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Elmo they can tax the guns right out of your hands and don't have to make them illegal. Think that is far fetched? Look at some of the NYS pistol permit areas that require a pretty hefty fee to renew them. How about Illinois passing the $.05 a round tax? Funny how when we are talking guns it is acceptable to throw on a small tax but if we require a few bucks for a one time ID to be used for voter identification of proof of citizenship...that is an undue hardship on the poor.

I think this is a 2 sided discussion and both are pertinent to talk about. A) Would registering your guns one time with serial numbers with the state or fed gov't protect the gun owner if the guns were stolen or used in a crime? Would this in turn, over time, contribute to a major decrease in killings by thugs and criminals who obtain the guns illegally? I would not be against it because I actually intend to take pics of each gun I own with a 3x5 card listing the model and serial number for my homeowners insurance in case of theft. Also for proof to police that I did indeed own those guns and have been reported stolen in the event of their use in a murder. I also feel that each time a gun is purchased from an individual, the purchaser would pay a nominal fee, say $10 for the transfer thru a dealer. Pain in the ass... a little bit for sure. But you have to do this with handguns now any way. I feel that if this were to be implemented that, over time, it very well Could have an effect on reducing the number of senseless killings that go on in this country every day. Like I said elsewhere, even the sound minded individual who goes wacko because his wife left him for another man or a similar situation can never be foreseen or prevented. But if we could make a major decrease, over time, in the reckless acts of drive by shootings and house shootings, like where the 2 yo child was killed in his grammas arms when thugs shot through the front door of a house in Atlanta I'm all for it. I'm all in favor of trying to stop the day by day senseless acts of murder on people all over this country and if a well thought out plan that included registering my guns would help... I'm all for it.

putting on a glove my hand slipped and i punched myself in the face hate when that happens

So glad there is such a united concern with the people and this country. Im sure glad you find it humourous enough to find the need to start a thread that effects ALL americans in such a manner. Apparently you have zero concern of how deeply this disturbs alot of us with him being relelected. Its obvious there is nothing to turn back time to fix the mistakes but one thing that does need to be addressed is uniting the people in this country. And this is a sure sad way to start off on a new page with a thread that tweeks the short hairs on so many people. I have zero faith in this president as his track record speaks for himself, but the least we can do is try to be optomistic, hope an pray for the change we were promised in 2008 and stand together as citizens of this country and stop the rediculous seperation, selfish bashing of others opinions, racism, for gods sake we are not a bunch of crazed cavemen. We are AMERICANS how about we all start acting like one and treat each other with respect we all deserve, move forward, work together, and show the world and most of all our children we can all prevail together. Its time to move on, grow up a little and respect each other. I know this election has weighed heavily on everyone myself included. I have many concerns and many fears moving forward for the next 4 years but damn it I refuse to let this eat at my everyday thoughts from here on out. It has greatly effected my attitude, my finances, the fear for my kids future, everything. There are many many people that feel the same way. Lets stick together from here on out shall we and stop the BS?

This may be one of the bucks that I am the proudest of taking. Sometimes it is just a lucky day or something but I feel I really earned this buck. It has been my worst bow season ever for deer sightings. I have been on stand during legal hours a total of 80 hours this season with 8 deer sightings. 1 deer for 10 hours is a very bad ratio I am usually 3 times that average. That being said I have been a bit discouraged with the activity. But I have been dragging my butt out every possible day. I think Zemmer18 from this site said once it is my persistence that pays off in the end. This week has been really cold and the sightings have picked up slightly. I actually passed a little 3 point at 30 yards yesterday, about the fourth passed 1.5 year old this season. It was very tempting considering I really do hunt for the meat. My family loves it and the freezer is scary low! I have been optimistic that the bucks had to start moving sooner or later. So on to the hunt. This morning was a frosty 27 degrees with a heavy frost covering the ground. I headed into my ladder stand behind the house and was set up by 6 am. It was very quiet all morning and I had not heard or seen anything. At 8:15 am I catch movement out front and see a deer crossing from my right to left about 80 yards out. Seeing that it is a nice buck but not working towards me I grab the doe can and give a couple calls. He stops but not really interested continues but does turn a little left. He cuts enough to get at 40 yards broadside which is my max range. He is at a small opening and I draw back and kind of bent over to line up with the hole and just tell myself this is not a good shot and let off. He then turns right and is headed out directly away from me. I grab the grunt tube and give it a couple blows and nothing, crap! Now what? He is at 70 yards…80 yards and going. I give a snort wheeze call with my mouth and he stops on a dime. I do it again and he spins 180 and back at me. He angles a little left and goes right through a lane but he is quartering to me. Then he turns and comes straight at me and now stops facing me at 12 yards. He turns a bit each way and actually gets broadside and looks away. Yea I start to draw and he snaps his head right back around! Oh cruds I am now pulled back like 3 inches and stuck. I start shaking, the bow starts shaking, my eyes are popping outa my head. I am thinking this is it he is going to bust me and be gone. After what seems like forever he turns away and I can let down, no way I could pull it then. He turns and starts walking away quartering away perfectly. I pull back and put the pin on the spot, double check pin so we do not repeat the miss I had two weeks ago!, and let it fly hitting perfect half way back. The arrow stopped on the far shoulder. He takes off and circles up and I see him go nose diving then summersault crash. He went about 70 yards. The whole deal took like 8 minutes and was extremely intense. I had to sit down until the shakes went away!! Got him dragged out and cleaned up he hit the scales at 160 pounds dressed. He will make some nice meals. He is a 9 point but I think most of the 9th point broke off when he flipped.

TC Icon .308, Zeiss Conquest Scope (3 x 9), 165 grain Nosler Trophy Grade Ballsitic Tips... Broke her in with a couple of nuisance permit does...

Since we already have registration for handguns I guess the original question was about long-guns. Well, I just want to point out that Canada experimented with that fiasco and have finally been forced to scrap the whole idea as impractical. But what the heck, I can see another nice bureaucracy created to handle that mass of ever-changing data. It's all paid for with government money, so it's free .... right? Sure .... let's put another bunch of people on the payroll doing worthless busy-work. Just another place for crazy errors and snafus and hardships for law abiding gun owners. It kind of reminds me of the time when I received a parking ticket from NYC when I had never even been to NYC. Yup, they had the make, model, year and license number right. Yeah, that was a pain to straighten out, but just imagine if that nonsense had involved a gun used in a homicide. Chances would be that I would be taken away in cuffs and then made to try to straighten it out. You people that want the government involved in every facet of your lives ought to take stock in just how deeply they already are interlaced in your daily activities. But then what the heck, it's just one more tiny inconvenience, right? And we have already seen how effective pistol registration is (apply a little sarcasm there). That burdensome mass of data can be undone (and routinely is), with a small dremmel tool equipped with a grinding stone.

That would bea huge mistake, I would hardly walk the ground at all knowing he is alive and resident, the less pressure the better chance he remains on the ground and you get a shot, hunt the permitmeter be patient and wait your chance otherwise you risk bumping him to neighboring ground and never seeing him. A mega buck like that will not tolerate much pressure at all.

How many lives have been saved by car registration? ZERO. On average, over 30,000 people get killed in cars every year. Dammit, I think we might consider banning certain makes! Noone said that the point of registering cars is to save lives. The system of car registration was being used as an example. Not the reason. The point of gun registration would be to establish a papertrail of ownership and ensure that the after-market sales maintain the trail.

I am certainly glad you didn't live back in the 1700's Elmo. We would be drinking tea instead of coffee...lol

You mean kinda like the cheap computer registration of my Truck...lol

I live in the city of New York....all my guns are already registered so I guess it won't bother me none. They don't need to take them away from me by force. All they have to do is make them illegal and I'll turn them in. Yes, I'm a very pro-guns but there are a few things I enjoy more than guns not the least of which are getting married, having children, being there for them, and watching them grow up. I don't see it as being a coward but rather being selfless and a realist. I unfortunately have so many family that depends on me that if I have to give up my guns so I can continue to be there for them then that is what I must do. Bottom line is the true fight is to keeping gun ownership legal. Registered or not does not make that much of an impact.

I have dozed off on a couple of occasions.

It’s my civic duty to obey the government and register my firearms if asked, but unfortunately my canoe overturned this pasted Tuesday night and all my guns sank to the bottom of river. I don’t own any weapon any longer... Learned this one from my Canadian friends a decade or so ago

Well, I did wear Burt's hunting coat and back tag that he left at the cabin, so if we were stopped, they'd think I was Burt.

you guys are missing the point....if criminalls want guns they will get them how many guns are stolen every year??? all the laws in the world cannot stop a theif laws only effect legale gun owners...period NY's 20 million doller finger print law has never helped put 1 single criminall in jail....but we legal gun owners still have to deal with it

I would have no issue with registering them. In fact, if you bought a gun thru a gun shop within the last couple of decades they already ARE registered. Yeah, I know the story where some will say that background checks are NOT registration, but that is pretty much BS. The IRS could even find out who owns what. Heck, they have the right to audit any tax paying business, so how hard would it be for them to look thru gun dealers invoices where name of purchaser is on it along with the make and serial number of the gun sold? It's elementary accounting really. Of course this is something that the paranoid type would never realize by themselves, so they keep thinking that a true registration system is the beginning of the end for them. Just shows how dumb some people can be.

I've seen more deer every sit up until the third week of October, now it's dead! Frustrated to say the least, but still hard at it

Yada yada yada. Online forum. Get over it.

To take it even further into paranoia; How many of you wipe or clean the washer and dryer before doing hunting gear?

Nice looking deer!

I was definetly born into it. I remember as far back as I can being a little guy watchin my Dad and Granpa and Uncle get ready and plan for the opener every year. And when I turned 14 my Dad let me tag along for 2 years until I was 16 and go with a gun. Man those first couple years I missed a LOT of deer!! I have missed only one opening morning in 29 years and that was because I filled my bow tag one year on a big buck the night before the opener and back then you had to go get your next tag. It was and is a way of life for me and my Grandpa was the same way. He actually taught my city slicker Dad to hunt when he married his daughter my Mom. I could listen for hours to their stories of deer camp and hunting back in the days in the Adirondacks. Back when my Granpa was still alive and we went up north to hunt opening weekend every year at camp. We would wake up to bacon frying every morning. We would hunt a morning watch in the mountains and then maybe some still hunting. Later in the season we would do the old fashioned deer drives. Man the history of some of those!! Good times, and I am just starting to get to share em with my 10 year old boy. It gets no better than all this!

I've been at it for close to 40 years and still remember pulling the trigger on my first deer ! Then many years later with my son on our first (and his first) hunt together a nice buck runs under my tree stand and I let him go because he's running straight towards where my son is sitting ! A moment later "Bang" and then my son yells out "F@#* Yeah" and then "Hey Pops come see what I got " ! Ya just cant buy that experience !

I would not put my face on camera to say "Look how dumb i am" lol

7S was crazy today. Hunted all day. Saw over 20 deer all times of the day. Two really nice bucks that were with does and would just not come in. Saw fights, 4 bucks chasing one doe, grunting, bleating. Only shots were with button bucks and spikes. Tough to see that many deer and not get an arrow off.

Here's the finished product.

Wut gunz?

Beware of what you write, they ARE watching! Hmmm..yes, I would!

Well , she got to look at her mirror purchase and see someone stupid !

Bought a used tree climbing stand , didnt bother too learn how to use it , didnt bother to find a good tree before opening day .... go in the woods opening day at oh dark thirty picked a tree (unfortunately the kind that has bark peeling off) make it up about 30 feet , turn around search for strap in , cant find it , stay still wait till sun comes up , look down see strap in on ground , spend 3 hours nervous as hell , sold climbing tree stand bought ladder stand !

I cant believe it either virgil! I mean I was smashing the horns together! I am definitly getting this one mounted and officially scored.

Me either. Its pretty sad that many of us vote one way or the other just to vote AGAINST someone. We should be voting FOR someone. Unfortunately, there arent many good ones left to vote FOR.

YET. He has no worries about trying to run again. Watch the agenda now. I am thinking you live under the rock.

Season has been open now for 36 days. I've been out 33 times! Believe me, I've been trying!!

i counted 14. had to pause the video a few times in certain spots to get a good count though

I have not missed a deer season in over 50 years (with almost all of those years being both a gun and bow hunter), and still do not understand what it is that makes an otherwise normal person climb a nearly mile long hill, and stand in the cold for hours, waiting to kill a deer. Also, consider the thousands of dollars that I have spent over the years, and the hours of practice and reading and discussion. None of it really makes a whole lot of sense other than it is some instinctive predatory obsession that I have no real control over .... lol. And it's not just deer hunting that effects me that way. It extends to all kinds of hunting, fishing and for many years, trapping. I've tried explaning it all, and never have been able to do so to any kind of acceptable level.

Using the excuse of shooting any deer for meat is ridiculous. The prices of licenses and tages nowadays doesnt make hunting a cheap sport. So take the money you spend on all your hunting gear and licenses and go to the grocery store if you need meat that bad. Nobody has to feed thier family jsut from a seasons worth of deer hunting. On average the price for processing is$ 60.00+. Shooting a BB is personal choice, shooting a 4pt or 6pt is personal but dont complain that you've been hunting for 30yrs and never killed an 8pt or bigger. Even on small pieces of private property some management can be done, talk to your neighbor maybe you can even implement a 6pt rule. NY has the potential for bigger deer its the hunters that dont allow it to happen.

Guns have been loaded since storm hit... 9mm is always close to me. I'm not getting caught with my pants down...

Get well soon. (send me your tags)

Thursday - October 11th Man - I had the craziest day at work but I did get out on time (4:30pm) only to run into heavy construction traffic on the way to the stand. Just my luck I guess. Anyways, I did get out to the stand by 5:15pm tonight. Stopped by the trail cam and pulled the card. Got in the stand and popped it into my daughters camera and I get the dreaded (Card is not Formatted error). Story of how my day has gone. Just as things couldn't get any worse, I can hear the cadence of footstps in the leaves. Things are looking up and as I look up in the direction of the sound, there is one, no two, wait a second three, holy crap its four deer, all does. Yup you guessed correct too, I was in the lower ladder stand and they all walked within 10 yards of the new ladder that I haven't sat in yet. WTH is my problem. I sat for a whole 20 minutes before I saw a deer tonight. I satyed until 6:55pm tonight as it was clear and cool but no other deer sighted. So the day was bad, then got wayy better in the stand, and then went to the lowest of lows tonight. Our dog Smokie who turned 14 in March has had bone cancer for a few years now.She has not been doing well the last week or so and has been disoriented when she gets up and uses all her eneergy to go outside to the bathroom. I took her out tonight at 9pm and she went pee and then I carried her up the stairs because she was having issues with her back legs and was wobbly. I laid her down and 2 minutes later she is whining and that was the end. My wife laid by her the whole time sobbing and I had to wake the kids to tell them to come say goodbye. What a shitty night. I am skipping my Friday evening hunt so I can dig a hole up at my inlaws where our other dog is buried. RIP Smokie