Belo 6897 Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Southern Zone obviously. Discuss Edited December 6, 2018 by Belo Quote "Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching, even when the wrong thing is legal" -Aldo Leopold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreeneHunter 4257 Posted December 6, 2018 Would it include Crossbow ? (and so it begins) Quote Answer to No One ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biz-R-OWorld 20919 Posted December 6, 2018 Southern Zone obviously. DiscussNo because then I would need to a buy a MLSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LET EM GROW 2934 Posted December 6, 2018 No, unless by "Early Season" it is designed to be put in between archery and regular season.. then yes!. But not before archery season. I see no reason whatsover to put a early ML season in place ahead of archery season. Unless it was an aided season to help handicap, youths or elderly etc.. then by all means im on board! If it were to go ahead of Archery season, Id be totally against it. Unless there were good reasons im un aware of to justify.. Id gladly listen Otherwise i would think the hunters who are restricted to close range(archery hunters) deserve first chance... Not trying to sound greedy lol 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Four Season Whitetail's 2741 Posted December 6, 2018 No, unless by "Early Season" it is designed to be put in between archery and regular season.. then yes!. But not before archery season. I see no reason whatsover to put a early ML season in place ahead of archery season. Unless it was an aided season to help handicap, youths or elderly etc.. then by all means im on board! If it were to go ahead of Archery season, Id be totally against it. Unless there were good reasons im un aware of to justify.. Id gladly listen Otherwise i would think the hunters who are restricted to close range(archery hunters) deserve first chance... Not trying to sound greedy lol They won't do it to please any bow hunter or anyone else. They will do it because of the lack of the needed numbers of deer killed in an area. Thinking they care about any groups feelings are silly at best. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
landtracdeerhunter 2199 Posted December 6, 2018 Would the late Muzzleloader Season still be in place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culvercreek hunt club 9483 Posted December 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, LET EM GROW said: No, unless by "Early Season" it is designed to be put in between archery and regular season.. then yes!. But not before archery season. I see no reason whatsover to put a early ML season in place ahead of archery season. Unless it was an aided season to help handicap, youths or elderly etc.. then by all means im on board! If it were to go ahead of Archery season, Id be totally against it. Unless there were good reasons im un aware of to justify.. Id gladly listen Otherwise i would think the hunters who are restricted to close range(archery hunters) deserve first chance... Not trying to sound greedy lol I could see them doing it(and they have discussed it) to aid in deer number reduction in problem areas. I have mixed emotions. I do hunt the early ML in the northern zone and enjoy it. 1 Quote "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher "When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both.." - James Dale Davidson, National Taxpayers Union Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly 10182 Posted December 6, 2018 I'd be down with that! Just let me know what I can hunt with at what time of the season and I'll gladly give it a whirl. If I can be out of the woods before the December chill, I'm all for it! 2 Quote View my nature photos @ http://www.pbase.com/wooly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
landtracdeerhunter 2199 Posted December 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, wooly said: I'd be down with that! Just let me know what I can hunt with at what time of the season and I'll gladly give it a whirl. If I can be out of the woods before the December chill, I'm all for it! Part of the chill; is part of the fun, LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LET EM GROW 2934 Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Four Season Whitetail's said: They won't do it to please any bow hunter or anyone else. They will do it because of the lack of the needed numbers of deer killed in an area. Thinking they care about any groups feelings are silly at best. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree, If it passed and ML was the only weapon that can be used legally. I would obviously do what I had to do, to be able to hunt that season. As i would for Xbow, IF it had its own season. 1 hour ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: I could see them doing it(and they have discussed it) to aid in deer number reduction in problem areas. I have mixed emotions. I do hunt the early ML in the northern zone and enjoy it. I would enjoy it if it were to pass as well. But I absolutely love hunting with vertical archery equipment. And prefer it over every season.. If an early ML season were in consideration for these "high deer density areas", I could understand that. Edited December 6, 2018 by LET EM GROW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckmaster7600 8847 Posted December 6, 2018 I’m in, it’s already in place in the NZ.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_TCIII 18906 Posted December 6, 2018 Flintlock, hate it but wouldn’t be the worst thing. OtherwiseAbsolutely not. Our gun season isn’t long enough?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread -Mitch Hedberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belo 6897 Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, LET EM GROW said: No, unless by "Early Season" it is designed to be put in between archery and regular season.. then yes!. But not before archery season. I see no reason whatsover to put a early ML season in place ahead of archery season. Unless it was an aided season to help handicap, youths or elderly etc.. then by all means im on board! If it were to go ahead of Archery season, Id be totally against it. Unless there were good reasons im un aware of to justify.. Id gladly listen Otherwise i would think the hunters who are restricted to close range(archery hunters) deserve first chance... Not trying to sound greedy lol putting it before or during archery will sort of kill the "surprise" factor of archery season. Putting it right before gun opens will ruin some of the fun of opening day when the deer don't know what hit em with all the guns going off. just food for thought. 1 Quote "Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching, even when the wrong thing is legal" -Aldo Leopold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moho81 5628 Posted December 6, 2018 I think if it before archery season it would eventually kill archery season all together. I'm sure there would still be a season for it but the success rate would be so low bow hunters would gravitate to ML. Just my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncountry 1252 Posted December 6, 2018 If you enjoy bow hunting, no.. if you are just as happy with a gun then it's great.. In most areas I hunt the deer are totally different animals after the guns come out.. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Will_C 176 Posted December 6, 2018 I participate in the early muzzleloader season in Pa. because it is there. I wouldn't want to see one in NY. If the deer harvest needs to be increased, I would think that full inclusion for crossbows would be the first step. I am more of a gun hunter, but I enjoyed my first year with a crossbow. It was a peaceful feeling in the woods, I hope to more next year. Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef 7113 Posted December 7, 2018 How about a 1 week ml season or even flintlock that is the last week of August. Get us a shot at some velvet. It would also give the woods time to quiet down before bow. They could make a separate tag for it and even charge more for the chance at a velvet buck. I’m not really for it but just throwing something out that I wouldn’t be too pissed about Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LET EM GROW 2934 Posted December 7, 2018 17 hours ago, Belo said: putting it before or during archery will sort of kill the "surprise" factor of archery season. Putting it right before gun opens will ruin some of the fun of opening day when the deer don't know what hit em with all the guns going off. just food for thought. The same way it would mess with archers that have waited 300 days for opening day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYBuckHunter 11001 Posted December 7, 2018 I would support it ahead of archery season only if it was doe only, only in the WMUs where the population is too high, and it only stays in place until the population is down to where it needs to be. It should be a relatively short season (a week or 2 at the most) with a 1 week gap between when it ends and bow season begins. If thats not the case, then nope, I dont support it at all. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimboCNY 16 Posted December 7, 2018 no and I would throw muzzleloader to the back end in the northern zone. If it was flintlock I'd be fine with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daveboone 823 Posted December 8, 2018 We already have an early in the NT, but I don't think I would want one in the southern tier. Ample opportunity already, and wouldn't you rather hunt in the later muzzleloading season anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cas 154 Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Decades ago I lamented that there wasn't an early muzzle loading season in the southern zone, every year wishing for a change. That was back when it was round ball shooters only, no optics and "modern" guns where close to unheard of. If it were still like that I'd say... have one every few years like the olympics. So I voted no. Especially now days with our current laws and guns. Wanna make it a primitive flintlock only season once every 4-5 years if deer numbers allow, Mmmmaybe.... Edited December 8, 2018 by cas Quote Shooting an inline is like kissing your sister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cas 154 Posted December 8, 2018 ^ And to clarify, my desire isn't really about increasing my chances, but rather the ability to sped time in the woods with my muzzle loaders when it's warmer and potentially dryer. Quote Shooting an inline is like kissing your sister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtiscoPaul 1611 Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) No I’m down for Primitive Winter Season: Flintlock or recurve/longbow 12/26- 1/31 Edited December 9, 2018 by OtiscoPaul 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyslowhand 1204 Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Sure, an early primitive only ML season using any issued ML tag. IRC, this was discussed decades ago, but never materialized. Wish I could bookmark this thread for future reference. If you read between the lines a lot of members are showing their true colors - my season, my deer. Edited December 10, 2018 by nyslowhand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites