beachpeaz Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 While I am sure some people may take beer to the stand, I suspect many of the cans found were probably consumed either by non-hunters, or at times not hunting. Not justifying or condoning anything, but I think alot of people are telling themselves a story (ladder of inference) because they are equating to finding beer cans around a stand or in the woods as factual that it was drank while someone was hunting. I am sure alot of these beers were probably drank by kids who found the stand, or kids who camped out in the summer, etc. Or, they could be beers drank by the hunters during non-hunting times, whether it be after some stand work, etc. It doesn't excuse the piss poor action of leaving it around, but I suspect a big portion of the beer cans found are not by hunters. Look at the beer brands, too. Many times they'll be cheaper brands - which I would guess is likely from teens. I see alot of GL, PBR, and basic colored water brands. I've found beer cans around my stand before, and 6 mos. later found out it was a younger cousin who had been entertaining a young lady and they parked the truck and had a small bonfire in the field. They walked around the woods a bit and hung around my stand and tossed the cans. They got a talking to for leaving the trash, but it certainly is alot more plausible than me drinking them while on stand because that most certainly won't happen. As stupid as it sounds, i think I am more bothered by the litering than the thought of someone hunting and drinking. Probably because I agree with you in that MOST (or at least i would like to think so) of the beer cans are not from people carryind a loaded gun. Unfortunately, it would be naive to think that people don't do this though. I personally know of someone who drinks and hunts. I make sure I am not within 10 miles of him while i am hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Most of what I find in the woods have nothing to do with booze. Probably the most numerous are candy bar wrappers, and snack bags and wrappings. And then there are those zip-lock sandwich bags. And then soft-drink or water bottles. Things that nobody had any problem carrying in, but for some reason have a real problem figuring out how to carry them back out even with the contents disposed of. Oh and by the way, there seems to be a lot more of that crap along the bike and hiking trails than by hunters stand areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfdeputy2 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Doc here are two balloons I found on my last shed hunt. I swear my spot must be under some main flight path for these things , right where they start to drop. I find some each year, the ones caught in branches you can see from a long ways off, at first I often think it's a person in the woods," hey there's someone in blue over there ..... Am I the only one who noticed in the first pic Larry is either a nice Buck or he brings a deer mount with him? looks like a rack in the pic then I saw the shadow Carry In Carry out I also bring trash bags with me & pick up trash on the way out of my hunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I see it now, haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 He Larry.....you have some questions to answer my friend....lol. Do you ride a deer in the woods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh and by the way, there seems to be a lot more of that crap along the bike and hiking trails than by hunters stand areas. Hunters .... the original (and seemingly the only) caretakers of the woods ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 people of all walks of life leave cans and trash in the woods. doesn't make sense and very poor thing to do. we do an annual highway clean up near tomhanock reservoir every year and it's unreal the trash that comes from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooly Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hunters .... the original (and seemingly the only) caretakers of the woods ! Lol- yeah, I'm reminded of that every time I find a pair of those long blaze orange field dressing gloves..., or scent wicks and canisters..., or "crappy socks" around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Lol- yeah, I'm reminded of that every time I find a pair of those long blaze orange field dressing gloves..., or scent wicks and canisters..., or "crappy socks" around here. LOL .... I hear ya ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Gun hunters (period). Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Yeah I had to leave a pair of boxer briefs behind this year, forgot my tp and I was a long ways from the road, I at least covered the mess with a large rock to prevent others from stumbling near them since it was state land! But I also grab what garbage I can on the way out of the woods hunting or not. Edited April 21, 2015 by Hock3y24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't know what apalls me more, the total lack of respect for our wildeness and complete ignornace of people who toss their beer cans in the woods OR the fact that people think it is ok to consume alcohol while they are hunting with a deadly weapon! I shed hunted for about 6 hours yesterday and came across no less than 50 beer cans in the woods. I came across a tree stand that had 12-15 laying around at the base of it. People disgust me.....and scare me.....that they would even fathom drinking and shooting. I can walk deep into any set of woods and always rely on fiding at least 1 beer can. Crazy. Done venting! Where you near a snowmobile trail? I had the pup out the other day for some mud fun and walked a snowmobile trail with him and i ran out of pockets to carry beer cans out with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Where you near a snowmobile trail? I had the pup out the other day for some mud fun and walked a snowmobile trail with him and i ran out of pockets to carry beer cans out with. No, in the middle of the stinkin woods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Man we are a landing zone for every @#$#%$@ Mylar balloon in the county and those stinking %$@$@ hot air paper balloons...hey ppl they have metal rings!!! and helium latex balloons...the beer and red cans are multiplying in the culvert ditch and I made the town remove the gym equipment plugging the culvert opening on our lower property..I draw the line...pigs pigs pigs..Yep I do not use those orange "arm " gloves yet they magically appear in my woods every year...hhhmmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 I am surprised that someone isn't all over the Mylar balloon issue. For how sensative the EPA is now days (most of it total politcal BS), you would think having these things littering the world and NEVER biodegrating, should be an issue. 1,000,000 years from now, some advance race is going to find human skeletons, living cockroaches and f'n mylar ballons....lmao. Not to mention they are a major fire hazard when they get hung up on power lines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Man we are a landing zone for every @#$#%$@ Mylar balloon in the county and those stinking %$@$@ hot air paper balloons...hey ppl they have metal rings!!! and helium latex balloons...the beer and red cans are multiplying in the culvert ditch and I made the town remove the gym equipment plugging the culvert opening on our lower property..I draw the line...pigs pigs pigs..Yep I do not use those orange "arm " gloves yet they magically appear in my woods every year...hhhmmmm Downwind from one of the lakes? You always see people launching the chinese lantern deals. Speaking of the lakes, I can only Imagine the amount of trash at the bottom of them. Between fireworks (ever clean your yard up after shooting a whole bunch of them off?), boaters, flooding washing stuff in there, etc it has to be crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Track Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I just don't understand why people don't carry out their trash. You could carry it in, its lighter now that it is empty, and can be crushed to make it easier to pack out. When I camp, the spot is cleaner than when I got there. Finding someone else's spent brass does leave a marker on a spot to watch for some future hunting action, but they should clean up after themselves. Those bright red and yellow ones are very easy to spot. I can understand missing ones that are black or certain shades of green. When they are just laying right in the open on a clear stony or short grass trail/road, what could be their excuse? Found a thong once, not kind you wear on your feet. So someone had some other recreation going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 driving around these past few weekends, I've come to the conclusion that Bud Light drinkers pollute at a much higher ration than drinkers of other brands.....about 10:1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Light beer , tastes kinda like water only not as flavorful ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 driving around these past few weekends, I've come to the conclusion that Bud Light drinkers pollute at a much higher ration than drinkers of other brands.....about 10:1 I think, although you were probably kidding, there is some science behind that. I would assume the lower the income, the cheaper the beer people drink (positively correlated). I would then assume the cheaper the beer, the lower the standards of that person (positively correlated). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Walked my dog the other day down my road at the cabin. Found plenty of beer cans, plastic cups and 2 diapers all rolled up on the side of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I always end up packing out more than my own. Areas where people target shoot are crazy. Fisherpeeps are even worse! Look at the shores of our streams and rivers jeesh! Very disturbing to me especially from people who hunt and fish and enjoy the outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think, although you were probably kidding, there is some science behind that. I would assume the lower the income, the cheaper the beer people drink (positively correlated). I would then assume the cheaper the beer, the lower the standards of that person (positively correlated). I heard your assumption now let me hear the "science" that correlates poorer people to trash pollution. Let me tell you how i see it. I lived in Red Hook Brooklyn growing up, right near the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and I belonged to Scout Troop 265. Our troop would organize and go clean up trash around the Battery Tunnel. My personal experience is that moneyed people throwing trash out of the car windows caused most of the trash we picked up. I would even venture to say the more expensive the car the more trash it spewed. I saw this with my own eyes. They care not for the neighborhood they traveled through and showed it with their contempt and trash. My personal belief is that a certain percentage of the population is going to be scumbags regardless of weather they have money or not. This percentage is spread across all wage levels, religions, creeds and political ideologies. All things being equal I believe no one would argue that money is an enabler. The more money you have the more you can throw away. http://www.wineaccess.com/file/store/totalwine/beer-corridorwine.pdf The PDF will show that Bud Light is not the cheapest beer that can be had and is in fact the more expensive of the beers with only 2 beers more expensive that Bud light. Thinking is hard, blaming the poor is easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 I heard your assumption now let me hear the "science" that correlates poorer people to trash pollution. Let me tell you how i see it. I lived in Red Hook Brooklyn growing up, right near the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and I belonged to Scout Troop 265. Our troop would organize and go clean up trash around the Battery Tunnel. My personal experience is that moneyed people throwing trash out of the car windows caused most of the trash we picked up. I would even venture to say the more expensive the car the more trash it spewed. I saw this with my own eyes. They care not for the neighborhood they traveled through and showed it with their contempt and trash. My personal belief is that a certain percentage of the population is going to be scumbags regardless of weather they have money or not. This percentage is spread across all wage levels, religions, creeds and political ideologies. All things being equal I believe no one would argue that money is an enabler. The more money you have the more you can throw away. http://www.wineaccess.com/file/store/totalwine/beer-corridorwine.pdf The PDF will show that Bud Light is not the cheapest beer that can be had and is in fact the more expensive of the beers with only 2 beers more expensive that Bud light. Thinking is hard, blaming the poor is easy. You must be a Bud Light drinker. My apologies to you (more so that you like Bud Light). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 You must be a Bud Light drinker. My apologies to you (more so that you like Bud Light). Never touch the stuff, strictly a Boone's Farm Strawberry Ripple drinker. But I appreciate the science you offered in your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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