Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I’ve been deer hunting for 37 years and have shot a lot of bucks with some being pretty good. I honestly am not sure I could keep it together long enough to execute a shot on a deer like that. That is freaking amazing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 WOW! WOW! WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I live in Campbell 15 mins from bath you would have thought I would have heard of this deer. Truly impressive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rob-c said: I live in Campbell 15 mins from bath you would have thought I would have heard of this deer. Truly impressive.. I only learned of his existence a few weeks ago. He was only found yesterday afternoon. Edited November 23, 2018 by WNY Bowhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, WNY Bowhunter said: I only learned of his existence a few weeks ago. Buck of a lifetime no doubt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphtm Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Did they weigh the deer before it was cut up ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, thphtm said: Did they weigh the deer before it was cut up ?. Idk if the meat was still edible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Looks as though he has some age on him. Lost quite a bit of weight compared to the trail cam pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapDistPatriot Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, WNY Bowhunter said: A friend of my cousin found this absolute monster laying dead in his backyard yesterday afternoon. This deer was a local legend in the Bath area and several locals were after him. The DEC was called and came to investigate, no signs of a bullet wound were found so they issued a salvage tag. He was rough scored at 200 - 204, just a truely impressive NY buck! Lord Have Mercy! Looks like mutant monster buck wins in the end, he must have died of old age. Not many guys with headgear like that get to pass in bovine hospice. Good for him he earned it! Edited November 23, 2018 by CapDistPatriot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, rob-c said: Buck of a lifetime no doubt.. Buck of a few THOUSAND lifetimes....Incredible... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 What a giant! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Buck of a few THOUSAND lifetimes....Incredible...And you let him walk opening day hoping for one more year. I hope you learned a lesson hereSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveboone Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Oh my! What a splendid animial. At least you found him, and now he will be remembered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 11/23/2018 at 8:57 AM, The_Real_TCIII said: I remember an Alsheimer video about how the rut can actually wear out a buck and kill it, I wonder if that’s what happened here? The wounded leg wouldn’t help. What a monster Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro good theory, but I've also heard that monsters like him rarely have to do any chasing or seeking. they just show up and mount. I'd think it'd be worth the time to skin him just to see what's underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Probably 10 years ago I watched (with only antlerless tags in my pocket) a giant of epic portions in the rut. I had three or four other bucks around me and one hot doe. The younger (an assumption of course) bucks just about crapped their drawers when the King showed up. He didn’t even partake in too much chasing, he just kind of cruised through......an unforgettable snowy November 13 day I’ll always remember. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Belo said: good theory, but I've also heard that monsters like him rarely have to do any chasing or seeking. they just show up and mount. I'd think it'd be worth the time to skin him just to see what's underneath. I have never heard that. Ive actually heard the opposite as well as that many deer that get to that age/size are actually more timid than most. Thats how they get old, by not putting themselves into a position to get beat up and worn out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, WNYBuckHunter said: I have never heard that. Ive actually heard the opposite as well as that many deer that get to that age/size are actually more timid than most. Thats how they get old, by not putting themselves into a position to get beat up and worn out. i've read a few articles (and of course this is subject to the herds dynamics) that say a big buck can more easily push out and intimidate his competition. So the 2.5's are doing most of the fighting and seeking for the harder to find, less defended doe. Also some pretty good research on why deer even grow antlers at all. Many think it's based on defense, when in actuality it's more about attraction. Bigger rack shows the doe he's worth exchanging dna with for her offspring. Kinda like the sports car and nice house haha. idk, both those idea have always made sense to me when reading about them in mags, books, podcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 11/23/2018 at 8:34 AM, landtracdeerhunter said: Smart boy; nocturnal as hell. That's how they get "big"; my friends. every nocturnal buck walks in the daylight somewhere. just not where it's convenient. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Belo said: i've read a few articles (and of course this is subject to the herds dynamics) that say a big buck can more easily push out and intimidate his competition. So the 2.5's are doing most of the fighting and seeking for the harder to find, less defended doe. Also some pretty good research on why deer even grow antlers at all. Many think it's based on defense, when in actuality it's more about attraction. Bigger rack shows the doe he's worth exchanging dna with for her offspring. Kinda like the sports car and nice house haha. idk, both those idea have always made sense to me when reading about them in mags, books, podcasts. there's a huge difference between a buck that's 5.5+ years old like the one originally posted and a 2.5 yr old. doe are submissive to whatever is around. they have to be. which is why they might be bred by more than one buck. like you could have twins with different dads. i'm with john in that a buck with a scrub rack might be more full of piss and fight to drive off other bucks off than one with a large rack. large racks are less common and reclusive because otherwise it wouldn't be alive. scrub racks have had a life that affords them to run around without a care in front of more hunters trying to fight and breed everything it can. even more so if it got the genetic card of a massive body with a scrub rack. if a buck has a scrub rack because it's just a runt, that's different. that's my take and experience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 it takes a lot of things to get a buck to 5.5+ yrs old out here. an extremely limited number of spots for different reasons it's much more likely. it's hard to imagine what things would be like if people didn't shoot anything for a handful of years. you could see what can grow what without us picking off the cream of the crop for antlers. it'd be all over the place with scrub and above average bucks but it'd probably still be insane. couldn't imagine what it'd be like if it were common place to see two fully mature 6.5 yr old bucks fighting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHornHunter Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 52 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: I have never heard that. Ive actually heard the opposite as well as that many deer that get to that age/size are actually more timid than most. Thats how they get old, by not putting themselves into a position to get beat up and worn out. I think that's especially true in highly pressured states like NY where deer have a PhD in hunter avoidance by the time they are 3. It's a different story if you go to the mid-west or some mid-south states like Texas or Oklahoma where bucks are allowed to mature and hunting pressure is less intense. There you can see mature bucks become more daylight active with age and they'll get smarter when it comes to the rut so they will often wait until they hear the tell tale signs of breeding such as a buck fight or tending grunts and then will sweep in and take the doe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, dbHunterNY said: every nocturnal buck walks in the daylight somewhere. just not where it's convenient. lol Oh I agree with your statement. The big ones tend to get clumsy, at this big size. Just have to be there for the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Belo said: i've read a few articles (and of course this is subject to the herds dynamics) that say a big buck can more easily push out and intimidate his competition. So the 2.5's are doing most of the fighting and seeking for the harder to find, less defended doe. Also some pretty good research on why deer even grow antlers at all. Many think it's based on defense, when in actuality it's more about attraction. Bigger rack shows the doe he's worth exchanging dna with for her offspring. Kinda like the sports car and nice house haha. idk, both those idea have always made sense to me when reading about them in mags, books, podcasts. Don't always believe everything written in books, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Few more pics. Officially net green scored 198 7/8... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I would hope the green score is a little conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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