. During firearm season I spend maybe 33% of my time in a stand. Depending on the area , it's nice to be quickly mobile, and there is not an to advantage being in the air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, ncountry said: True, bit if you are comfortable there is often an advantage especially during archery. During bow season I probably spend 90% of my time in a stand. During firearm season I spend maybe 33% of my time in a stand. Depending on the area , it's nice to be quickly mobile, and there is not an to advantage being in the air. When youre on watch, I believe being in the air is advantageous, but I agree with the mobility factor, too. I like to get down from time to time and do a little still hunting during midday, then climb back up for second watch in the pm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 My property is so stem dense you can't see 20 yards in any direction. The property was clearcut 30 years ago . I have hunted this property 25 plus years . All our stands are on logging roads . If it weren't for tree stands I think our success rate would be down to 10 percent of what it is . I spend a majority of my time clearing roads and brush removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 hours ago, ncountry said: X2. Looks like a great system. I wonder how long the line is? It says 30' I'm going to get the stainless one for the few extra bucks. https://treestandwingman.com/buy-treestand-wingman-now/treestand-wingman-pro-series/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I need to up my game in this department. I just use an old school double loop strap. One loop around the tree, one loop around me. I forgot to grab it the afternoon I shot my opening day buck and sat in a ladder stand strapless. I’m too old to be risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 8:02 PM, Shoots100 said: Exactly why you need a descender system. No matter the harness, your still hanging in a tree. Treestand wingman That looks like a great system but I wonder if it was used by someone like me that uses a climber a lot how would you get the climber out of the tree? I can envision falling out, descending to the ground, and unable to get the climber back down unless I am missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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