Nomad Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) This guy thought he know what he was doing , till his chargers and batteries for his cord less tools started on fire this morning ..... Couple issue with back feeding not mentioned yet. When you plug it into a wall you're running half your house on 12 wire or even 14 . So when the daughter uses a hairdryer and the Mrs uses the microwave that can lead to visits from us . Also generators produce " dirty power" so your computers and high end TV may get fried . Edited March 10, 2017 by Larry302 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkhunter1590 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 This guy thought he know what he was doing , till his chargers and batteries for his cord less tools started on fire this morning ..... Couple issue with back feeding not mentioned yet. When you plug it into a wall you're running half your house on 12 wire or even 14 . So when the daughter uses a hairdryer and the Mrs uses the microwave that can lead to visits from us . Also generators produce " dirty power" so your computers and high end TV may get fried . Damn! I'm no electrician by any means. But even I know stuff like that is a no no. Some one won the stupid award for today lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Nearly thirty hours powerless. We had a great time reverting back to a more suttle way of living. A big Thank You to National grid for the help. My hats off to the road crews and all they do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just talked to RGE. Apparently most of the work to date has been cleaning to start the repair process. Big meeting this afternoon to set a plan for repair. She couldn't advise formally, but said unlikely that service will be back up today, maybe over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Latest update for my street: Tomorrow at 11pm. Wtf. At this point I have no choice but to backfeed every few hours to run my furnace, it's going to be in the teensSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 So without endorsing this idea can you tell me if this is the safest way to do it? I've shut off the Main and all breakers but the furnace and ran a chord to an outlet in my garage where it won't be bumped out by anything or anyone I do have a guy coming to put in an auxiliary panel for my generator but that won't be until next week at the earliest. He's going to do mine and two other neighbors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: Latest update for my street: Tomorrow at 11pm. Wtf. At this point I have no choice but to backfeed every few hours to run my furnace, it's going to be in the teens Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I got a couple heater buddies you can borrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Word of caution everyone. If you choose to back feed your house with a generator make sure you turn off your main breaker. If you don't you are feeding power out of your house and can be energizing a line that the utility worker believe is not hot. Be smart, it can be a deadly action if you aren't 100% sure about what you are doing. Edited March 10, 2017 by Culvercreek hunt club 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I have a 7500 generator that anyone who needs it can borrow. I will even drive halfway to meet. Edited March 10, 2017 by grampy 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 33 minutes ago, Jeremy K said: I got a couple heater buddies you can borrow Thank you I appreciate that! I think we are alright though. Im about to cook a pizza over charcoal, old school lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just finished running to three stores to find plug ends to use the generator for the house and my son calls. Power on. Yay! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 TCIII I'm sure you'll be fine, tons of guys do,that but there are risks . The wiring to your wall socket is not meant to carry the load for half your house which is why most back feed ,because it runs half your box , but with it all shut down but the furnace you should be ok . I'm no electrician , I've just seen a lot of bad hack jobs. like this next guy, we just got back from . He called when smoke stared coming from his over head light . He back feed his panel , said he only had one breaker on . " which one we asked ?" , " that one, it's off now " , " ok great , but those three are still on!" , " oh .... " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said: So without endorsing this idea can you tell me if this is the safest way to do it? I've shut off the Main and all breakers but the furnace and ran a chord to an outlet in my garage where it won't be bumped out by anything or anyone I do have a guy coming to put in an auxiliary panel for my generator but that won't be until next week at the earliest. He's going to do mine and two other neighbors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk How is the power going to get from your garage outlet to your furnace with all your breakers turned off? Have you checked to see if your furnace is hardwired or plugs into an outlet? Like Larry said ,it may work, not recommended . You will have to have main breaker off.. Breaker on that you are backfeeding . and the furnace breaker on This assumes that your garage outlet is feeding the same 1/2 panel that the furnace uses. Edited March 10, 2017 by ncountry More info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 How is the power going to get from your garage outlet to your furnace with all your breakers turned off? Have you checked to see if your furnace is hardwired or plugs into an outlet?All are off with the exception of the furnace breaker but I see what you mean, the breaker the outlet is on needs to be open as well. Furnace is hard wired Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I talked to 2 electricians that said backfeeding is fine. Just turn off the main. But I never got that far thankfully. I too was going to run furnace and some lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Had to remove a sign on South Slocum and hadn't realized they were out of power . Same on Clevenger road . So many people south of Rt 104 without power and no telling when they will get it back . A lot of generators running in those areas . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I talked to 2 electricians that said backfeeding is fine. Just turn off the main. But I never got that far thankfully. I too was going to run furnace and some lights. Yes but Larry302 made an incredibly important point above, if that plug comes out of the wall it's hot and could kill you. Plug it in an outlet that's out of trafficSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: Yes but Larry302 made an incredibly important point above, if that plug comes out of the wall it's hot and could kill you. Plug it in an outlet that's out of traffic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Very true. Edited March 10, 2017 by moog5050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hope everybody gets up and running soon!!! http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/noreaster-may-bury-mid-atlantic-new-england-with-heavy-snow-next-week/70001075 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 In 2006 I pulled apart the switch to my furnace and wired a male end plug to it. Then I just plugged in my extension cord to the generator. Main is off but doesn't matter at that point anyway........the power coming in to the switch is disconnected. Then I had one other extension cord with a pigtail on it that fed a couple lights/sump pump/ freezer and fridge. Worked real nice for 6 or 7 days. Now I have a second generator, a Honda EU2000 to ease the burden on the Honda EB 3000. I hope I never need them again! I did give the 2000 watt unit to a kid at work yesterday but his juice was back on by the time he got home from work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I've got a guy coming out nextWeek to get me setup right with a panelSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosifer Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, The_Real_TCIII said: I've got a guy coming out next Week to get me setup right with a panel Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk TCIII. Don't backfeed! Not worth it. When we had the big ice storm years ago, my neighbor came over and made a "pig tail" with the male end of a power strip wiring it directly to the furnace. We then plugged that male end to a heavy duty extension cord that was attached to a generator on the back porch. (Don't put the generator in the garage; CO2 risk. Put it on the back porch under an awning if you have one.) Zacher Electric installed my whole house generator for me after that experience. I got nice Kohler unit (12,000 kW, I think), more expensive and less "rated" power than others, but it is a very high quality one vs. a Generac, et al. I can run everything except that in the summer I can only run one of the two AC units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Can we swear on this forum or nah? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Can we swear on this forum or nah? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dude , that sucks !! Sorry man Good thing you weren't away for work though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Is it??Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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