RangerClay Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm trying to decide what to use because my 100gr. Slick Tricks won't fly true. Are you using crossbow heads or are you using regular archery broadheads? What are you having luck with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntscreek Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm using NAP 100gr I bought from Midway USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Huntscreek said: I'm using NAP 100gr I bought from Midway USA. Which one from NAP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I own neither but curious and looked it up. Here's an interesting reply I found Matt357: The word Archery includes crossbows so yes you can use regular BH's for crossbows, I use Slick Tricks, Magnums 100 grain and have for both vertical and crossbows with phenominal success, just returned from Africa and took 8 animals all one shot kills with my Crossbow using the Slick Tricks. I would stsy away from any Mechanical that doesn't have a blade retention system. The word Crossbow on BH is strictly a marketing ploy so that you buy extras even Slick Tricks are advertised that way and guess what? I compared a regular 125 grain slick trick to a 125 grain Crossbow one, same lenght, same blades, same ferrule thickness and both weighed 125 grains and flew the same out of a Crossbow. You can use the BH 's on Crossbows with confidence IMO. Cactus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsNbows Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Been using Ramcat 100's but also testing a new, one piece head called Tooth of the Arrow (or some such weird name). They fly great with my mid-speed (332fps) bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Excalibur boltcutters (150 gr), fly exactly the same as the excel 150 gr field points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntscreek Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 NAP Thunderhead fixed blade SS Sent from my XT830C using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 NAP Spitfire Maxx 100gr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Sorry, but there's no "one size fits all" answer for the OP's question! Fixed blade BHs are no different for compound bows than when used on Xbows. Just might take a little more tweaking when going from field tip to BH. Obviously, that's not a huge time consuming endeavor since Xbows use a scope and can be shot from a rest. Most of the same principles apply to Xbows that are used in selecting arrow/BH combinations for vertical bow, although to a smaller degree. Mechanical BHs are a completely different story with Xbows exerting ~3X the initial inertia (physic's term??) upon the arrow/bolt than do compound bows. Possibly making some mechanical BHs prematurely deploy and causing erratic bolt flight or trajectory. Not to mention penetration issues if the target is actually hit. Clearly there's a lot of variation in Xbows, type, design, draw wgt, fps, blah, blah. All the little quirks of using mechanical BHs can be expected for ALL bows! This makes suggesting a single mechanical BH impossible for every Xbow. I'm not one to try and reinvent the wheel, so I use what my Xbow mfger suggests, NAP Spitfire. They've done all the testing in the lab and out in the field, so why should I? Some have had issues with these BHs, I haven't as of yet. May get crucified for this suggestion, but there are other great, strictly Xbow forums where the members have many more years of hunting experience with Xbows than we do here in NYS. All their equipment reviews &/or discussions reflect this!!! If you venture there, you'll see reviews &/or discussions than are more specific to Xbow models and BHs combos the members have experienced using. Sorry Burmjohn - I love huntingny.com, but...! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsNbows Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Good point. Check Crossbow Nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyhunter1203 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'm using the 3 blade muzzy fixed blade for crossbows with trocar tip and they fly just as well as my field points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 My plan was to remove my NAP killzones from my arrows and put them on my bolts in a couple weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle rider Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 NAP Shockwave XBow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm going to agree with above that crozzbow specific mechanicals are MORE than just a marketing ploy. Think about it...the arrow is accelerating from a dead stop to 300+ FPS in 16" to 18" of distance compared to a compound bow in which the arrow accelerates (often to a lower velocity) over 28" or so. There is much more force exerted on the arrow and broadhead. FWIW, I'm using the prepackaged Rage "Simply Lethal" arrow/broadhead setup out of a Wicked Ridge Invader. I can't tell you about they're hunting effectiveness yet, but they group well with field points. They do seem to shoot low at 40yd though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 NAP FOC broadheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 NAP Slingblades. 100 gr. 1 and 7/8 inch cut. They fly true and hit where the field points hit. Can't wait to see how they work on deer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 NAP Killzones. Did a number on the doe I got on the 15th so I have confidence it'll do well on a buck if I get a shot at one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieNY Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) RangerClay- check your owner's manual on your crossbow and see what the minimum finished bolt weight (bolt with broadhead) is recommended by the manufacturer. I have a TenPoint crossbow and the manufacturer recommends a minimum finished bolt weight of at least 420 grains. I am shooting 20" carbon bolts with 125 gr. standard Slick Tricks and they are unbelievably accurate and shoot right to point of aim. The finished weight on them is 427 grains. I did try some 100 gr. broadheads on the same bolts and they shot terrible. It may be as simple as using a higher weight broadhead to solve your problem. See what your manufacturer recommends- no one can give you better advice and be sure and weigh your finished bolt to be sure you are above the minimum recommended weight. www.valoroutdoors.com Edited November 2, 2016 by CharlieNY Add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyslowhand Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 ^^^..... and the mfger designed each Xbow's scope multi-range dots/X-hairs with a certain bolt/BH weight combo. Variations in shots at yardages from (closer-further) the zeroing yardage will be influenced by going heavier or lighter. There's also a bit of physics involved with all the inertia created when the trigger is pulled and the ~180# of stored energy is suddenly expelled. You want most of that energy dissipated into the bolt and not completely absorbed by the Xbow itself. Lighter bolts may not do this efficiently and create undue wear to the Xbow parts. They may shoot fine, but eventually something has to give!!! Too much science, go by what your Xbow mfger suggests, if they are a reputable mfger. I went with Aluminum bolts and a 100gr BH, although sacrificing ~25FPS of advertised performance. A compromise! Bulls-eyes at 20->50yrd shots. Not that I'd shot 50yrds, simply a confidence builder knowing the X-hairs/dots are where bolt will impact target or game at varying yardages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohunt10820 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 On 10/11/2016 at 1:03 PM, nyhunter1203 said: I'm using the 3 blade muzzy fixed blade for crossbows with trocar tip and they fly just as well as my field points Same here, fly like practice points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 On 10/26/2016 at 3:46 PM, grampy said: NAP Slingblades. 100 gr. 1 and 7/8 inch cut. They fly true and hit where the field points hit. Can't wait to see how they work on deer! Buddy hit 2 deer with these and has 2 kills with his vertical bow. needless to say they are sharper than rage, more simple, and cheap! i made the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Since I havn't had a shot at a deer with the crossbow I guess I would quote someone by saying , "at this point , what difference does it make" ! First Light suggested the Carbon Express Torrid SS expandables . That's what I have to try out . Hopefully this morning will be the day . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 and now i can confirm the sling blade will stay in my quiver. Took 2 does with them this morning and they worked EXCELLEnt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I use the same as my bow NAP spitfire 100 grain never let me down and fly almost exactly the same as a 100 grain field point been 15 plus years best as I can remember .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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